What were the founders thinking?

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What kind of a country would America have if it allowed average people to control the government? Yes, they taught us in school that here the people have the final word, which is what the founders intended, but those founders were ignorant backcountry folk who probably did not even brush their teeth. There were no Harvard and Yale law schools in the days of the founders and that was long before Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson played the wild cards of the New Deal and Great Society.

Governments are always comprised of special humans who gravitate to control other humans and get rich and powerful in the process. Did our founders not know that? It had been going on since the beginning with civilizations dying by the same suicide. Maybe they did know it and wanted to try a different way, but the people actually steering the government? What fools! The world laughed at them.

Now, at last, the government got rid of that pesky Donald Trump who was running around saying the people had a right to decide how their country was run. The people deduced that the Great Society had failed with generational poverty and crime plaguing the recipients of its gifts. Those Harvard and Yale graduates came up with an escape hatch to protect their gold-blame the white people! It worked for the Nazis when Jews were busy doing all right back in the day.

Now instead of measuring Jewish heads and calling them children of the Devil, Harvard and Yale came up with Black Lives Matter and Critical Race theory labeling Caucasian’s destroyers of the world! Just like in Germany the government escapes all its bad decisions by blaming an ethnic group and history repeats itself or as Yogi Berra said: “it’s déjà vu all over again”.

People controlling government? Not on Harvard and Yale’s watch! They had no choice but to step in and stuff ballot boxes with forklifts and semitrucks so they could show insolent voters you can’t beat city hall! The people just did not have Harvard and Yale educations and would not vote cooperatively.

Those stupid founders would have ruined everything if the people followed their advice and of course the corporate wallets of all those Harvard and Yale graduates would have become thinner as a returning middle class picked their pockets.

Now Confucius laughs as Joe Biden defies gravity and falls up Air Force One like a broken toy.
 
Now Confucius laughs as Joe Biden defies gravity and falls up Air Force One like a broken toy.

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What kind of a country would America have if it allowed average people to control the government? Yes, they taught us in school that here the people have the final word, which is what the founders intended, but those founders were ignorant backcountry folk who probably did not even brush their teeth. There were no Harvard and Yale law schools in the days of the founders and that was long before Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson played the wild cards of the New Deal and Great Society.

Governments are always comprised of special humans who gravitate to control other humans and get rich and powerful in the process. Did our founders not know that? It had been going on since the beginning with civilizations dying by the same suicide. Maybe they did know it and wanted to try a different way, but the people actually steering the government? What fools! The world laughed at them.

Now, at last, the government got rid of that pesky Donald Trump who was running around saying the people had a right to decide how their country was run. The people deduced that the Great Society had failed with generational poverty and crime plaguing the recipients of its gifts. Those Harvard and Yale graduates came up with an escape hatch to protect their gold-blame the white people! It worked for the Nazis when Jews were busy doing all right back in the day.

Now instead of measuring Jewish heads and calling them children of the Devil, Harvard and Yale came up with Black Lives Matter and Critical Race theory labeling Caucasian’s destroyers of the world! Just like in Germany the government escapes all its bad decisions by blaming an ethnic group and history repeats itself or as Yogi Berra said: “it’s déjà vu all over again”.

People controlling government? Not on Harvard and Yale’s watch! They had no choice but to step in and stuff ballot boxes with forklifts and semitrucks so they could show insolent voters you can’t beat city hall! The people just did not have Harvard and Yale educations and would not vote cooperatively.

Those stupid founders would have ruined everything if the people followed their advice and of course the corporate wallets of all those Harvard and Yale graduates would have become thinner as a returning middle class picked their pockets.

Now Confucius laughs as Joe Biden defies gravity and falls up Air Force One like a broken toy.

If the founders were alive today, they'd be saying, oh well, at least 200 years was a pretty good run before it all fell apart
 
Harvard existed at our Founding....it actually had been around over a 100 years by then...it was founded in 1636....and actually John Adams, Sam Adams, and John Hancock went there.

Yale was around at our Founding as well, it was established in 1701

Madison went to Princeton.

Hamilton and John Jay went to Columbia...

Those are just a few I thought of that went to what is now Ivy League schools.

A number of them went to William and Mary, which is now a public school in VA
 
What kind of a country would America have if it allowed average people to control the government? Yes, they taught us in school that here the people have the final word, which is what the founders intended, but those founders were ignorant backcountry folk who probably did not even brush their teeth.
The founders were not counting on treasonous scum like the current Dem party.
If the founders were alive today, they'd be saying, oh well, at least 200 years was a pretty good run before it all fell apart
No, no, no. . .

Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government that has been compounded by miscalculated adjustments over the course of two hundred and fifty years. The revered founders would certainly not insist that their design is working as our civics studies lead us to believe. Perpetual corruption and social discontent indicate that the mission to deliver domestic tranquility has obviously been adverted and excused by political showmen, legal opportunists, and dim witted patriots.

Ask any mediocre law student and they will confirm that the founders’ proclivity would be very welcoming to consider a reformulation of the government.

Let us not disappoint them any longer.

