US's true motive for Iraq intervention

[Delta4Embassy]

Militants Hold Seven Iraq Oil Fields After Syria Blitz, IEA Says - Bloomberg

"Islamic State fighters have captured seven oil fields in Iraq with a total output capacity of 80,000 barrels a day, adding to energy deposits they seized earlier in neighboring Syria, the International Energy Agency said...

“Everyone is watching very closely to see whether the Islamic State can make any further advances toward Erbil or toward the fields like Bai Hassan that are closest to the frontline because there is a very real threat there,” Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. in London, said by phone. “A number of international oil companies working in the Kurdish region are concerned” and have withdrawn their staff, he said...

Iraq, with the world’s fifth-biggest crude reserves, is the largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, after Saudi Arabia. While fighting spurred companies including BP Plc (BP/) and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) to evacuate workers from the country’s north, Iraq pumps and exports most of its crude from the Shiite-dominated south, where the Sunni insurgency has had little impact...

Total Iraqi output from areas controlled either by the central government or the Kurdistan Regional Government dropped to an average of 3.1 million barrels a day in July..."






Gee, the Kurdish region has a lot of oil? So it's not because of Christians, Kurds, or some obscure cult, but oil? Hmm, given how much grief was heaped on the Bush Administration during their 'oil rescue operations' in the 90s and 2000s apparently the Obama administration is trying a new PR strategy to get public support for yet more American lives for oil: claim Christians are at risk. America's a Christian-dominated nation. So while the public isn't likely to support another war for oil, they'd certainly support a war to save fellow Christians.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Americans would never support another war for oil. But neither would they support having to pay more for gasoline to fuel their cars. What to do, what to do? How about we give them something they can support publicly without having to acknowledge the truth? "We're saving people on a mountain top as well as Christians fleeing the big bad Muslims." That works.

 

[DriftingSand]

War almost ALWAYS revolves around money. It just feels better if we can put a moral face on it.

 

[Mr. H.]

Name one American "war for oil".

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Please, it's not 'war' but 'aggressive negotiations.'

 

[Figaro]

There is another one point. So called ISIS (now IS), was the force that helped US to "establish business" and "bring the peace" in Syria before. Of course, that Obama has sponsored his "arms of justice". It turns out that these radicals, realizing their power, decided to get out of control and do their own things. Obama has nurtured global threat. Then they just veered out of control and now the government have to suppress them

 

[Katzndogz]

Yes. Of course. ISIS should never be permitted to control those oil fields. They will use the proceeds to support yet more terrorist activities! They will get richer, bigger, more powerful and kill more people.

No one would seriously think that allowing ISIS to take over any oil fields is inconsequential.

 

[CherryPanda]

Of course, it's oil! Or gas. Or other resources. Or influence. Or power. Or money. Well, it's always money in the end. Wars are great opportunity to earn and to steal.
For example, Exxon Mobil, mentioned above, earned in Iraq around $39.5 billion in 2006 and $39.2 billion in 2007.
And nobody cares about people.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Even if ISIS took over all the oil fields what are they gonna do with it? Drink it? No, they're gonna sell it. Probably have to pay more is all that'd happen, but once oil's on the international market 'stage' anyone can buy it. This is about keeping oil prices low and reassuring Kuwait, KSA, and everybody else. Markets don't like uncertainty.

 

[B. Kidd]

Erbil now considered the 9th largest oil producing region in the world.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Militants Hold Seven Iraq Oil Fields After Syria Blitz, IEA Says - Bloomberg

"Islamic State fighters have captured seven oil fields in Iraq with a total output capacity of 80,000 barrels a day, adding to energy deposits they seized earlier in neighboring Syria, the International Energy Agency said...

“Everyone is watching very closely to see whether the Islamic State can make any further advances toward Erbil or toward the fields like Bai Hassan that are closest to the frontline because there is a very real threat there,” Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. in London, said by phone. “A number of international oil companies working in the Kurdish region are concerned” and have withdrawn their staff, he said...

Iraq, with the world’s fifth-biggest crude reserves, is the largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, after Saudi Arabia. While fighting spurred companies including BP Plc (BP/) and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) to evacuate workers from the country’s north, Iraq pumps and exports most of its crude from the Shiite-dominated south, where the Sunni insurgency has had little impact...

Total Iraqi output from areas controlled either by the central government or the Kurdistan Regional Government dropped to an average of 3.1 million barrels a day in July..."






