Voting Question For The Left

[Independent thinker]

Let's say I'm not thrilled with voting for Donald J Trump, for a number of reasons, I do lean right and am a moderate conservative (some on the right would label me a RINO). I see the country has fallen apart in Biden's 3 1/2 years and that average Americans can't afford to live anymore. The border is a sieve and Democrats refuse to even try stopping migrants from coming here illegally, constantly finding ways to make illegals legal as being their solution.

Crime is out of control no matter how much the left lie about it. I pretty much don't agree with any democrat policies since they have veered so far left. I see that Democrats have weaponized the justice system against Trump and others. I also see that democrats have already been a real threat to democracy and that they will continue being a real threat to democracy. I am absolutely and totally against socialism and wokeness and refuse to vote for anyone who would keep us going down the socialist and wokeness roads and the road of financial ruin, not only for our country but for average Americans. So, who should I vote for if I don't want Trump to be president?

Instead of the left coming up with a solution for me, I suspect that they will either:

1. Tell me how wrong I am

or

2. Tell me I am really a Trump ass licker

But, I'm actually quite serious. Who should I vote for? A vote for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Harris and all of the things I am against and detest.

 

[candycorn]

Let's say I'm not thrilled with voting for Donald J Trump, for a number of reasons, I do lean right and am a moderate conservative (some on the right would label me a RINO). I see the country has fallen apart in Biden's 3 1/2 years and that average Americans can't afford to live anymore. The border is a sieve and Democrats refuse to even try stopping migrants from coming here illegally, constantly finding ways to make illegals legal as being their solution.

Crime is out of control no matter how much the left lie about it. I pretty much don't agree with any democrat policies since they have veered so far left. I see that Democrats have weaponized the justice system against Trump and others. I also see that democrats have already been a real threat to democracy and that they will continue being a real threat to democracy. I am absolutely and totally against the wokeness and refuse to vote for anyone who would keep us going down the wokeness road and the road of financial ruin, not only for our country but for average Americans. So, who should I vote for if I don't want Trump to be president?

Instead of the left coming up with a solution for me, I suspect that they will either:

1. Tell me how wrong I am

or

2. Tell me I am really a Trump ass licker

But, I'm actually quite serious. Who should I vote for? A vote for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Harris and all of the things I am against and detest.

Statistics say crime is not out of control.

Your premise is flawed.

And yes, you’re a Trump ass licker.

I don’t care who you vote for really. His Blobness will be a footnote in history in either 40 days or 4 years. The sun is setting on the MAGA movement much like it has sat on the NeoCons, TEA party, etc... And you’ll be back to voting for some comparatively sane republican in 2028.

 

[Independent thinker]

Statistics say crime is not out of control.

Your premise is flawed.

And yes, you’re a Trump ass licker.

I don’t care who you vote for really. His Blobness will be a footnote in history in either 40 days or 4 years. The sun is setting on the MAGA movement much like it has sat on the NeoCons, TEA party, etc... And you’ll be back to voting for some comparatively sane republican in 2028.

You are a liar. Statistics say that crime IS out of control, including violent crime. You manipulate facts to try proving your point on that but manipulated facts are still manipulated facts. The blobness has had the justice system weaponized against him and I say that as a person who is not really fond of Trump. Anyone who has an open mind can easily see that.

 

[candycorn]

You are a liar. Statistics say that crime IS out of control, including violent crime. You manipulate facts to try proving your point on that but manipulated facts are still manipulated facts.

Sorry. Facts are not your friend.

 

[Independent thinker]

Sorry. Facts are not your friend.

Sorry. Facts are not YOUR friend.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Statistics say that crime IS out of control, including violent crime.

Then post them.

 

[rightwinger]

Tell me how wrong I am

Dems tried to work with Republicans on a Border Bill and came up with a bipartisan plan that addressed many Republican concerns. Trump did not want a border bill in an election year and killed it.

Inflation was a global issue due to COVID impacts on the supply chain and the Ukraine war. The US has recovered better than most of the world and has Inflation below 3 percent.

