Trump is not the First President to Defy the Courts

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Nor was Abraham Lincoln. It is nothing new.


On May 25, 1861, federal troops arrested a Maryland planter, John Merryman, on suspicion that he was involved in a conspiracy as part of an armed secessionist group. Merryman was detained at Fort McHenry without a warrant. Merryman’s attorney petitioned the U.S. Circuit Court for Maryland, which Taney oversaw, for his client’s release.

On May 26, Taney issued a writ of habeas corpus and ordered General George Cadwalader, Fort McHenry’s commander, to appear in the circuit courtroom along with Merryman and to explain his reasons for detaining Merryman.

Cadwalader didn’t comply with the writ and instead sent a letter back to Taney on May 27 explaining that Lincoln had authorized military officers to suspend the writ when they felt there were public safety concerns. Taney then tried to notify Cadwalader that he was in contempt of court, but soldiers at Fort McHenry refused the notice.

However, Taney noted that he didn’t have the physical power to enforce the writ in this case because of the nature of the conflict at hand. “I have exercised all the power which the Constitution and laws confer on me, but that power has been resisted by a force too strong for me to overcome,” he said. But Taney did order that a copy of his opinion be sent directly to President Lincoln.


Rulings by federal judges are not enforceable suicide pacts. Lincoln acted as he did to prevent sabotage of the United States Army supply chains, and that took precedence over preventing a circuit judge's ruling from being ignored.
 
Nor was Abraham Lincoln. It is nothing new.


On May 25, 1861, federal troops arrested a Maryland planter, John Merryman, on suspicion that he was involved in a conspiracy as part of an armed secessionist group. Merryman was detained at Fort McHenry without a warrant. Merryman’s attorney petitioned the U.S. Circuit Court for Maryland, which Taney oversaw, for his client’s release.

On May 26, Taney issued a writ of habeas corpus and ordered General George Cadwalader, Fort McHenry’s commander, to appear in the circuit courtroom along with Merryman and to explain his reasons for detaining Merryman.

Cadwalader didn’t comply with the writ and instead sent a letter back to Taney on May 27 explaining that Lincoln had authorized military officers to suspend the writ when they felt there were public safety concerns. Taney then tried to notify Cadwalader that he was in contempt of court, but soldiers at Fort McHenry refused the notice.

However, Taney noted that he didn’t have the physical power to enforce the writ in this case because of the nature of the conflict at hand. “I have exercised all the power which the Constitution and laws confer on me, but that power has been resisted by a force too strong for me to overcome,” he said. But Taney did order that a copy of his opinion be sent directly to President Lincoln.


Rulings by federal judges are not enforceable suicide pacts. Lincoln acted as he did to prevent sabotage of the United States Army supply chains, and that took precedence over preventing a circuit judge's ruling from being ignored.
Going back to Lincoln and the Civil War?

Gawd...

you are in serious need of something

such a flaccid, weak attempt at a moral equivalency


and I doubt people who may comment here will visit and read the text over at: The Constitution Center
 
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We have an activist judiciary appointed by democrats to carry out democrat plans. They must be not only defied, by targeted for removal.

your posts are consistently


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Thread is about constitutional issues and you end up here with yet another inane rant
 
Nor was Abraham Lincoln. It is nothing new.


On May 25, 1861, federal troops arrested a Maryland planter, John Merryman, on suspicion that he was involved in a conspiracy as part of an armed secessionist group. Merryman was detained at Fort McHenry without a warrant. Merryman’s attorney petitioned the U.S. Circuit Court for Maryland, which Taney oversaw, for his client’s release.

On May 26, Taney issued a writ of habeas corpus and ordered General George Cadwalader, Fort McHenry’s commander, to appear in the circuit courtroom along with Merryman and to explain his reasons for detaining Merryman.

Cadwalader didn’t comply with the writ and instead sent a letter back to Taney on May 27 explaining that Lincoln had authorized military officers to suspend the writ when they felt there were public safety concerns. Taney then tried to notify Cadwalader that he was in contempt of court, but soldiers at Fort McHenry refused the notice.

However, Taney noted that he didn’t have the physical power to enforce the writ in this case because of the nature of the conflict at hand. “I have exercised all the power which the Constitution and laws confer on me, but that power has been resisted by a force too strong for me to overcome,” he said. But Taney did order that a copy of his opinion be sent directly to President Lincoln.


Rulings by federal judges are not enforceable suicide pacts. Lincoln acted as he did to prevent sabotage of the United States Army supply chains, and that took precedence over preventing a circuit judge's ruling from being ignored.

are you suggesting Taney bested Lincoln?
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Lincoln then presented his famous response to Taney. “Are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, and the Government itself go to pieces lest that one be violated? Even in such a case, would not the official oath be broken if the Government should be overthrown when it was believed that disregarding the single law would tend to preserve it?”
 
one more clueless post by the King-of-Cluelessness @ usmb

and thank you for validating my opinion
Ever heard of President Jefferson?... watch this video and learn something that your public schools failed to teach you...
The Judicial branch is just another branch of government and can not stop a US president from performing his duty as president of the United States... your media is lying to you or worse and they are as uneducated as the seem...

 
Ever heard of President Jefferson?... watch this video and learn something that your public schools failed to teach you...
The Judicial branch is just another branch of government and can not stop a US president from performing his duty as president of the United States... your media is lying to you or worse and they are as uneducated as the seem...


Dersh believed OJ Simpson didn't slaughter his ex wife and Ron Goldman
 
Dersh believed OJ Simpson didn't slaughter his ex wife and Ron Goldman
Andrew Jackson said "the court made their ruling now let them enforce it"... see that's the point... they can rule all they want but they have zero ability to enforce them onto an equal part of government... Dante you are just wrong on this... sure a judge can pause an action but it has no stay power... because there is always a court of appeal....
 
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Thomas Jefferson said "the court made their ruling now let them enforce it"... see that's the point... they can rule all they want but they have zero ability to enforce them onto an equal part of government... Dante you are just wrong on this... sure a judge can pause an action but it has no stay power... because there is always a court of appeal....
You have the wrong president. It was Andrew Jackson not Jefferson that said let the Supreme Court enforce their decision, but Jackson later issued a proclamation affirming the Supreme Court had the ultimate power to decide Constitutional questions.

You Trumpers want to give Trump dictatorial power with no checks, That is third-world shit hole politics.
 
You have the wrong president. It was Andrew Jackson not Jefferson that said let the Supreme Court enforce their decision, but Jackson later issued a proclamation affirming the Supreme Court had the ultimate power to decide Constitutional questions.

You Trumpers want to give Trump dictatorial power with no checks, That is third-world shit hole politics.
My mistake you are correct... but Jefferson ignored court rulings on many issues... so did Jackson... and so has a lot of presidents...
 

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