“When people condemn Zionists, they mean Jews. You’re talking antisemites.”

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Any idea who said this? (Answer at end of post.)

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists,” they are lying. It’s a way, they think, to curse and condemn Jews without saying the word, and thus they think they are getting away with their antisemitism. They are wrong. Zionists are people (Jews and Christians alike) who believe that Jews have the right to self-determination.

- They know that Jews are indigenous to Israel, way before Islam existed, dating back 3500 years, until they were expelled by Rome.

- They know, given the hate and violence against Jews for 2,000 years, that Jews need the safe harbor of self-determination.

- They understand that the shrieks of “to the river from the sea” means the destruction of Israel and her Jews.

- They know that Jews have the right to defend themselves from evil forces who want to wipe them out, be it Iran or Hamas or any other Islamic terrorists.


Answer: MLK
 
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AOC's base: Who? Is he a rapper?
Also AOC’s base:

What century did the Civil War occur? “Don’t know.”
What does Memorial Day commemorate: “Uh….start of summer break?”
What is 6 x 7? “Wait. Let me get my calculator.”
Why are you on the side of Jew-hating Palestinians who cheered when they heard of the Oct 7 massacre?” “Uh….because it’s a chance for me to display my antisemitism, or my ignorance.”
 
Sometimes words mean just what they are.....I'm not big on adding other meanings onto them to suit a personal agenda.

I'm not Jewish but I guess I'm a Zionist by definition. :dunno:


Data from Oxford Languages

Zi·on·ist

[ˈzīənəst]
noun
  1. a supporter of Zionism; a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel:


 
Any idea who said this? (Answer at end of post.)

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists,” they are lying. It’s a way, they think, to curse and condemn Jews without saying the word, and thus they think they are getting away with their antisemitism. They are wrong. Zionists are people (Jews and Christians alike) who believe that Jews have the right to self-determination.

Um, okay, MLK was wrong. MLK has the problem a lot of Christians had after WWII, feeling really sad about the Holocaust and being willing to overlook Israel's colonialists policies. He probably SHOULD have known better, given the black experience in the US.

But again, 1967 was a different time. Now we know better.

- They know that Jews are indigenous to Israel, way before Islam existed, dating back 3500 years, until they were expelled by Rome.

And this is where your logic falls apart. The Zionists are a bunch of Europeans, who had no interest in moving to Palestine before 1945.

- They know, given the hate and violence against Jews for 2,000 years, that Jews need the safe harbor of self-determination.

Why? Your inability to live in peace with other white people without pissing them off is why you should get someone else's land?

There are a whole bunch of groups that have suffered violence over the last 2000 years. The Basque, the Kurds, the Sinti, the Roma. Why do the Jews get special consideration?

The underlying LIE of Zionism is "A Land without a people for a people without a land!" Except there were people on that land. They had been there for centuries. They are still there and they are fighting back.

- They understand that the shrieks of “to the river from the sea” means the destruction of Israel and her Jews.

Or they can go back to Europe, where they came from.

If America is so keen on a Jewish State, we should give them one of ours. We have more than a few Red States barely anyone lives in, if this is such a laudable goal, we should put our money where our mouths are.

You know, instead of just blindly going along with a genocide.


- They know that Jews have the right to defend themselves from evil forces who want to wipe them out, be it Iran or Hamas or any other Islamic terrorists.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let's leave aside whether or not the Palestinians have a good reason to want to kill the Zionists.

The fact that they do want to kill the Zionists should be a good reason to want to live somewhere else.

If my neighbors came up to me tomorrow and said, "Joe, we really don't like you and we're going to strap bombs onto our kids to try to kill you", I'd move. Seriously.

What I wouldn't do is set up a sniper's nest on my balcony and start picking off the neighbor's kids because they MIGHT have a bomb strapped to them. That would only make matters worse.
 
The left hates Israel and the Jews that support Israel.

If you a Jewish person who denounces Israel - they will leave you alone.

I wish the left hated Israel.

But the Democrats have sold out to the Zionist Lobby as badly as the Right has. And given Democrats still end up getting about 70% of the Jewish vote, you could even argue it was worth it.

(Although one could also argue that Harris' fecklessness on Palestinian Gencoide probably cost her votes in a lot of swing states where people couldn't be bothered to show up.)
 
Um, okay, MLK was wrong. MLK has the problem a lot of Christians had after WWII, feeling really sad about the Holocaust and being willing to overlook Israel's colonialists policies. He probably SHOULD have known better, given the black experience in the US.

But again, 1967 was a different time. Now we know better.



And this is where your logic falls apart. The Zionists are a bunch of Europeans, who had no interest in moving to Palestine before 1945.



Why? Your inability to live in peace with other white people without pissing them off is why you should get someone else's land?

There are a whole bunch of groups that have suffered violence over the last 2000 years. The Basque, the Kurds, the Sinti, the Roma. Why do the Jews get special consideration?

The underlying LIE of Zionism is "A Land without a people for a people without a land!" Except there were people on that land. They had been there for centuries. They are still there and they are fighting back.



Or they can go back to Europe, where they came from.

If America is so keen on a Jewish State, we should give them one of ours. We have more than a few Red States barely anyone lives in, if this is such a laudable goal, we should put our money where our mouths are.

You know, instead of just blindly going along with a genocide.




One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Let's leave aside whether or not the Palestinians have a good reason to want to kill the Zionists.

The fact that they do want to kill the Zionists should be a good reason to want to live somewhere else.

If my neighbors came up to me tomorrow and said, "Joe, we really don't like you and we're going to strap bombs onto our kids to try to kill you", I'd move. Seriously.

What I wouldn't do is set up a sniper's nest on my balcony and start picking off the neighbor's kids because they MIGHT have a bomb strapped to them. That would only make matters worse.

RACIST
 
Any idea who said this? (Answer at end of post.)

When people scream that they’re not against Jews, just against “Zionists,” they are lying. It’s a way, they think, to curse and condemn Jews without saying the word, and thus they think they are getting away with their antisemitism. They are wrong. Zionists are people (Jews and Christians alike) who believe that Jews have the right to self-determination.

- They know that Jews are indigenous to Israel, way before Islam existed, dating back 3500 years, until they were expelled by Rome.

- They know, given the hate and violence against Jews for 2,000 years, that Jews need the safe harbor of self-determination.

- They understand that the shrieks of “to the river from the sea” means the destruction of Israel and her Jews.

- They know that Jews have the right to defend themselves from evil forces who want to wipe them out, be it Iran or Hamas or any other Islamic terrorists.


Answer: MLK
MLK was a hero .
JVP is handled by islamist fascist Hatem Bazian.
 
No, we just oppose taking someone else's land.


You mean students pointing out that Genocide is wrong.



Yes, I've humiliated you so many times, I can see where you get your panties in a bunch.

No, its israels land. Never has belonged to the philistines. Thats really what the modern palestine is.
 
I have that antisemite on ignore, but i have no doubt he revealed more od his Jew-hate.
He did not. He presented many good arguments delineating Zionists from Jews
 
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