In spite of RW fear mongering, crime is down significantly

The Justice System is not weaponized against Trump. Trumps own bad decisions are responsible for each felony charge.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's say I'm not thrilled with voting for Donald J Trump, for a number of reasons, I do lean right and am a moderate conservative (some on the right would label me a RINO). I see the country has fallen apart in Biden's 3 1/2 years and that average Americans can't afford to live anymore. The border is a sieve and Democrats refuse to even try stopping migrants from coming here illegally, constantly finding ways to make illegals legal as being their solution.

Crime is out of control no matter how much the left lie about it. I pretty much don't agree with any democrat policies since they have veered so far left. I see that Democrats have weaponized the justice system against Trump and others. I also see that democrats have already been a real threat to democracy and that they will continue being a real threat to democracy. I am absolutely and totally against socialism and wokeness and refuse to vote for anyone who would keep us going down the socialist and wokeness roads and the road of financial ruin, not only for our country but for average Americans. So, who should I vote for if I don't want Trump to be president?

Instead of the left coming up with a solution for me, I suspect that they will either:

1. Tell me how wrong I am

or

2. Tell me I am really a Trump ass licker

But, I'm actually quite serious. Who should I vote for? A vote for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Harris and all of the things I am against and detest.

Well, the problem is, your premise is mostly wrong.

I think the problem is, that we've traumatically blocked out of our minds how really bad 2020 was. (Not an unusual phenomenon). Our lives are vastly better now than they were in 2020.

But if you want to vote your anger, that the world isn't turning out the way you want it to, maybe you should vote for Trump. Just pretend he won't fuck it up as badly as he did the first time.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Sorry. Facts are not YOUR friend.

post the statistics that say that crime IS out of control

 

[Mac1958]

There is a long list Republicans facing this.

Some have decided that who we are as a country is more important than individual issues and policies right now. They'll get back to the issues later.

So they're voting for Harris.

 

[Independent thinker]

Then post them.

MSN

 

[80zephyr]

post the statistics that say that crime IS out of control

Bad data from the FBI mislead about crime - Washington Examiner

The fourth quarter 2023 crime report from the FBI, the federal government’s official keeper of crime data, is unreliable at best and deceptive at worst.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[rightwinger]

Tell me I am really a Trump ass licker

If you are not a Trump ass licker, explain how you support …

Trumps own behavior after losing the 2020 election. The blatant lies, intimidation, refusal to transition and Jan 6.

His hateful rhetoric against legal migrants, calling them murderers and rapists, blaming them for our crime rate and his absolutely ludicrous claims about eating cats and dogs

His refusal to criticize Putin and reluctance to support Ukraine.

His objectionable personal behavior including abuse of women, bullying, constant lies, childish taunts and name calling.

 

[Moonglow]

Let's say I'm not thrilled with voting for Donald J Trump, for a number of reasons, I do lean right and am a moderate conservative (some on the right would label me a RINO). I see the country has fallen apart in Biden's 3 1/2 years and that average Americans can't afford to live anymore. The border is a sieve and Democrats refuse to even try stopping migrants from coming here illegally, constantly finding ways to make illegals legal as being their solution.

Crime is out of control no matter how much the left lie about it. I pretty much don't agree with any democrat policies since they have veered so far left. I see that Democrats have weaponized the justice system against Trump and others. I also see that democrats have already been a real threat to democracy and that they will continue being a real threat to democracy. I am absolutely and totally against socialism and wokeness and refuse to vote for anyone who would keep us going down the socialist and wokeness roads and the road of financial ruin, not only for our country but for average Americans. So, who should I vote for if I don't want Trump to be president?

Instead of the left coming up with a solution for me, I suspect that they will either:

1. Tell me how wrong I am

or

2. Tell me I am really a Trump ass licker

But, I'm actually quite serious. Who should I vote for? A vote for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Harris and all of the things I am against and detest.

pick a name out of a hat.

 

[Independent thinker]

Dems tried to work with Republicans on a Border Bill and came up with a bipartisan plan that addressed many Republican concerns. Trump did not want a border bill in an election year and killed it.

Inflation was a global issue due to COVID impacts on the supply chain and the Ukraine war. The US has recovered better than most of the world and has Inflation below 3 percent.

In spite of RW fear mongering, crime is down significantly

The Justice System is not weaponized against Trump. Trumps own bad decisions are responsible for each felony charge.