Gee, the Kurdish region has a lot of oil? So it's not because of Christians, Kurds, or some obscure cult, but oil? Hmm, given how much grief was heaped on the Bush Administration during their 'oil rescue operations' in the 90s and 2000s apparently the Obama administration is trying a new PR strategy to get public support for yet more American lives for oil: claim Christians are at risk. America's a Christian-dominated nation. So while the public isn't likely to support another war for oil, they'd certainly support a war to save fellow Christians.

How much oil do we get from the middle east?

Not as much as you think.

But hey, when do liberals ever let facts sway their opinion. But then again, when do liberals ever acknowledge facts?

How much petroleum does the United States import and from where?

 

[georgephillip]

Patrick Cockburn has been covering the Middle East as an un-embedded corespondent for decades, which might explain why his opinion is seldom sought out by the corporate press:

"Iraq is becoming a land of refugees like Syria, the UN saying that more than 500,000 people have been displaced by the violence since June, bringing the total this year to well over one million.

"Many who fled in the first six months came from Anbar province where Sunni were escaping the fighting.

"One casualty of the fighting may be Kurdish oil boom, with oil companies repatriating employees. Over the past three or four years, Erbil has become a boom town with newly built luxury hotels filled with visiting businessmen.

"However corrupt and bureaucratic the Kurdish administration, it was still better than that in Baghdad.

"This bubble of optimism is unlikely to be undamaged as Kurdistan is not immune from the turmoil in the rest of Iraq.

"In effect, all Iraq is a battle zone."

Iraq crisis: American intervention against Isis boosts Kurdish morale as President Obama launches more air strikes - Middle East - World - The Independent

How much worse would things have to get between now and November before you would consider rejecting Republicans AND Democrats when voting for your congressional house and senate members?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Militants Hold Seven Iraq Oil Fields After Syria Blitz, IEA Says - Bloomberg

"Islamic State fighters have captured seven oil fields in Iraq with a total output capacity of 80,000 barrels a day, adding to energy deposits they seized earlier in neighboring Syria, the International Energy Agency said...

“Everyone is watching very closely to see whether the Islamic State can make any further advances toward Erbil or toward the fields like Bai Hassan that are closest to the frontline because there is a very real threat there,” Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. in London, said by phone. “A number of international oil companies working in the Kurdish region are concerned” and have withdrawn their staff, he said...

Iraq, with the world’s fifth-biggest crude reserves, is the largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, after Saudi Arabia. While fighting spurred companies including BP Plc (BP/) and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) to evacuate workers from the country’s north, Iraq pumps and exports most of its crude from the Shiite-dominated south, where the Sunni insurgency has had little impact...

Total Iraqi output from areas controlled either by the central government or the Kurdistan Regional Government dropped to an average of 3.1 million barrels a day in July..."






Gee, the Kurdish region has a lot of oil? So it's not because of Christians, Kurds, or some obscure cult, but oil? Hmm, given how much grief was heaped on the Bush Administration during their 'oil rescue operations' in the 90s and 2000s apparently the Obama administration is trying a new PR strategy to get public support for yet more American lives for oil: claim Christians are at risk. America's a Christian-dominated nation. So while the public isn't likely to support another war for oil, they'd certainly support a war to save fellow Christians.

How much oil do we get from the middle east?

Not as much as you think.

But hey, when do liberals ever let facts sway their opinion. But then again, when do liberals ever acknowledge facts?

How much petroleum does the United States import and from where?

(looks over his shoulders) Who's a liberal? Pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, pro-law enforcement, pro-Israel (slobberingly so.) I don't think you know the first thing about what a liberal is.

 

[Moonglow]

There is another one point. So called ISIS (now IS), was the force that helped US to "establish business" and "bring the peace" in Syria before. Of course, that Obama has sponsored his "arms of justice". It turns out that these radicals, realizing their power, decided to get out of control and do their own things. Obama has nurtured global threat. Then they just veered out of control and now the government have to suppress them

More lies, ISIS is what was left of Al Qaeda in Northern Iraq, that the Iraq war pushed into Syria, then the Syrian war happened and it was funded by the Saudis and the other Sunni oil rich nations.. Not the USA and damn sure not Oblama..

Pundits have traced ISIS’s funding to everything to drugs (as the Daily Beast’s Josh Rogin told CNN) to wealthy donors in the Gulf States allied with the U.S.

ISIS: World?s scariest terrorist group also the richest

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Insofar as US politics are concerned I'm in point of fact completely apolitical. Not a registered anything. I follow issues and know what's going on, that might be why you're confused only knowing what you see on tv or where ever you get your propaganda. Only political party I have any official ties to is the Israeli Likud party. Everyone else can suck it.

