What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?

The U.S. is very unusual. Most of the world is negative on Israel except a few Subsaharan African countries.




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Try again, douchebag, the topic of this thread isn't "what is worldwide opinion of Israel's influence". And stop derailing the thread.

OOppsss Title of thread "What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?"

The post is valid!

Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:
 
September 5, 1986Karachi, PakistanAbu Nidal members hijacked a Pan Am flight leaving Karachi, Pakistan bound for Frankfurt, Germany and New York with 379 passengers, including 89 Americans. The terrorists forced the plane to land in Larnaca, Cyprus, where they demanded the release of two Palestinians and a Briton jailed for the murder of three Israelis there in 1985. The terrorists killed 22 of the passengers, including two American citizens and wounded many others. They were caught and indicted by a Washington grand jury in 1991.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
July 6, 1989Between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, IsraelA member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad seized control of the steering wheel of a crowded bus enroute from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and drove the bus off a cliff in the area of Kiryat Ye'arim. 16 civilians were killed, including two Canadians and one American.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
December 1, 1993Jerusalem, IsraelYitzhak Weinstock, 19, whose family came from Los Angeles, CA, was killed in a drive-by shooting. Hamas took responsibility for the attack
October 9, 1994Ramallah, West BankNachshon Wachsman, 19, whose family came from New York, was kidnapped and then murdered by Hamas.
October 9, 1994Jerusalem, IsraelShooting attack on cafe-goers in Jerusalem. U.S. citizens Scot Doberstein and Eric Goldberg were injured.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
August 21, 1995Jerusalem, IsraelA bus bombing in Jerusalem by the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) killed four, including American Joan Davenny of New Haven, CT, and wounded more than 100. U.S. citizens injured: Chanoch Bleier, Judith Shulewitz, Bernard Batta.
September 9, 1995Ma'ale Michmash, IsraelAmerican killed: Unborn child of Mrs. Mara Frey of Chicago. Mara Frey was injured.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
February 23, 1997New York, USAA Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State building in New York, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."
July 30, 1997Jerusalem, IsraelTwo bombs detonated in Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda market, killing 15 persons, including a U.S. citizen and wounding 168 others, among them two U.S. citizens. The Izz-el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas' military wing, claimed responsibility for the attack. U.S. citizens killed: Mrs. Leah Stern of Passaic, NJ. U.S. citizens injured: Dov Dalin.
September 4, 1997Jerusalem, IsraelBombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens killed: Yael Botwin, 14, of Los Angeles and Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Diana Campuzano of New York, Abraham Mendelson of Los Angeles, CA, Greg Salzman of New Jersey, Stuart E. Hersh of Kiryat Arba, Israel, Michael Alzer, Abraham Elias, David Keinan, Daniel Miller of Boca Raton, FL, Noam Rozenman of Jerusalem, Jenny (Yocheved) Rubin of Los Angeles, CA. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
September 29, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on motorists. U.S. citizens injured: Avi Herman of Teaneck, NJ, Naomi Herman of Teaneck, NJ.
September 29, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on taxi passengers. U.S. citizens injured: Tuvia Grossman of Chicago, Todd Pollack of Norfolk, VA, Andrew Feibusch of New York.
October 4, 2000Bethlehem, West BankU.S. citizens injured: An unidentified American tourist.
October 5, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on a motorist. U.S. citizens injured: Rabbi Chaim Brovender of Brooklyn.
October 8, 2000Nablus, West BankThe bullet-ridden body of Rabbi Hillel Lieberman, a U.S. citizen from Brooklyn living in the Jewish settlement of Elon Moreh, was found at the entrance to the West Bank town of Nablus. Lieberman had headed there after hearing that Palestinians had desecrated the religious site, Joseph's Tomb. No organization claimed responsibility for the murder.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
And the list goes on and on and on


and so does the support for it by Humanity, Montelaciti, Penelope, Coyote and the rest of their unevolved ilk.
 
