What it Will Precisely Take for Either Biden or Trump to Win the Election

[WelfareQueen]

I have looked closely at the polling and understand exactly where the Election currently stands and what it will take for either Biden or Trump to win. It now boils down to five States.

If Trump wins Georgia and Arizona (Trump is up 4% in Georgia and 5.4% in Arizona per the real clear politics average) Biden must win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Period. That is the Election.

Right now, Trump is outside the margin of error in Arizona and Georgia. He is up 5.3% in Pennsylvania, again, outside the margin of error. Trump is up 2.6% in Wisconsin, and he is up .6% in Michigan. These two States are within the margin of error. Interestingly, Kamala Harris polls much worse in those rust belt States than Biden. If she becomes the Dem nominee the Election appears to be over. Biden must somehow draw an inside straight to win the Election as it currently stands.

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Keep in mind, the National polling average is critically important because it shows where the overall Election is tilted. Trump is up 3% nationally, which means there is more momentum to Trump. For example, Biden was up 4% Nationally right before the Election and he easily won the popular vote. Hillary was up 2% Nationally right before the election and barely won the popular vote but lost the Election.

Bottom line: The Dems are not lying about this one thing. Their Election chances look poor right now. With Kamala they look even worse. Can Biden win? Sure, but like I said, he will need to draw an inside straight or somehow pull off some major cheating in those 3 Rust belt States.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

What it Will Precisely Take for Either Biden or Trump to Win the Election​

Voters?​

 

[Oddball]

Trump: a clean election. *chortle *

Pedo Peter: cheating by at least 10 million more votes that 2020.

 

[WinterBorn]

Voters?​

Especially the most electoral votes.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Especially the most electoral votes.

That is usually a red herring.

How many times has the electoral college differed from the popular vote?
It is possible to win the Electoral College but lose the popular vote. This happened in 2016, 2000, and three times in the 1800s.

and

5 Presidents Who Lost the Popular Vote But Won the Election | HISTORY

These presidential candidates didn't need to secure more popular votes to win election, due to the Electoral College system.

www.history.com

 

[wamose]

Trump will be a great President. Biden never even made it to be a shitty President. He was the worst ever. I guess that's why Obama never revealed himself to be the puppet master. So, the choice should be pretty easy for anyone but the most brainwashed liberals. MAGA

 

[kyzr]

I have looked closely at the polling and understand exactly where the Election currently stands and what it will take for either Biden or Trump to win. It now boils down to five States.

If Trump wins Georgia and Arizona (Trump is up 4% in Georgia and 5.4% in Arizona per the real clear politics average) Biden must win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Period. That is the Election.

Right now, Trump is outside the margin of error in Arizona and Georgia. He is up 5.3% in Pennsylvania, again, outside the margin of error. Trump is up 2.6% in Wisconsin, and he is up .6% in Michigan. These two States are within the margin of error. Interestingly, Kamala Harris polls much worse in those rust belt States than Biden. If she becomes the Dem nominee the Election appears to be over. Biden must somehow draw an inside straight to win the Election as it currently stands.

Keep in mind, the National polling average is critically important because it shows where the overall Election is tilted. Trump is up 3% nationally, which means there is more momentum to Trump. For example, Biden was up 4% Nationally right before the Election and he easily won the popular vote. Hillary was up 2% Nationally right before the election and barely won the popular vote but lost the Election.

Bottom line: The Dems are not lying about this one thing. Their Election chances look poor right now. With Kamala they look even worse. Can Biden win? Sure, but like I said, he will need to draw an inside straight or somehow pull off some major cheating in those 3 Rust belt States.

If Trump wins GA and AZ he has 262 Trump needs ONE of PA, MI, or WI. You can also look at NV + NH, or VA.

Trump does not need all three of PA, MI, and WI.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

If there is no mass mail in and drop box voter fraud Trump wins in a landslide.
The demscum will try to steal another election. That’s what they do. If republicans can’t stop it or expose it will be another shitshow.

 

[WelfareQueen]

If Trump wins GA and AZ he has 262 Trump needs ONE of PA, MI, or WI. You can also look at NV + NH, or VA.

Trump does not need all three of PA, MI, and WI.

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Yes, you are correct. Trump needs just one of the three rust belt States. Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. Biden will need to win all three to have a chance. Also, if Biden loses either Virginia or Minnesota it is over.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump will have to win huge in battle ground states just to overcome the Dem cheating.

 

[Foxfyre]

I have looked closely at the polling and understand exactly where the Election currently stands and what it will take for either Biden or Trump to win. It now boils down to five States.

If Trump wins Georgia and Arizona (Trump is up 4% in Georgia and 5.4% in Arizona per the real clear politics average) Biden must win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Period. That is the Election.

Right now, Trump is outside the margin of error in Arizona and Georgia. He is up 5.3% in Pennsylvania, again, outside the margin of error. Trump is up 2.6% in Wisconsin, and he is up .6% in Michigan. These two States are within the margin of error. Interestingly, Kamala Harris polls much worse in those rust belt States than Biden. If she becomes the Dem nominee the Election appears to be over. Biden must somehow draw an inside straight to win the Election as it currently stands.

