Trump, Vance and GOP struggle to address abortion issues

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘Republicans from Donald Trump down, facing the first presidential election since the fall of Roe v. Wade, are still struggling to find their footing on the issue, caught between a conservative base and a majority of Americans who support abortion rights.

Trump has sought to moderate his position but carries the baggage of helping to overturn Roe, the landmark abortion rights case, and this week he opposed an abortion rights measure in Florida after months of equivocating. Running mate JD Vance, like a host of other GOP candidates, has softened his stance — but found his past support for sweeping abortion restrictions hard to escape. And party leaders have been evasive on key policy questions such as their plans for abortion pill access.

“They have looked like a three-ring circus that’s badly managed,” said Chuck Coughlin, a longtime consultant to GOP candidates in Arizona, who laughed when asked if Republicans had corrected the problems with abortion that plagued them in the 2022 midterms. “It’s just terrible the way they’ve handled the whole thing.”

Trump, Coughlin said, wants to “jettison his legacy, which he can’t jettison. … He’s a deer in the headlights.” Trump has boasted of appointing three justices to the Supreme Court that cemented the majority behind the June 2022 Dobbs decision that overturned Roe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/31/trump-vance-republicans-abortion-reproductive-rights/

Republicans have only themselves to blame; be careful what you wish for.

 

[shockedcanadian]

‘Republicans from Donald Trump down, facing the first presidential election since the fall of Roe v. Wade, are still struggling to find their footing on the issue, caught between a conservative base and a majority of Americans who support abortion rights.

Trump has sought to moderate his position but carries the baggage of helping to overturn Roe, the landmark abortion rights case, and this week he opposed an abortion rights measure in Florida after months of equivocating. Running mate JD Vance, like a host of other GOP candidates, has softened his stance — but found his past support for sweeping abortion restrictions hard to escape. And party leaders have been evasive on key policy questions such as their plans for abortion pill access.

“They have looked like a three-ring circus that’s badly managed,” said Chuck Coughlin, a longtime consultant to GOP candidates in Arizona, who laughed when asked if Republicans had corrected the problems with abortion that plagued them in the 2022 midterms. “It’s just terrible the way they’ve handled the whole thing.”

Trump, Coughlin said, wants to “jettison his legacy, which he can’t jettison. … He’s a deer in the headlights.” Trump has boasted of appointing three justices to the Supreme Court that cemented the majority behind the June 2022 Dobbs decision that overturned Roe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/31/trump-vance-republicans-abortion-reproductive-rights/

Republicans have only themselves to blame; be careful what you wish for.

Recall I first warned people on here that this was an unecessary decision by the S.C to hurt Trump. Trump (and some.of his supporters on this forum) took a victory lap before that midterm even though it was destined to hurt him. He should not have taken credit for this decision, he should have just said "The S.C is independent". He just has to remind people that he is not interested in any sort of national abortion ban and no one has proposed.one to him, even if they did, he would not spport it. There are key policies he can push to get the female.vote, I may share one later today.

 

[struth]

The left is desperate to make abortion a presidential issue still, even though it’s not

Why? Cause Harris can’t run on her record

 

[Moonglow]

The left is desperate to make abortion a presidential issue still, even though it’s not

Why? Cause Harris can’t run on her record

Then why is Trump worrying about it?

 

[struth]

Then why is Trump worrying about it?

He isn’t he addressed it and made clear his position
He’s not the one bringing it up, the dembots are so theg don’t have to talk about the harris record

 

[Moonglow]

He isn’t he addressed it and made clear his position
He’s not the one bringing it up, the dembots are so theg don’t have to talk about the harris record

Trump brags about role in overturning Roe v. Wade but ...​

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Jan 11, 2024 — Former President Donald Trump boasted about his role in overturning the constitutional right to an abortion Wednesday night, calling it a miracle.

 

[struth]

Trump brags about role in overturning Roe v. Wade but ...​

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Jan 11, 2024 — Former President Donald Trump boasted about his role in overturning the constitutional right to an abortion Wednesday night, calling it a miracle.

??? Weird, I thought you said he was “worried” about it?

 

[Moonglow]

??? Weird, I thought you said he was “worried” about it?

Evidently, he is if he is bragging about a dead subject.

 

[struth]

Evidently, he is if he is bragging about a dead subject.

If he was worried about it, why would he brag about it?

 

[Moonglow]

If he was worried about it, why would he brag about it?

It's a form of nervous reaction.