September 5, 1986Karachi, PakistanAbu Nidal members hijacked a Pan Am flight leaving Karachi, Pakistan bound for Frankfurt, Germany and New York with 379 passengers, including 89 Americans. The terrorists forced the plane to land in Larnaca, Cyprus, where they demanded the release of two Palestinians and a Briton jailed for the murder of three Israelis there in 1985. The terrorists killed 22 of the passengers, including two American citizens and wounded many others. They were caught and indicted by a Washington grand jury in 1991.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
July 6, 1989Between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, IsraelA member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad seized control of the steering wheel of a crowded bus enroute from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and drove the bus off a cliff in the area of Kiryat Ye'arim. 16 civilians were killed, including two Canadians and one American.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
December 1, 1993Jerusalem, IsraelYitzhak Weinstock, 19, whose family came from Los Angeles, CA, was killed in a drive-by shooting. Hamas took responsibility for the attack
October 9, 1994Ramallah, West BankNachshon Wachsman, 19, whose family came from New York, was kidnapped and then murdered by Hamas.
October 9, 1994Jerusalem, IsraelShooting attack on cafe-goers in Jerusalem. U.S. citizens Scot Doberstein and Eric Goldberg were injured.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
August 21, 1995Jerusalem, IsraelA bus bombing in Jerusalem by the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) killed four, including American Joan Davenny of New Haven, CT, and wounded more than 100. U.S. citizens injured: Chanoch Bleier, Judith Shulewitz, Bernard Batta.
September 9, 1995Ma'ale Michmash, IsraelAmerican killed: Unborn child of Mrs. Mara Frey of Chicago. Mara Frey was injured.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
February 23, 1997New York, USAA Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State building in New York, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."
July 30, 1997Jerusalem, IsraelTwo bombs detonated in Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda market, killing 15 persons, including a U.S. citizen and wounding 168 others, among them two U.S. citizens. The Izz-el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas' military wing, claimed responsibility for the attack. U.S. citizens killed: Mrs. Leah Stern of Passaic, NJ. U.S. citizens injured: Dov Dalin.
September 4, 1997Jerusalem, IsraelBombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens killed: Yael Botwin, 14, of Los Angeles and Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Diana Campuzano of New York, Abraham Mendelson of Los Angeles, CA, Greg Salzman of New Jersey, Stuart E. Hersh of Kiryat Arba, Israel, Michael Alzer, Abraham Elias, David Keinan, Daniel Miller of Boca Raton, FL, Noam Rozenman of Jerusalem, Jenny (Yocheved) Rubin of Los Angeles, CA. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
September 29, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on motorists. U.S. citizens injured: Avi Herman of Teaneck, NJ, Naomi Herman of Teaneck, NJ.
September 29, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on taxi passengers. U.S. citizens injured: Tuvia Grossman of Chicago, Todd Pollack of Norfolk, VA, Andrew Feibusch of New York.
October 4, 2000Bethlehem, West BankU.S. citizens injured: An unidentified American tourist.
October 5, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on a motorist. U.S. citizens injured: Rabbi Chaim Brovender of Brooklyn.
October 8, 2000Nablus, West BankThe bullet-ridden body of Rabbi Hillel Lieberman, a U.S. citizen from Brooklyn living in the Jewish settlement of Elon Moreh, was found at the entrance to the West Bank town of Nablus. Lieberman had headed there after hearing that Palestinians had desecrated the religious site, Joseph's Tomb. No organization claimed responsibility for the murder.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
And the list goes on and on and on


and so does the support for it by Humanity, Montelaciti, Penelope, Coyote and the rest of their unevolved ilk.

What a silly post...

"support" would suggest that I condone terrorist violence, any violence...

Show's what you know shit for brains!
 