That stupid border plan called for letting 2500 illegals per day in, and that is just the ones democrats call illegals. Democrats have a knack for calling illegals legals so there would actually be way more than 2500 per day coming here illegally.

 

[80zephyr]

If you are not a Trump ass licker, explain how you support …

Trumps own behavior after losing the 2020 election. The blatant lies, intimidation, refusal to transition and Jan 6.

His hateful rhetoric against legal migrants, calling them murderers and rapists, blaming them for our crime rate and his absolutely ludicrous claims about eating cats and dogs

His refusal to criticize Putin and reluctance to support Ukraine.

His objectionable personal behavior including abuse of women, bullying, constant lies, childish taunts and name calling.

Lets flip the script. Why are you a Biden supporter. He is a incestuous pedophile.

 

[Independent thinker]

Well, the problem is, your premise is mostly wrong.

I think the problem is, that we've traumatically blocked out of our minds how really bad 2020 was. (Not an unusual phenomenon). Our lives are vastly better now than they were in 2020.

But if you want to vote your anger, that the world isn't turning out the way you want it to, maybe you should vote for Trump. Just pretend he won't fuck it up as badly as he did the first time.

2020 WAS really bad. Ever since Biden has taken office, the country has collapsed to the point where millions of Americans can't afford to live anymore. For once I agree with you how bad 2020 was.

 

[rampart]

Statistics say crime is not out of control.

Your premise is flawed.

And yes, you’re a Trump ass licker.

I don’t care who you vote for really. His Blobness will be a footnote in history in either 40 days or 4 years. The sun is setting on the MAGA movement much like it has sat on the NeoCons, TEA party, etc... And you’ll be back to voting for some comparatively sane republican in 2028.

you need to be ashamed of yourself by putting us in this predicament. haley and even desantis tried to tell you.

i felt bad about dropping mr biden, but we seem to have made the right choice there.

maybe conservatives can pick up the preces. there won't be much, if any , majority in congress and the supreme court is conservative for a generation.

hell, we don't know if governing is even possible as the "chevron doctrine" no longer applies, so it is chaos as usual either way.

 

[rightwinger]

MSN

According to the FBI statistics, murders decreased by 26.4%, rapes were down by 25.7%, robbery decreased by 17.8%, aggravated assault was down by 12.5%, and property crime was lower by 15% in the first quarter.

But Lott said those statistics make up less than 45% of the violent crimes that are committed in the U.S. and only 32% of property crimes. Victims are not reporting incidents as often because they don't believe anyone will be punished, he said.


Not reporting crimes is a constant. There is no evidence that fewer crimes are reported than five years ago.
A significant drop in reported crimes should also correlate to a similar drop in unreported crimes

 

[Crepitus]

Let's say I'm not thrilled with voting for Donald J Trump, for a number of reasons, I do lean right and am a moderate conservative (some on the right would label me a RINO). I see the country has fallen apart in Biden's 3 1/2 years and that average Americans can't afford to live anymore. The border is a sieve and Democrats refuse to even try stopping migrants from coming here illegally, constantly finding ways to make illegals legal as being their solution.

Crime is out of control no matter how much the left lie about it. I pretty much don't agree with any democrat policies since they have veered so far left. I see that Democrats have weaponized the justice system against Trump and others. I also see that democrats have already been a real threat to democracy and that they will continue being a real threat to democracy. I am absolutely and totally against socialism and wokeness and refuse to vote for anyone who would keep us going down the socialist and wokeness roads and the road of financial ruin, not only for our country but for average Americans. So, who should I vote for if I don't want Trump to be president?

Instead of the left coming up with a solution for me, I suspect that they will either:

1. Tell me how wrong I am

or

2. Tell me I am really a Trump ass licker

But, I'm actually quite serious. Who should I vote for? A vote for anyone besides Trump is a vote for Harris and all of the things I am against and detest.

A. Why is it that you kids who put "thinker" in your name so obviously don't?

B. Crime is down almost everywhere and certainly over all violent crime has plummeted. Any actual news source will confirm that for you.

C. What "socialist and wokeness road" are you referring to?
1. The one that lead to the nearly impossible soft landing?

2. The one that kept our inflation lower than almost any other nation's world wide?

3. The one that is bringing prices back under control?

4. The one that has wages growing rapidly?




Which one?