 

[B. Kidd]

Militants Hold Seven Iraq Oil Fields After Syria Blitz, IEA Says - Bloomberg

"Islamic State fighters have captured seven oil fields in Iraq with a total output capacity of 80,000 barrels a day, adding to energy deposits they seized earlier in neighboring Syria, the International Energy Agency said...

“Everyone is watching very closely to see whether the Islamic State can make any further advances toward Erbil or toward the fields like Bai Hassan that are closest to the frontline because there is a very real threat there,” Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. in London, said by phone. “A number of international oil companies working in the Kurdish region are concerned” and have withdrawn their staff, he said...

Iraq, with the world’s fifth-biggest crude reserves, is the largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, after Saudi Arabia. While fighting spurred companies including BP Plc (BP/) and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) to evacuate workers from the country’s north, Iraq pumps and exports most of its crude from the Shiite-dominated south, where the Sunni insurgency has had little impact...

Total Iraqi output from areas controlled either by the central government or the Kurdistan Regional Government dropped to an average of 3.1 million barrels a day in July..."






Gee, the Kurdish region has a lot of oil? So it's not because of Christians, Kurds, or some obscure cult, but oil? Hmm, given how much grief was heaped on the Bush Administration during their 'oil rescue operations' in the 90s and 2000s apparently the Obama administration is trying a new PR strategy to get public support for yet more American lives for oil: claim Christians are at risk. America's a Christian-dominated nation. So while the public isn't likely to support another war for oil, they'd certainly support a war to save fellow Christians.

How much oil do we get from the middle east?

Not as much as you think.

But hey, when do liberals ever let facts sway their opinion. But then again, when do liberals ever acknowledge facts?

How much petroleum does the United States import and from where?

Moot point.
Kurd oil part of the petrodollar matrix.

 

[B. Kidd]

U.S. oil companies that operate in Kurdistan:

Exxon Mobil
Marathon
Chevron
Hess

 

[Lonestar_logic]

U.S. oil companies that operate in Kurdistan:

Exxon Mobil
Marathon
Chevron
Hess

So?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Militants Hold Seven Iraq Oil Fields After Syria Blitz, IEA Says - Bloomberg

"Islamic State fighters have captured seven oil fields in Iraq with a total output capacity of 80,000 barrels a day, adding to energy deposits they seized earlier in neighboring Syria, the International Energy Agency said...

“Everyone is watching very closely to see whether the Islamic State can make any further advances toward Erbil or toward the fields like Bai Hassan that are closest to the frontline because there is a very real threat there,” Richard Mallinson, an analyst at Energy Aspects Ltd. in London, said by phone. “A number of international oil companies working in the Kurdish region are concerned” and have withdrawn their staff, he said...

Iraq, with the world’s fifth-biggest crude reserves, is the largest producer in the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, after Saudi Arabia. While fighting spurred companies including BP Plc (BP/) and Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) to evacuate workers from the country’s north, Iraq pumps and exports most of its crude from the Shiite-dominated south, where the Sunni insurgency has had little impact...

Total Iraqi output from areas controlled either by the central government or the Kurdistan Regional Government dropped to an average of 3.1 million barrels a day in July..."






Gee, the Kurdish region has a lot of oil? So it's not because of Christians, Kurds, or some obscure cult, but oil? Hmm, given how much grief was heaped on the Bush Administration during their 'oil rescue operations' in the 90s and 2000s apparently the Obama administration is trying a new PR strategy to get public support for yet more American lives for oil: claim Christians are at risk. America's a Christian-dominated nation. So while the public isn't likely to support another war for oil, they'd certainly support a war to save fellow Christians.

How much oil do we get from the middle east?

Not as much as you think.

But hey, when do liberals ever let facts sway their opinion. But then again, when do liberals ever acknowledge facts?

How much petroleum does the United States import and from where?

Moot point.
Kurd oil part of the petrodollar matrix.

Moot point my ass.

He's claiming our interest is in the oil and I've just shown how little we depend on middle east oil.

Tell me, how much oil did we get from Iraq?

You people are dumber than dirt.

 

[B. Kidd]

U.S. oil companies that operate in Kurdistan:

Exxon Mobil
Marathon
Chevron
Hess

So?

Sorta explains U.S. airstrike timing. Erbil was in jeopardy. Saving persecuted Christians does put a nice humanitarian 'spin' on things, tho'.