September 5, 1986Karachi, PakistanAbu Nidal members hijacked a Pan Am flight leaving Karachi, Pakistan bound for Frankfurt, Germany and New York with 379 passengers, including 89 Americans. The terrorists forced the plane to land in Larnaca, Cyprus, where they demanded the release of two Palestinians and a Briton jailed for the murder of three Israelis there in 1985. The terrorists killed 22 of the passengers, including two American citizens and wounded many others. They were caught and indicted by a Washington grand jury in 1991.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
July 6, 1989Between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, IsraelA member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad seized control of the steering wheel of a crowded bus enroute from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and drove the bus off a cliff in the area of Kiryat Ye'arim. 16 civilians were killed, including two Canadians and one American.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
December 1, 1993Jerusalem, IsraelYitzhak Weinstock, 19, whose family came from Los Angeles, CA, was killed in a drive-by shooting. Hamas took responsibility for the attack
October 9, 1994Ramallah, West BankNachshon Wachsman, 19, whose family came from New York, was kidnapped and then murdered by Hamas.
October 9, 1994Jerusalem, IsraelShooting attack on cafe-goers in Jerusalem. U.S. citizens Scot Doberstein and Eric Goldberg were injured.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
August 21, 1995Jerusalem, IsraelA bus bombing in Jerusalem by the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) killed four, including American Joan Davenny of New Haven, CT, and wounded more than 100. U.S. citizens injured: Chanoch Bleier, Judith Shulewitz, Bernard Batta.
September 9, 1995Ma'ale Michmash, IsraelAmerican killed: Unborn child of Mrs. Mara Frey of Chicago. Mara Frey was injured.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
February 23, 1997New York, USAA Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State building in New York, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."
July 30, 1997Jerusalem, IsraelTwo bombs detonated in Jerusalem's Mahane Yehuda market, killing 15 persons, including a U.S. citizen and wounding 168 others, among them two U.S. citizens. The Izz-el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas' military wing, claimed responsibility for the attack. U.S. citizens killed: Mrs. Leah Stern of Passaic, NJ. U.S. citizens injured: Dov Dalin.
September 4, 1997Jerusalem, IsraelBombing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem. U.S. citizens killed: Yael Botwin, 14, of Los Angeles and Jerusalem. U.S. citizens injured: Diana Campuzano of New York, Abraham Mendelson of Los Angeles, CA, Greg Salzman of New Jersey, Stuart E. Hersh of Kiryat Arba, Israel, Michael Alzer, Abraham Elias, David Keinan, Daniel Miller of Boca Raton, FL, Noam Rozenman of Jerusalem, Jenny (Yocheved) Rubin of Los Angeles, CA. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
September 29, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on motorists. U.S. citizens injured: Avi Herman of Teaneck, NJ, Naomi Herman of Teaneck, NJ.
September 29, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on taxi passengers. U.S. citizens injured: Tuvia Grossman of Chicago, Todd Pollack of Norfolk, VA, Andrew Feibusch of New York.
October 4, 2000Bethlehem, West BankU.S. citizens injured: An unidentified American tourist.
October 5, 2000Jerusalem, IsraelAttack on a motorist. U.S. citizens injured: Rabbi Chaim Brovender of Brooklyn.
October 8, 2000Nablus, West BankThe bullet-ridden body of Rabbi Hillel Lieberman, a U.S. citizen from Brooklyn living in the Jewish settlement of Elon Moreh, was found at the entrance to the West Bank town of Nablus. Lieberman had headed there after hearing that Palestinians had desecrated the religious site, Joseph's Tomb. No organization claimed responsibility for the murder.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
And the list goes on and on and on


and so does the support for it by Humanity, Montelaciti, Penelope, Coyote and the rest of their unevolved ilk.

What support? Perhaps you can show me where I support this stuff.

Or....are you making up shit yet again Dogma?
 
What a silly post...

"support" would suggest that I condone terrorist violence, any violence...

Show's what you know shit for brains!

Ask him for links. You'll find he'll bloviate, flatulate, duck and dodge and then pretend you said things you never said. That has been his modus operendi.

If you support the Palestinian right to self determination then you defacto - and in contradiction to logic - support terrorism, genocide, hate Jews, want to see Israel destroyed and every Jew killed, support honor killing, child marriage, sexual slavery, a total prohibition of female rights and probably other stuff I can't think of. It's sort of a package deal and has nothing to do with what you've posted. If you question these labels, you will be considered an unevolved poopy pants.

