Veganism and health.

[Woodznutz]

Veganism eschews the natural fertilization of crops using animal manures in favor of chemical fertilizers. These chemicals already have a profound environmental impact, which would be manifold times worse if veganism expands beyond its current numbers.

The Hidden Dangers of Chemical Fertilizers -- Environmental Protection

Because the damage caused by chemical fertilizers is often long-term and cumulative, it may be wiser to consider alternative and sustainable methods of fertilizing the soil.

eponline.com

 

[jwoodie]

There are no proven health benefits from veganism.

 

[lg325]

That is surprising. Chemical fertilizers must be used according to directions, no deviancy if not that's where the trouble to health and environment begins.

 

[Woodznutz]

That is surprising. Chemical fertilizers must be used according to directions, no deviancy if not that's where the trouble to health and environment begins.

Monsanto can't control the rain. If it rains too much the chemical fertilizer is released too soon and much of it seeps into the groundwater. If it doesn't rain the fertilizer isn't released and the plants don't grow. Neither of these problems exist with natural fertilizers.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Monsanto can't control the rain. If it rains too much the chemical fertilizer is released too soon and much of it seeps into the groundwater. If it doesn't rain the fertilizer isn't released and the plants don't grow. Neither of these problems exist with natural fertilizers.

Monsanto is evil. They use genetically altered seeds that resist the horrible herbicide they use to kill everything but their seeds. They spray the herbicide close to the neighboring farms, so it will drift and kill the neighbor's crops. Then they buy up the neighbor's contaminated fields or the neighboring farm has no choice but to buy Monsanto's altered seeds because they are the only thing that the herbicide doesn't kill.
Then we eat that shit...

 

[Woodznutz]

Sage, inform yourself.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Monsanto can't control the rain. If it rains too much the chemical fertilizer is released too soon and much of it seeps into the groundwater. If it doesn't rain the fertilizer isn't released and the plants don't grow. Neither of these problems exist with natural fertilizers.

Nature Is a Crime Against Humanity

If it doesn't rain, the crops won't grow anyway. You can't blame it on the fertilizer. Such a non-sequitur makes all your other claims suspicious.

Sage, inform yourself.

Never trust your Infloozies

 

[buttercup]

There are no proven health benefits from veganism.

That is so laughably false, that I almost feel it's not worthy of a response.

But here's something important to know. Within veganism there is a range of different diets that are not all the same. Technically, someone could eat a "diet" of nothing but Oreos, and that could be considered a "vegan diet" simply because there are no animal products.

But a whole food plant-based diet? It's one of the healthiest if not THE healthiest diet of all.....that has been known to not only prevent disease, but actually reverse disease.

On this YouTube channel you will find TONS of testimonies of people who beat cancer or other diseases by radically changing their diet, to a whole food plant-based diet.

chrisbeatcancer

Nutrition and natural therapies for prevention and healing. Hi there! My name is Chris Wark. I was diagnosed with Stage 3 Colon Cancer in 2003, at 26 years old. I had surgery but refused chemo. Instead, I used nutrition and natural therapies to heal myself. By the grace of God, I'm alive and...

www.youtube.com

Plus there are tons of studies going back many decades that say the same thing.

Carl in Michigan

FredVegbarfuss

Blues Man

 

[Captain Caveman]

Useless information -

Plants that grew because they were pollinated by bees are not classed as vegan.

 

[Leo123]

Us omnivores eat vegans.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Eating Chicken Could Shorten Your Lifespan, Raise Cancer Risk: Study

Consuming more than 300 grams of poultry per week may lead to an increase in all-cause deaths and cancers, according to a new study. The findings contradict existing research and are being approached with caution by experts.

www.healthline.com

 

[Carl in Michigan]

But a whole food plant-based diet? It's one of the healthiest if not THE healthiest diet of all.....that has been known to not only prevent disease, but actually reverse disease.

