When will we have laser battery defense

[Quasar44]

Israel iron dome is spectacular technology but not super efficient . It works 90 percent but costs 100,000 per interceptor

I know the USA navy is working on the real deal with lasers . It’s cheap and moves at light speed

You think in 2030s , this will be reality ??
USA military wants to up its to 400 KW

 

[Ringel05]

Last I checked my batteries didn't need defending..........

 

[toobfreak]

Israel iron dome is spectacular technology but not super efficient . It works 90 percent but costs 100,000 per interceptor
I know the USA navy is working on the real deal with lasers . It’s cheap and moves at light speed
You think in 2030s , this will be reality ??

It's been here.







Keep in mind that lasers will always be limited in the troposphere by scintillation, clouds and rain.

 

[Quasar44]

Israel iron dome is spectacular technology but not super efficient . It works 90 percent but costs 100,000 per interceptor
I know the USA navy is working on the real deal with lasers . It’s cheap and moves at light speed
You think in 2030s , this will be reality ??

When will Israel have this ??

It's been here.







Keep in mind that lasers will always be limited in the troposphere by scintillation, clouds and rain.

 

[Quasar44]

Israel iron dome is spectacular technology but not super efficient . It works 90 percent but costs 100,000 per interceptor
I know the USA navy is working on the real deal with lasers . It’s cheap and moves at light speed
You think in 2030s , this will be reality ??

It's been here.







Keep in mind that lasers will always be limited in the troposphere by scintillation, clouds and rain.

They have ways to fix any weather problems with things like optics and laser probes

 

[Dekster]

Israel iron dome is spectacular technology but not super efficient . It works 90 percent but costs 100,000 per interceptor

I know the USA navy is working on the real deal with lasers . It’s cheap and moves at light speed

You think in 2030s , this will be reality ??
USA military wants to up its to 400 KW

Well we carry out our attacks at night so If people switch to green energy, we will totally be able to bomb the shit out of their laser beams at night.

 

[Dayton3]

Israel iron dome is spectacular technology but not super efficient . It works 90 percent but costs 100,000 per interceptor

I know the USA navy is working on the real deal with lasers . It’s cheap and moves at light speed

You think in 2030s , this will be reality ??
USA military wants to up its to 400 KW

Probably in the 2030s.

But it won't be the way people tend to imagine nuclear weapons working. It won't be a beam flashing out and blowing up an incoming missile.

It will be more like a beam (invisible by the way) burning out the sensors mounted on an incoming missile.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

We need to wait for the discovery of the nadion particle which will lead to energy weapons that will make lasers as weapons obsolete

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[whitehall]

Israel is caught in a political world where it has to rely on defensive weapons. The U.S. however has the greatest offensive weapons system in history.

 

[rddean]

Is that anything like Jewish space lasers starting forest fires in California?

 

[AMart]

Laser-based defense array to be deployed within year, Bennett says, speeding rollout​

Prime minister tells INSS conference country will eventually be protected by ‘wall of lasers,’ announces campaign underway to weaken Iran, proxies​

Laser-based defense array to be deployed within year, Bennett says, speeding rollout

Prime minister tells INSS conference country will eventually be protected by 'wall of lasers,' announces campaign underway to weaken Iran, proxies

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Mushroom]

Never.

Short of point-blank defense, these are very limited, and not very realistic. And for point-blank, we already have systems like CIWS which do the role much better than a LASER system ever could. Because you could use CIWS in any kind of environment, which you can not do with a LASER based system.

 

[Dayton3]

Never.

Short of point-blank defense, these are very limited, and not very realistic. And for point-blank, we already have systems like CIWS which do the role much better than a LASER system ever could. Because you could use CIWS in any kind of environment, which you can not do with a LASER based system.

In all fairness CIWS can and does quickly run out of ammunition.

 

[Mushroom]

In all fairness CIWS can and does quickly run out of ammunition.

Which is why most ships have multiple systems that can attack at inbound threats from the same angle, and with systems like the Phalanx Deckloader System (PDS) the magazine can be reloaded in under 4 minutes.

And you can fire it in the rain, something you can not do with a LASER system.

 

[Dayton3]

Which is why most ships have multiple systems that can attack at inbound threats from the same angle, and with systems like the Phalanx Deckloader System (PDS) the magazine can be reloaded in under 4 minutes.

And you can fire it in the rain, something you can not do with a LASER system.

Isn't Goalkeeper a better system than Phalanx?

 

[Mushroom]

Isn't Goalkeeper a better system than Phalanx?

Six of one, half a dozen of another. They are really pretty close, with nothing to really set it aside from the Phalanx.

However, the Phalanx has been tested in battle against inbound weapons, while at most the Goalkeeper has only been used against small pirate boats.

 

[DudleySmith]

We've had the capacity to pierce clouds with laser sensors and communications since the late 1990's.

A Cloud-Piercing Laser for Communications

Swiss team proposes overcoming cloud and fog obstacles to Earth-to-satellite laser communications by using a second laser to clear a path through the air.

www.optica-opn.org

The 'two laser' issue is also not necessary, when using a tunable laser system similar to the dye lasers used in the medical field even before that, and then there is the technique of 'chirp' control, also around for a while. A bit of an explanation of that here, from 2001:

A low-cost, optical feedback laser range-finder with chirp-control

A low-cost, optical feedback laser range-finder with chirp-control

www.academia.edu

The major problem these days is size and power sources, and efficiency with using longer wavelengths. So for now, JDAMS still rules.

 

[DudleySmith]

It will be more like a beam (invisible by the way) burning out the sensors mounted on an incoming missile.

Yes, the visible light wavelength spectrum is pretty small; most work is with lasers outside the visible spectrum.

 

[Mushroom]

We've had the capacity to pierce clouds with laser sensors and communications since the late 1990's.

But that is not like a weapon grade LASER at all, as it does not suffer the thermal blooming issue that high powered ones do.

 

[DudleySmith]

But that is not like a weapon grade LASER at all, as it does not suffer the thermal blooming issue that high powered ones do.

No, it isn't, but those aren't that far off; as I said the main barriers now are power supplies and size. Also concurrent is increasing ranges beyond the horizon. Flying mirror arrays are in the works, too, though I'm betting on satellites being a better bet re costs.

Bloom isn't a problem with beams in a train following through a hole piercing through clouds and the like; we're talking about pulsed speeds very near the speed of light, faster than the holes can close.

Then again none of these systems may be nearly as cost effective as JDAMS.

Watch this Spirit decimate an airfield with 80 JDAMs

The B-2 Spirit is perhaps the most expensive bomber ever built, costing over $1 billion per aircraft (when all the R&D costs are factored in). For that money, though, there is a lot of capability this plane brings. For instance, the B…

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A few years ago, the Air Force ran one test of the B-2 with the 500-pound JDAMs. The plane was loaded with 80 inert versions of the GBU-38 and was sent to hit a simulated airfield in Utah. In addition to two runways, there were other targets simulated, including a SA-6 “Gainful” missile site, a SS-1 Scud launch site, an aircraft revetment, a hangar, and the other accoutrements that one finds around an airfield.

Think of it as a stealthy version of an Arc Light.

A video of the test not only shows the number of bombs a B-2 can carry, but it also shows just how accurate JDAMs are. Note, the runways are also thoroughly cratered, meaning any planes that survived the pass of the first B-2, will be kept at the field until the next strike arrives.

Other stuff at the link:

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• Lockheed’s new laser-guided bomb lives up to its name
• Reaper drones can now be armed with JDAMs
• 4 things cluster bombs can do that JDAMs can’t

It looks like the B-52 is always going to be useful, eh?