Yes..Virginia...it's possible to support a people's right to self determination and a state without supporting terrorism.
 
The U.S. is very unusual. Most of the world is negative on Israel except a few Subsaharan African countries.




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Try again, douchebag, the topic of this thread isn't "what is worldwide opinion of Israel's influence". And stop derailing the thread.

OOppsss Title of thread "What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?"

The post is valid!

Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence, and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

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Try again, douchebag, the topic of this thread isn't "what is worldwide opinion of Israel's influence". And stop derailing the thread.

OOppsss Title of thread "What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?"

The post is valid!

Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

Israel represents what Apartheid South Africa represented, oppression and racism. There is no democracy that doesn't allow half of the people under its control to vote.
 
Try again, douchebag, the topic of this thread isn't "what is worldwide opinion of Israel's influence". And stop derailing the thread.

OOppsss Title of thread "What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?"

The post is valid!

Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!
 
What a silly post...

"support" would suggest that I condone terrorist violence, any violence...

Show's what you know shit for brains!

Ask him for links. You'll find he'll bloviate, flatulate, duck and dodge and then pretend you said things you never said. That has been his modus operendi.

There seems to be a lot of that around when the dog, roodboy, lippy et al are asked for links!

They all seem to disappear! :booze:
 
OOppsss Title of thread "What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?"

The post is valid!

Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!

Yes, lightbulb, just like most Americans don't know where Afghanistan or Iraq is, but they do know what the conflicts are about. Now tell us why all these "visits" to the mosques? Were you getting paid for your "services" to the mosque members?

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OOppsss Title of thread "What do normal people, think of the Palestinians?"

The post is valid!

Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

Israel represents what Apartheid South Africa represented, oppression and racism. There is no democracy that doesn't allow half of the people under its control to vote.

Wrong again. For apartheid you need to look at Islamic shitholes, like the animals want to create in the "Islamic Khalifate of Palestine":

Classification of Non-Muslims:
In his article, "The Ordinances of the People of the Covenant and the Minorities in an Islamic State," Sheikh Najih Ibrahim Ibn Abdullah remarks that legists classify non-Muslims or infidels into two categories: Dar-ul-Harb or the household of War, which refers to non-Muslims who are not bound by a peace treaty, or covenant, and whose blood and property are not protected by the law of vendetta or retaliation; and Dar-us-Salam or the household of Peace, which refers to those who fall into three classifications:

1)
Zimmis (those in custody) are non-Muslim subjects who live in Muslim countries and agree to pay the Jizya (tribute) in exchange for protection and safety, and to be subject to Islamic law. These enjoy a permanent covenant.


2)
People of the Hudna (truce) are those who sign a peace treaty with Muslims after being defeated in war. They agree to reside in their own land, yet to be subject to the legal jurisprudence of Islam like Zimmis, provided they do not wage war against Muslims.


3)
Musta'min (protected one) are persons who come to an Islamic country as messengers, merchants, visitors, or student wanting to learn about Islam. A Musta'min should not wage war against Muslims and he is not obliged to pay Jizya, but he would be urged to embrace Islam. If a Musta'min does not accept Islam, he is allowed to return safely to his own country. Muslims are forbidden to hurt him in any way. When he is back in his own homeland, he is treated as one who belongs to the Household of War.
This study will focus on the laws pertaining to Zimmis.

Islamic Law and Zimmis
Muslim Muftis (legal authorities) agree that the contract of the Zimmis should be offered primarily to the People of the Book, that is, Christians and Jews, then to the Magis or Zoroastrians. However, they disagree on whether any contract should be signed with other groups such as communists or atheists. TheHanbalites and the Shafi`ites believe that no contract should be made with the ungodly or those who do not believe in the supreme God. Hanifites and Malikites affirm that the Jizya may be accepted from all infidels regardless of their beliefs and faith in God. Abu Hanifa, however, did not want pagan Arabs to have this option because they are the people of the Prophet. They. must be given only two options: accept Islam or be killed.