As a cancer survivor, I'm betting my LIFE on this (a whole foods plant based diet). But I'm not making that choice for health reasons but because it is aligned with the will of the Father

 

[Captain Caveman]

Eating Chicken Could Shorten Your Lifespan, Raise Cancer Risk: Study

Consuming more than 300 grams of poultry per week may lead to an increase in all-cause deaths and cancers, according to a new study. The findings contradict existing research and are being approached with caution by experts.

www.healthline.com

We scoff chicken most days.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

 

[MisterBeale]

The (Vegan Ecological) Wasteland

🖨️ Print post Under the great expanse of striated sky, my motorbike choked its way out from the winter-womb of Burwell Village. Bottoming down from the low hill, […]

www.westonaprice.org

The Plant Based Culture Myth and the Work of Weston A. Price - Ancestral Nutrition

From the time I became a vegetarian and started paying attention to food politics, there seems to be this perpetual ideaof plant based cultures. Or at least cultures that mostly rely on "plant-based foods" are healthier than meat-eating cultures. The first issue I take with this, and it was not...

ancestral-nutrition.com

The problems spelled on in the OP, also plague modern diets that include meat.

Vegans vs Weston Price - Critical MAS

There are two nutritional camps I respect who disagree with each other. I see the value in each path and will try to reconcile the differences. We all know what the vegans represent—no animal products. The vegans that I follow are the whole food plant-based ones that are nutrition first. Weston...

criticalmas.org

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Drone Thinking

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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The (Vegan Ecological) Wasteland

🖨️ Print post Under the great expanse of striated sky, my motorbike choked its way out from the winter-womb of Burwell Village. Bottoming down from the low hill, […]

www.westonaprice.org

The Plant Based Culture Myth and the Work of Weston A. Price - Ancestral Nutrition

From the time I became a vegetarian and started paying attention to food politics, there seems to be this perpetual ideaof plant based cultures. Or at least cultures that mostly rely on "plant-based foods" are healthier than meat-eating cultures. The first issue I take with this, and it was not...

ancestral-nutrition.com

The problems spelled on in the OP, also plague modern diets that include meat.

Vegans vs Weston Price - Critical MAS

There are two nutritional camps I respect who disagree with each other. I see the value in each path and will try to reconcile the differences. We all know what the vegans represent—no animal products. The vegans that I follow are the whole food plant-based ones that are nutrition first. Weston...

criticalmas.org

Mrs Beal wants to "shame" people into not leaving the Hive Mind

 

[buttercup]

As a cancer survivor, I'm betting my LIFE on this (a whole foods plant based diet). But I'm not making that choice for health reasons but because it is aligned with the will of the Father

Yup. My reason for going vegan had nothing to do with health. BUT it just so happened to make me much healthier, as I've mentioned many times on other threads.

What do I want to put in my body....decaying corpses of animals who were abused, tortured and begged for mercy til their last moment? Or REAL food that we were designed to eat from the start?

Since our bodies are temples, I think the answer to that question is clear:

 

[Carl in Michigan]

 

[buttercup]

View attachment 1107188

The (Vegan Ecological) Wasteland

🖨️ Print post Under the great expanse of striated sky, my motorbike choked its way out from the winter-womb of Burwell Village. Bottoming down from the low hill, […]

www.westonaprice.org

The Plant Based Culture Myth and the Work of Weston A. Price - Ancestral Nutrition

From the time I became a vegetarian and started paying attention to food politics, there seems to be this perpetual ideaof plant based cultures. Or at least cultures that mostly rely on "plant-based foods" are healthier than meat-eating cultures. The first issue I take with this, and it was not...

ancestral-nutrition.com

The problems spelled on in the OP, also plague modern diets that include meat.

Vegans vs Weston Price - Critical MAS

There are two nutritional camps I respect who disagree with each other. I see the value in each path and will try to reconcile the differences. We all know what the vegans represent—no animal products. The vegans that I follow are the whole food plant-based ones that are nutrition first. Weston...

criticalmas.org

You really should listen to Derrick Broze on this topic. He's been vegan for about 15 years, but he is against the "faux" veganism that you seem to be talking about. (I didn't read those links yet)

I can't find them at the moment, but he has shared links on this, so I'll look for those and post them when I find it. In the meantime, here's something if you're interested:

Vegans Against Agenda 2030/ Vegans for Freedom