The three-part separation theory for government is inadequately deployed, and subsequently, the balance of power is not balanced, and the checks on power can not work correctly. The “checks and balances” theory is a valid theory, but it is directly dependent on the integrity of the separation of government entities.

The irregular arrangement of the government skews the deliberation of the social issues, and that causes the partisan chaos that then trickles down causing the social disorder that we endure, . . . and then that cycles back in the agendas of the election campaigns; and thus, defines the boundaries of the proverbial box. The politicians are not corrupt, or misguided because they are not following the constitutions; they are corrupt, or misguided, because the checks and balances do not work. If the balance and checks on power worked, then we would not endure corruption, partisan cover-up, and the subsequent contentious economic debate that is very similar to the debate about religion that the American colonists argued - whose thinking processes are valid?

The American charter system was established within a relatively simpler and much less diverse society, and the government subsystems are not detailed and coordinated for the advanced sophisticated society that has evolved.
 
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Harvard existed at our Founding....it actually had been around over a 100 years by then...it was founded in 1636....and actually John Adams, Sam Adams, and John Hancock went there.

Yale was around at our Founding as well, it was established in 1701

Madison went to Princeton.

Hamilton and John Jay went to Columbia...

Those are just a few I thought of that went to what is now Ivy League schools.

A number of them went to William and Mary, which is now a public school in VA

There were nine schools at the time of the Revolution.

Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Columbia
Princeton
Penn
Rutgers
William and Mary.

At the time, Columbia was "King" College and Rutgers was "Queen" College. They were renamed afterwards to eliminate the association with the monarchy. Columbia then was at the southern end of Manhattan
 
What kind of a country would America have if it allowed average people to control the government? Yes, they taught us in school that here the people have the final word, which is what the founders intended, but those founders were ignorant backcountry folk who probably did not even brush their teeth. There were no Harvard and Yale law schools in the days of the founders and that was long before Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson played the wild cards of the New Deal and Great Society.

Governments are always comprised of special humans who gravitate to control other humans and get rich and powerful in the process. Did our founders not know that? It had been going on since the beginning with civilizations dying by the same suicide. Maybe they did know it and wanted to try a different way, but the people actually steering the government? What fools! The world laughed at them.

Now, at last, the government got rid of that pesky Donald Trump who was running around saying the people had a right to decide how their country was run. The people deduced that the Great Society had failed with generational poverty and crime plaguing the recipients of its gifts. Those Harvard and Yale graduates came up with an escape hatch to protect their gold-blame the white people! It worked for the Nazis when Jews were busy doing all right back in the day.

Now instead of measuring Jewish heads and calling them children of the Devil, Harvard and Yale came up with Black Lives Matter and Critical Race theory labeling Caucasian’s destroyers of the world! Just like in Germany the government escapes all its bad decisions by blaming an ethnic group and history repeats itself or as Yogi Berra said: “it’s déjà vu all over again”.

People controlling government? Not on Harvard and Yale’s watch! They had no choice but to step in and stuff ballot boxes with forklifts and semitrucks so they could show insolent voters you can’t beat city hall! The people just did not have Harvard and Yale educations and would not vote cooperatively.

Those stupid founders would have ruined everything if the people followed their advice and of course the corporate wallets of all those Harvard and Yale graduates would have become thinner as a returning middle class picked their pockets.

Now Confucius laughs as Joe Biden defies gravity and falls up Air Force One like a broken toy.

If the founders were alive today, they'd be saying, oh well, at least 200 years was a pretty good run before it all fell apart

If the founders were alive today they would be zombies...but all kidding aside, they would be executing usurpers in the Dem party.
 
Harvard existed at our Founding....it actually had been around over a 100 years by then...it was founded in 1636....and actually John Adams, Sam Adams, and John Hancock went there.

Yale was around at our Founding as well, it was established in 1701

Madison went to Princeton.

Hamilton and John Jay went to Columbia...

Those are just a few I thought of that went to what is now Ivy League schools.

A number of them went to William and Mary, which is now a public school in VA

There were nine schools at the time of the Revolution.

Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Columbia
Princeton
Penn
Rutgers
William and Mary.

At the time, Columbia was "King" College and Rutgers was "Queen" College. They were renamed afterwards to eliminate the association with the monarchy. Columbia then was at the southern end of Manhattan
you sure Robert E. Lee elementary school wasn't around at the time of the revolution?
 
Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government that has been compounded by miscalculated adjustments over the course of two hundred and fifty years. The revered founders would certainly not insist that their design is working as our civics studies lead us to believe. Perpetual corruption and social discontent indicate that the mission to deliver domestic tranquility has obviously been adverted and excused by political showmen, legal opportunists, and dim witted patriots.

Ask any mediocre law student and they will confirm that the founders’ proclivity would be very welcoming to consider a reformulation of the government.

Let us not disappoint them any longer.
if it isnt working why are all those migrants at the border praying to get entrance...not much illegal immigrants trying to get into cuba, venezuela or any other socialist utopia
 
Contrary to the popular rhetoric, the founders of the United States are not turning in their graves because of the misuse of the Constitution, but rather, because of the continued exercise of their inadequate formulation of the government that has been compounded by miscalculated adjustments over the course of two hundred and fifty years. The revered founders would certainly not insist that their design is working as our civics studies lead us to believe. Perpetual corruption and social discontent indicate that the mission to deliver domestic tranquility has obviously been adverted and excused by political showmen, legal opportunists, and dim witted patriots.