Zimmis and Religious Practices
Muslims believe that the Zimmis are Mushrikun (polytheists) for they see the belief in the Trinity as belief in three gods. Islam is the only true religion, they claim. Therefore, to protect Muslims from corruption, especially against the unforgivable sin of shirk (polytheism), its practice is forbidden among Muslims, because it is considered the greatest abomination. When Christians practice it publicly, it becomes an enticement and exhortation to apostasy. It is significant here to notice that according to Muraghi, Zimmis and infidels are polytheists and therefore, must have the same treatment.

According to Muslim jurists, the following legal ordinances must be enforced on Zimmis (Christians and Jews alike) who reside among Muslims:

1)
Zimmis are not allowed to build new churches, temples, or synagogues. They are allowed to renovate old churches or houses of worship provided they do not allow to add any new construction. "Old churches" are those which existed prior to Islamic conquests and are included in a peace accord by Muslims. Construction of any church, temple, or synagogue in the Arab Peninsula (Saudi Arabia) is prohibited. It is the land of the Prophet and only Islam should prevail there. Yet, Muslims, if they wish, are permitted to demolish all non-Muslim houses of worship in any land they conquer.


2)
Zimmis are not allowed to pray or read their sacred books out loud at home or in churches, lest Muslims hear their prayers.


3)
Zimmis are not allowed to print their religious books or sell them in public places and markets. They are allowed to publish and sell them among their own people, in their churches and temples.


4)
Zimmis are not allowed to install the cross on their houses or churches since it is a symbol of infidelity.


5)
Zimmis are not permitted to broadcast or display their ceremonial religious rituals on radio or television or to use the media or to publish any picture of their religious ceremonies in newspaper and magazines.


6)
Zimmis are not allowed to congregate in the streets during their religious festivals; rather, each must quietly make his way to his church or temple.

7)
Zimmis are not allowed to join the army unless there is indispensable need for them in which case they are not allowed to assume leadership positions but are considered mercenaries.

Marriage and Children
A Muslim male can marry a Zimmi girl, but a Zimmi man is not allowed to marry a Muslim girl. If a woman embraces Islam and wants to get married, her non-Muslim father does not have the authority to give her away to her bridegroom. She must be given away by a Muslim guardian.

If one parent is a Muslim, children must be raised as Muslims. If the father is a Zimmi and his wife converts to Islam, she must get a divorce; then she will have the right of custody of her child. Some fundamentalist schools indicate that a Muslim husband has the right to confine his Zimmi wife to her home and restrain her from going to her own house of worship.


The Witness of Zimmis
Zimmis cannot testify against Muslims. They can only testify against other Zimmis or Musta'min. Their oaths are not considered valid in an Islamic court. According to the Shari`a, a Zimmi is not even qualified to be under oath. Muraghi states bluntly, "The testimony of a Zimmi is not accepted because Allah - may He be exalted - said: `God will not let the infidels (kafir) have an upper hand over the believers'." A Zimmi, regarded as an infidel, cannot testify against any Muslim regardless of his moral credibility. If a Zimmi has falsely accused another Zimmi and was once punished, his credibility and integrity is tarnished and his testimony is no longer acceptable. One serious implication of this is that if one Muslim has committed a serious offense against another, witnessed by Zimmis only, the court will have difficulty deciding the case since the testimonies of Zimmis are not acceptable. Yet, this same Zimmi whose integrity is blemished, if he converts to Islam, will have his testimony accepted against the Zimmis and Muslims alike, because according to the Shari`a, "By embracing Islam he has gained a new credibility which would enable him to witness..." All he has to do is to utter the Islamic confession of faithbefore witnesses, and that will elevate him from being an outcast to being a respected Muslim enjoying all the privileges of a devout Muslim.

Business World
The political arena and the official public sectors are not the only area in which non-Muslims are not allowed to assume a position of authority. A Muslim employee who works in a company inquires in a letter "if it is permissible for a Muslim owner (of a company) to confer authority on a Christian over other Muslims? (Al-Muslim Weekly; Vol. 8; issue No. 418; Friday 2, 5, 1993).