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RealClearPolitics (RCP) is an independent, non-partisan media company that is the trusted source for the best news, analysis and commentary.

www.realclearpolitics.com

Keep in mind, the National polling average is critically important because it shows where the overall Election is tilted. Trump is up 3% nationally, which means there is more momentum to Trump. For example, Biden was up 4% Nationally right before the Election and he easily won the popular vote. Hillary was up 2% Nationally right before the election and barely won the popular vote but lost the Election.

Bottom line: The Dems are not lying about this one thing. Their Election chances look poor right now. With Kamala they look even worse. Can Biden win? Sure, but like I said, he will need to draw an inside straight or somehow pull off some major cheating in those 3 Rust belt States.

I don't pretend to have a crystal ball of how it will all shake out. If the election was this coming Tuesday, it would be a good thing but the Democrats have almost four months left to pull out all the stops and manipulate the system as much as they dare do that. Who knows what national events will transpire between now and November 5 and how will the voting public respond? Will the states find some excuse to set aside their voting laws again so they can cheat at will with impunity? The GOP did what they could to protect the honest voters but obviously the Democrats won't allow any tightening of the process to happen.

I'll take a GOP win wherever we can get one, but what I want is a landslide so convincing we won't have to listen to the Democrats complain about the electoral college or whatever for the next four years. Will that happen? I don't know. But after the experience of 2020, I do know polling in July is not all that reassuring. At least not yet.

But I hope.

 

[WelfareQueen]

I don't pretend to have a crystal ball of how it will all shake out. If the election was this coming Tuesday, it would be a good thing but the Democrats have almost four months left to pull out all the stops and manipulate the system as much as they dare do that. Who knows what national events will transpire between now and November 5 and how will the voting public respond? Will the states find some excuse to set aside their voting laws again so they can cheat at will with impunity? The GOP did what they could to protect the honest voters but obviously the Democrats won't allow any tightening of the process to happen.

I'll take a GOP win wherever we can get one, but what I want is a landslide so convincing we won't have to listen to the Democrats complain about the electoral college or whatever for the next four years. Will that happen? I don't know. But after the experience of 2020, I do know polling in July is not all that reassuring. At least not yet.

But I hope.

I hear you and don't disagree. A lot can happen over the next 4 months. However, I think perceptions of of both Trump and Biden are baked in the cake. I don't see them changing substantially. The issue of cheating is out there, but that card has already been played. I think it will much harder this time around.

If the Election were held today Trump wins easily. We'll see how it is closer to the Election.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Belongs in Election 2024

 

[protectionist]

With each passing poll, the gap between Trump and Biden gets wider & wider. Now it's up to almost 10 points in some polls.

The gap favoring Biden for New York's 29 electoral votes, has plummeted, making New York now a swing state. No longer a given for Biden, Trump has narrowed the gap to within striking range.

Trump could win New York.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/mike-lawler-newsmax-new-york/2024/07/12/id/1172353/?ns_mail_uid=f2b3786c-e1eb-48d4-a5ba-7a57aaf9e4f5&ns_mail_job=DM651571_07132024&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502o4h9mn

 

[WelfareQueen]

New polling regarding Kamala Harris is out in the three swing states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) the Dems must win in order to secure the Election. The bottom Line: It looks real, real, bad. Harris has between 52-55% of voters saying they have a very or somewhat unfavorable view of her. Roughly 40% of the voters in each State do not want her to replace Biden on the ticket.

If the Dem elites and the corporate media succeed in getting rid of Biden, Harris appears to be a much worse alternative. Do the Dems (the Party of Identity Politics) dare pass over Kamala?

Foxfyre I thought you might be interested in this information.

Kamala Harris chances of winning in 3 critical swing states: Polls

After President Joe Biden's poor debate performance against Donald Trump, some Democrats are looking to Harris to potentially lead the presidential ticket.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Foxfyre]

New polling regarding Kamala Harris is out in the three swing states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) the Dems must win in order to secure the Election. The bottom Line: It looks real, real, bad. Harris has between 52-55% of voters saying they have a very or somewhat unfavorable view of her. Roughly 40% of the voters in each State do not want her to replace Biden on the ticket.

If the Dem elites and the corporate media succeed in getting rid of Biden, Harris appears to be a much worse alternative. Do the Dems (the Party of Identity Politics) dare pass over Kamala?

Foxfyre I thought you might be interested in this information.

Kamala Harris chances of winning in 3 critical swing states: Polls

After President Joe Biden's poor debate performance against Donald Trump, some Democrats are looking to Harris to potentially lead the presidential ticket.

www.newsweek.com

Yep, they're between a rock and a hard place. They either disenfranchise Democrat voters in 50 states, DC and the territories entirely by denying them the candidate they voted for, or they allow the VP, their worst nightmare, take over, or they throw their own rulebook out the window and write another one really really fast. As this bunch cares far more about their own power and personal fortunes than they care about any Americans, I don't know what they will ultimately do. All I hope is they can't find enough ways to cheat to win the election in spite of all this.