Ask any mediocre law student and they will confirm that the founders’ proclivity would be very welcoming to consider a reformulation of the government.

Let us not disappoint them any longer.
if it isnt working why are all those migrants at the border praying to get entrance...not much illegal immigrants trying to get into cuba, venezuela or any other socialist utopia
Because none of the other countries had a democratic party debate where all candidates raised their hand when asked if there should be free health care for illegal immigrants.
 
Harvard existed at our Founding....it actually had been around over a 100 years by then...it was founded in 1636....and actually John Adams, Sam Adams, and John Hancock went there.

Yale was around at our Founding as well, it was established in 1701

Madison went to Princeton.

Hamilton and John Jay went to Columbia...

Those are just a few I thought of that went to what is now Ivy League schools.

A number of them went to William and Mary, which is now a public school in VA

There were nine schools at the time of the Revolution.

Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Columbia
Princeton
Penn
Rutgers
William and Mary.

At the time, Columbia was "King" College and Rutgers was "Queen" College. They were renamed afterwards to eliminate the association with the monarchy. Columbia then was at the southern end of Manhattan
I believe Princton was called like the NJ School or something, and UPenn was called something different as well...but were renamed too.
 
Harvard existed at our Founding....it actually had been around over a 100 years by then...it was founded in 1636....and actually John Adams, Sam Adams, and John Hancock went there.

Yale was around at our Founding as well, it was established in 1701

Madison went to Princeton.

Hamilton and John Jay went to Columbia...

Those are just a few I thought of that went to what is now Ivy League schools.

A number of them went to William and Mary, which is now a public school in VA
Law schools: Law school in the United States - Wikipedia
 
The Founders were the upper crust of the colony, the dudes with the dough and the right family to get you to leadership positions.
 
What kind of a country would America have if it allowed average people to control the government? Yes, they taught us in school that here the people have the final word, which is what the founders intended, but those founders were ignorant backcountry folk who probably did not even brush their teeth. There were no Harvard and Yale law schools in the days of the founders and that was long before Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson played the wild cards of the New Deal and Great Society.

Governments are always comprised of special humans who gravitate to control other humans and get rich and powerful in the process. Did our founders not know that? It had been going on since the beginning with civilizations dying by the same suicide. Maybe they did know it and wanted to try a different way, but the people actually steering the government? What fools! The world laughed at them.

Now, at last, the government got rid of that pesky Donald Trump who was running around saying the people had a right to decide how their country was run. The people deduced that the Great Society had failed with generational poverty and crime plaguing the recipients of its gifts. Those Harvard and Yale graduates came up with an escape hatch to protect their gold-blame the white people! It worked for the Nazis when Jews were busy doing all right back in the day.

Now instead of measuring Jewish heads and calling them children of the Devil, Harvard and Yale came up with Black Lives Matter and Critical Race theory labeling Caucasian’s destroyers of the world! Just like in Germany the government escapes all its bad decisions by blaming an ethnic group and history repeats itself or as Yogi Berra said: “it’s déjà vu all over again”.

People controlling government? Not on Harvard and Yale’s watch! They had no choice but to step in and stuff ballot boxes with forklifts and semitrucks so they could show insolent voters you can’t beat city hall! The people just did not have Harvard and Yale educations and would not vote cooperatively.

Those stupid founders would have ruined everything if the people followed their advice and of course the corporate wallets of all those Harvard and Yale graduates would have become thinner as a returning middle class picked their pockets.

Now Confucius laughs as Joe Biden defies gravity and falls up Air Force One like a broken toy.

The founding fathers were self-made men who read and wrote extensively since reading and writing were the only modes of communication over any distance farther than the sound of a voice could carry.

By the way, I'm sure the founders were aware of Harvard since it was established in 1636. Consequently, the university had been in existence for over a hundred years by the time the revolution was underway.

By the way, my bet is the founding fathers would have been smart enough to check their facts before posting something so glaringly stupid. But checking facts is not the conservative way, is it?

By the way, Yale was founded in 1701!
 
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Harvard existed at our Founding....it actually had been around over a 100 years by then...it was founded in 1636....and actually John Adams, Sam Adams, and John Hancock went there.

Yale was around at our Founding as well, it was established in 1701

Madison went to Princeton.

Hamilton and John Jay went to Columbia...

Those are just a few I thought of that went to what is now Ivy League schools.

A number of them went to William and Mary, which is now a public school in VA

There were nine schools at the time of the Revolution.

Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Columbia
Princeton
Penn
Rutgers
William and Mary.

At the time, Columbia was "King" College and Rutgers was "Queen" College. They were renamed afterwards to eliminate the association with the monarchy. Columbia then was at the southern end of Manhattan
I believe Princton was called like the NJ School or something, and UPenn was called something different as well...but were renamed too.

New Jersey was the only State with two colleges
 

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