In response to this inquiry three eminent Muslim scholars issued their legal opinions:

Sheikh Manna` K. Al-Qubtan, professor of Higher studies at the School of Islamic Law in Riyadh, indicates that:

Basically, the command of non-Muslims over Muslims in not admissible, because God Almighty said: 'Allah will not give access to the infidels (i.e. Christians) to have authority over believers (Muslims) {Qur'an 4:141}. For God - Glory be to Him - has elevated Muslims to the highest rank (over all men) and foreordained to them the might, by virtue of the Qurtanic text in which God the Almighty said: 'Might and strength be to Allah, the Prophet (Muhammad) and the believers (Muslims) {Qur'an 63:8}.
Thus, the authority of non-Muslim over a Muslim is incompatible with these two verses, since the Muslim has to submit to and obey whoever is in charge over him. The Muslim, therefore becomes inferior to him, and this should not be the case with the Muslim.


Dr. Salih Al-Sadlan, professor of Shari`a at the School of Islamic Law, Riyadh, cites the same verses and asserts that it is not permissible for a infidel (in this case is a Christian) to be in charge over Muslims whether in the private or public sector. Such an act:

"entails the humiliaton of the Muslim and the exaltation of the infidel (Christian). This infidel may exploit his position to humiliate and insult the Muslims who work under his administration. It is advisable to the company owner to fear God Almighty and to authorize only a Muslim over the Muslims. Also, the injunctions issued by the ruler, provides that an infidel should not be in charge when there is a Muslim available to assume the command. Our advice to the company owner is to remove this infidel and to replace him with a Muslim."
In his response Dr. Fahd Al-`Usaymi, professor of Islamic studies at the Teachers' College in Riyadh, remarks that the Muslim owner of the company should seek a Muslim employee who is better than the Christian (manager), or equal to him or even less qualified but has the ability to be trained to obtain the same skill enjoyed by the Christian. It is not permissible for a Christian to be in charge of Muslims by the virtue of the general evidences which denote the superiority of the Muslim over others. Then he quotes (Qur'an 63:8) and also cites verse 22 of Chapter 58:

Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Apostle, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred.
`Usaymi claims that being under the authority of a Christian may force Muslims to flatter him and humiliate themselves to this infidel on the hope to obtain some of what he has. This is against the confirmed evidences. Then he alludes to the story of Umar Ibn Al-Khattab the second Caliph, who was displeased with one of his governors who appointed a Zimmi as a treasurer, and remarked: "Have the wombs of women become sterile that they gave birth only to this man?" Then `Usaymi adds:

Muslims should fear God in their Muslim brothers and train them... for honesty and fear of God are, originally, in the Muslim, contrary to the infidel (the Christian) who, originally, is dishonest and does not fear God.

 
Sorry Humanity, you missread the OP. Roughly translated it should read, "What do aging, overweight Fascists, Right-wing born-again Zionists and their wannabee Judaeophile followers, all force fed BS by Fox news and other Pro Zionist sites, think about the nebulous entity they call "Mooslims", with particular reference to 9/11 (because most of them need a clue as to why they should hate "Mooslims" and are too stupid to think for themselves). Nothing to see or do here, moving on.

That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!

Yes, lightbulb, just like most Americans don't know where Afghanistan or Iraq is, but they do know what the conflicts are about. Now tell us why all these "visits" to the mosques? Were you getting paid for your "services" to the mosque members?

israel-flag-o.gif

:drills: "It's for oil Bob"
:salute: "Nope it aint Bob, we gotta make room for more stars on our flag Bob"

Yeah MOST Americans know alright! :cuckoo:

And, WTF are you? The CIA? No? Then WHY I visit different places of worship is none of your goddamn business!

Suffice to say, I go with an open mind and open heart and LEARN.

Something that you can never do!
 
That's funny, according to mentally challenged Challenger, a majority of Americans that are strong supporters of Israel are crazy right wing brainwashed people.

Americans see Palestinians as a small part of a greater worldwide problem that modern civilization is having with Muslims.

True story dude. :clap2:

What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!