 

[Auld Phart]

Trump brags about role in overturning Roe v. Wade but ...​

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Jan 11, 2024 — Former President Donald Trump boasted about his role in overturning the constitutional right to an abortion Wednesday night, calling it a miracle.

constitutional right to an abortion

I missed that in Civics class.

which amendment?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

‘Republicans from Donald Trump down, facing the first presidential election since the fall of Roe v. Wade, are still struggling to find their footing on the issue, caught between a conservative base and a majority of Americans who support abortion rights.

Trump has sought to moderate his position but carries the baggage of helping to overturn Roe, the landmark abortion rights case, and this week he opposed an abortion rights measure in Florida after months of equivocating. Running mate JD Vance, like a host of other GOP candidates, has softened his stance — but found his past support for sweeping abortion restrictions hard to escape. And party leaders have been evasive on key policy questions such as their plans for abortion pill access.

“They have looked like a three-ring circus that’s badly managed,” said Chuck Coughlin, a longtime consultant to GOP candidates in Arizona, who laughed when asked if Republicans had corrected the problems with abortion that plagued them in the 2022 midterms. “It’s just terrible the way they’ve handled the whole thing.”

Trump, Coughlin said, wants to “jettison his legacy, which he can’t jettison. … He’s a deer in the headlights.” Trump has boasted of appointing three justices to the Supreme Court that cemented the majority behind the June 2022 Dobbs decision that overturned Roe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/31/trump-vance-republicans-abortion-reproductive-rights/

Republicans have only themselves to blame; be careful what you wish for.

The waffling on abortion is not the amusing part. Being against it is a loser for Republicans. Even discussing the issue for them is toxic. They can't win.
What is amusing are the hundreds of thousands of pro-choice, Christian conservatives who have just had their values and beliefs thrown under the bus by Trump and Co, but will
twist themselves into pretzels, hold their nose, and bend over backwards to vote for him. They figure he largely serves their purpose and that he will not go against their beliefs should
he be elected. Part and parcel of supporting a con man. The bottom line is that man will say or do anything.

 

[DGS49]

How totally stupid can you get?

The overturn of RvW shifted the abortion issue to the States, where it belongs (in the absence of a Constitutional Amendment). Both Trump and Vance have affirmed that that is where it belongs, and have deferred the issue accordingly. Trump has ridiculed (appropriately) the Leftist claims that he wants to - or will - ban abortion nationally if he is elected.

But a main target of Democrat advertising these days is low-information White women, who can be easily alarmed and caused to clutch at their figurative pearls.

IT IS NOT AN ISSUE in this election, but the Leftists, having nothing else to sell, are demanding that it remain an issue, at least in the minds of its stupid partisans. The Media, of course, continue to treat it as an issue, constantly wondering what Trump will do on the issue, pretending that his position is unclear.

They are all evil. Except Fox News.

 

[1srelluc]

State issue....End of story as far as the POTUS contest goes....Down ticket with abortion issues on the ballot in various states might be a different story.

 

[Dragonlady]

The left is desperate to make abortion a presidential issue still, even though it’s not

Why? Cause Harris can’t run on her record

WOMEN ARE DYING!!!! How many times do we have to tell you fools this. Women warned Republicans what would happen if they banned abortions.

Republican women in red states Houses got up and spoke elequently on how necessary it was to have reproductive health care legal for women with complications of pregnancy. Not only did the men refuse to listen to them, the women were "primaried" and run out of office for opposing these draconian measures.

Republican women have miscarriages too. And no this is NOT desperation on the part of Democrats. This is American women standing up and saying ENOUGH!!!

 

[struth]

WOMEN ARE DYING!!!! How many times do we have to tell you fools this. Women warned Republicans what would happen if they banned abortions.

Republican women in red states Houses got up and spoke elequently on how necessary it was to have reproductive health care legal for women with complications of pregnancy. Not only did the men refuse to listen to them, the women were "primaried" and run out of office for opposing these draconian measures.

Republican women have miscarriages too. And no this is NOT desperation on the part of Democrats. This is American women standing up and saying ENOUGH!!!

Women die every day in this country.

Not sure your point. Women however are living longer then they ever did before.

With that said heart disease is the leading cause of death for women in the United States. Do you think heart transplants shouldn’t be regulated?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Recall I first warned people on here that this was an unecessary decision by the S.C to hurt Trump. Trump (and some.of his supporters on this forum) took a victory lap before that midterm even though it was destined to hurt him. He should not have taken credit for this decision, he should have just said "The S.C is independent". He just has to remind people that he is not interested in any sort of national abortion ban and no one has proposed.one to him, even if they did, he would not spport it. There are key policies he can push to get the female.vote, I may share one later today.

right

 

[boevans]

 

[SassyIrishLass]

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Hopefully you're snipped.

Doubtful

 

[boevans]

Why? You want all adults to be parents.