Yes, lightbulb, just like most Americans don't know where Afghanistan or Iraq is, but they do know what the conflicts are about. Now tell us why all these "visits" to the mosques? Were you getting paid for your "services" to the mosque members?

israel-flag-o.gif

:drills: "It's for oil Bob"
:salute: "Nope it aint Bob, we gotta make room for more stars on our flag Bob"

Yeah MOST Americans know alright! :cuckoo:

And, WTF are you? The CIA? No? Then WHY I visit different places of worship is none of your goddamn business!

Suffice to say, I go with an open mind and open heart and LEARN.

Something that you can never do!

Having a hard time absorbing the fact that overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel? Good. :laugh2:

Most Americans were against the Soviet Union, but they knew enough to know they were evil, moron. :anj_stfu:
 
The U.S. is very unusual. Most of the world is negative on Israel except a few Subsaharan African countries.
Apparently, when determining the views people take of a country, only the opinions of those of certain religions are considered to be valid views.

This came as something of a surprise to me but I guess what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

In fact, America is the perfect country to judge Palestinians and Israelis. Both the Jews and Muslims are insignificantly small minorities here, leaving the majority Christians free of undo influence by or fear of either. Add to that the facts that Americans have access to a wide range of media and historical sources and are about the finest peeps the world has ever known.
Now compare all that with a poll which asks Muslims what they think of Jews.
I doubt one such as you can see the diff in poll creds.
 
What IS funny is that most Americans wouldn't be able to Identify Israel on a map of the Middle East! :finger3:

They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!

Yes, lightbulb, just like most Americans don't know where Afghanistan or Iraq is, but they do know what the conflicts are about. Now tell us why all these "visits" to the mosques? Were you getting paid for your "services" to the mosque members?

israel-flag-o.gif

:drills: "It's for oil Bob"
:salute: "Nope it aint Bob, we gotta make room for more stars on our flag Bob"

Yeah MOST Americans know alright! :cuckoo:

And, WTF are you? The CIA? No? Then WHY I visit different places of worship is none of your goddamn business!

Suffice to say, I go with an open mind and open heart and LEARN.

Something that you can never do!

Having a hard time absorbing the fact that overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel? Good. :laugh2:

Most Americans were against the Soviet Union, but they knew enough to know they were evil, moron. :anj_stfu:

OMG Roodboy...

You are dumber than I thought, sorry to discover that!

I will take it easy on you in future, don't like to beat retards....

Whether the majority of Americans support Israel or not I really could care less....

The FACT is that the majority of Americans don't actually KNOW what its all about, that's the worrying thing (aside from your stupidity of course)!
 
They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!

Yes, lightbulb, just like most Americans don't know where Afghanistan or Iraq is, but they do know what the conflicts are about. Now tell us why all these "visits" to the mosques? Were you getting paid for your "services" to the mosque members?

israel-flag-o.gif

:drills: "It's for oil Bob"
:salute: "Nope it aint Bob, we gotta make room for more stars on our flag Bob"

Yeah MOST Americans know alright! :cuckoo:

And, WTF are you? The CIA? No? Then WHY I visit different places of worship is none of your goddamn business!

Suffice to say, I go with an open mind and open heart and LEARN.

Something that you can never do!

Having a hard time absorbing the fact that overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel? Good. :laugh2:

Most Americans were against the Soviet Union, but they knew enough to know they were evil, moron. :anj_stfu:

OMG Roodboy...

You are dumber than I thought, sorry to discover that!

I will take it easy on you in future, don't like to beat retards....

Whether the majority of Americans support Israel or not I really could care less....

The FACT is that the majority of Americans don't actually KNOW what its all about, that's the worrying thing (aside from your stupidity of course)!

Right. You don't care what Americans think, just what your fellow Muslims in those mosques think. Now you're going around insulting Americans just because they don't agree with your depraved terrorist loving anti semitic ideology. :cuckoo:
 
My next thread I will ask, "what do abnormal, insane, Muslim 'Americans' like Inhumanity, Montelatici, and co. think about Palestine" :dance:
 
The U.S. is very unusual. Most of the world is negative on Israel except a few Subsaharan African countries.
Apparently, when determining the views people take of a country, only the opinions of those of certain religions are considered to be valid views.

This came as something of a surprise to me but I guess what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

In fact, America is the perfect country to judge Palestinians and Israelis. Both the Jews and Muslims are insignificantly small minorities here, leaving the majority Christians free of undo influence by or fear of either. Add to that the facts that Americans have access to a wide range of media and historical sources and are about the finest peeps the world has ever known.
Now compare all that with a poll which asks Muslims what they think of Jews.
I doubt one such as you can see the diff in poll creds.

HAHAHA...

America is so NOT the perfect country to judge shit! They have proven that time and time again!

I wouldn't trust America to judge a baking competition!

Wide range of media? Fox News.... Yeah bring it on!!

"Historical sources" WTF? Have you been drinking? :booze:
 
The U.S. is very unusual. Most of the world is negative on Israel except a few Subsaharan African countries.
Apparently, when determining the views people take of a country, only the opinions of those of certain religions are considered to be valid views.

This came as something of a surprise to me but I guess what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

In fact, America is the perfect country to judge Palestinians and Israelis. Both the Jews and Muslims are insignificantly small minorities here, leaving the majority Christians free of undo influence by or fear of either. Add to that the facts that Americans have access to a wide range of media and historical sources and are about the finest peeps the world has ever known.
Now compare all that with a poll which asks Muslims what they think of Jews.
I doubt one such as you can see the diff in poll creds.

HAHAHA...

America is so NOT the perfect country to judge shit! They have proven that time and time again!

I wouldn't trust America to judge a baking competition!

Wide range of media? Fox News.... Yeah bring it on!!

"Historical sources" WTF? Have you been drinking? :booze:

Seems like somebody can't stand the fact that America stands shoulder to shoulder with Israel.

Now repeat after me, convert: God...Bless...America!

American-Israel-Falg.jpg
 
They don't need to know where a place is located to know what the conflict is really about, and who the players are.

Israel represents freedom, democracy, Western values and coexistence and Palestinians represent Islamism and Muslim intolerance and terroristic violence.

israel-flag-o.gif

HAHAHA.... Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that Americans KNOW what the conflict is about when they have not a CLUE where Israel is?

You need to go spin that yarn to someone else Roodboy!

Yes, lightbulb, just like most Americans don't know where Afghanistan or Iraq is, but they do know what the conflicts are about. Now tell us why all these "visits" to the mosques? Were you getting paid for your "services" to the mosque members?

israel-flag-o.gif

:drills: "It's for oil Bob"
:salute: "Nope it aint Bob, we gotta make room for more stars on our flag Bob"

Yeah MOST Americans know alright! :cuckoo:

And, WTF are you? The CIA? No? Then WHY I visit different places of worship is none of your goddamn business!

Suffice to say, I go with an open mind and open heart and LEARN.

Something that you can never do!

Having a hard time absorbing the fact that overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel? Good. :laugh2:

Most Americans were against the Soviet Union, but they knew enough to know they were evil, moron. :anj_stfu:

OMG Roodboy...

You are dumber than I thought, sorry to discover that!

I will take it easy on you in future, don't like to beat retards....

Whether the majority of Americans support Israel or not I really could care less....

The FACT is that the majority of Americans don't actually KNOW what its all about, that's the worrying thing (aside from your stupidity of course)!

So you reject American opinion but have complete "faith" in a poll which asks Muslims how they feel about Israel? How convenient for you, Ilsa. Illiteracy is epidemic in the Arab/Muslim Mideast where ignorance is culturally mandated and eagerly embraced, where the media is state/mosque run, and where Islamist goons are the law of the land. And you expect any knowledgeable poster to take your drivel seriously? Successive UN sponsored but Mideast Arab authored State of the Arab/Muslim World reports all said about the same thing: 350 million people live under the oppressive, modernity-rejecting, enforced-ignorance, misogynistic yoke of Islamic culture. You have surrendered your thoughtful poster card and are furthermore relegated to the MORON pile. Thanks for playing.
:lmao:
 

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