who else here hates the yankees?

[manifold]

How about .421?

Trumpeting an outlier to defend a ludicrous argument?

That's not like you SwampAss!

 

[Shogun]

I guess some leagues have pitchers who are not 'fraid to break a fingernail. Enjoy your dainty nail salon pitchers.



Now, don't make me sic THIS guy on you, dude.

 

[manifold]

I guess some leagues have pitchers who are not 'fraid to break a fingernail. Enjoy your dainty nail salon pitchers.

Yup.

And I guess some leagues also have pitchers who are not 'fraid to pitch to line-ups with 8 or 9 good hitters instead of 4 or 5.


Oh, and as if the pitchers have any say over the leagues rules.

 

[Shogun]

oh.. you mean 8 or 9 fat guys who have nothing to do but eat hot dogs and pack their colon until it's their turn to hit?


Enjoy your babe ruths, dude. I'll keep my Lou Brocks.

 

[Paulie]

Yup.

And I guess some leagues also have pitchers who are not 'fraid to pitch to line-ups with 8 or 9 good hitters instead of 4 or 5.


Oh, and as if the pitchers have any say over the leagues rules.

Who's got 8 or 9 good hitters consistently? The Sox?

Feel free to post numbers so we can laugh that claim out the door.

 

[manifold]

oh.. you mean 8 or 9 fat guys who have nothing to do but eat hot dogs and pack their colon until it's their turn to hit?


Enjoy your babe ruths, dude. I'll keep my Lou Brocks.

Now you're just being silly.



But seriously, it's always easy for me to disagree with anyone about the DH, because I happen to be a fan of exactly the way it is. I wouldn't want either league to adopt the way the other does it.

 

[Paulie]

But seriously, it's always easy for me to disagree with anyone about the DH, because I happen to be a fan of exactly the way it is. I wouldn't want either league to adopt the way the other does it.

For the longest time, I was a fan of the current status-quo as well. I'm starting to think that pitchers should hit though. It makes a manager's job so much easier when they don't have to pinch hit for a pitcher in the middle of the game in the HOPES of MAYBE being able to knock in an extra run, ultimately losing his starting pitcher who may have actually been performing pretty well up to that point.

When I like it, is during the WS when the rule changes back and forth due to travelling to the opposing league's park.

Should the rules be completely changed though, for a matter of 7 total possible games at the very end of the entire sport's season?

 

[manifold]

For the longest time, I was a fan of the current status-quo as well. I'm starting to think that pitchers should hit though. It makes a manager's job so much easier when they don't have to pinch hit for a pitcher in the middle of the game in the HOPES of MAYBE being able to knock in an extra run, ultimately losing his starting pitcher who may have actually been performing pretty well up to that point.

When I like it, is during the WS when the rule changes back and forth due to travelling to the opposing league's park.

Should the rules be completely changed though, for a matter of 7 total possible games at the very end of the entire sport's season?

I'm still a fan of the status-quo. I hear what you're saying about the managerial ease thing, but I counter that with a pitching ease thing. Because of this dynamic, the NL places a higher premium on defense than the AL, and "as a general rule" they tend to have weaker hitters in the bottom third of the line-up relative to the AL.

They still have inter-league play in the regular season right?

 

[Shogun]

Now you're just being silly.



But seriously, it's always easy for me to disagree with anyone about the DH, because I happen to be a fan of exactly the way it is. I wouldn't want either league to adopt the way the other does it.

no... i agree. I like having two leagues that are distinct in their play. Hell, I have the Royals to root for too but, to be honest, I hate all teams out of KC. Even shitty American league baseball teams.


and, I've been a Cards fan forever.

 

[manifold]

no... i agree. I like having two leagues that are distinct in their play. Hell, I have the Royals to root for too but, to be honest, I hate all teams out of KC. Even shitty American league baseball teams.


and, I've been a Cards fan forever.

They are the class of the NL, I'll give you that.

 

[Swamp Fox]

Micah Owings

Major Leagues
Micah Owings won a spot in the Arizona Diamondbacks starting rotation in spring training 2007. He made his first major league start on April 6, pitching five scoreless innings and picking up the win against the Washington Nationals. Owings had a fine two-way game on August 18. He went 4 for 4 with a double, two home runs, 4 runs and 6 RBI in a 12-6 win over the Braves. On the mound, he fanned 7 and allowed three hits (and 3 runs) in 7 innings. His .339 average in 2007 was the fourth-highest batting average by a pitcher in the DH era. This performance earned him a Silver Slugger Award. On the mound, he finished the year with a 8-8 record a 4.30 ERA and a 106-50 K/W ratio in 152 2/3 innings of work. In the postseason, he was used as pinch hitter in the 11th inning of Game 2 of the NLCS before getting the start in Game 4, which he lost.

Sources: 2003-2007 Baseball Almanacs

Only thing he doesn't do that the Babe did was eat a shit load of hot dogs during the game.

 

[Paulie]

I'm still a fan of the status-quo. I hear what you're saying about the managerial ease thing, but I counter that with a pitching ease thing. Because of this dynamic, the NL places a higher premium on defense than the AL, and "as a general rule" they tend to have weaker hitters in the bottom third of the line-up relative to the AL.

They still have inter-league play in the regular season right?

Yeah they do, but I'm not a fan of it. I liked it better when we didn't play each other until the WS. Call me a conservative.

 

[Shogun]

May 03, 2008
Baseball Expanded Glance
AMERICAN LEAGUE
East
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Boston 18 13 .581 - 12-5 6-8 4-6 W-1
Tampa Bay 16 13 .552 1 10-7 6-6 8-2 L-1
Baltimore 16 14 .533 1.5 10-6 6-8 5-5 L-1
N.Y. Yankees 16 16 .500 2.5 7-7 9-9 4-6 W-2
Toronto 14 17 .452 4 7-7 7-10 4-6 W-3
Central
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Chicago White Sox 14 14 .500 - 7-6 7-8 3-7 L-4
Minnesota 14 14 .500 - 9-6 5-8 6-4 W-3
Cleveland 14 15 .483 .5 8-9 6-6 7-3 W-2
Detroit 14 16 .467 1 6-8 8-8 7-3 L-1
Kansas City 12 16 .429 2 5-7 7-9 3-7 L-2
West
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
L.A. Angels 19 13 .594 - 9-8 10-5 6-4 W-1
Oakland 18 13 .581 .5 8-8 10-5 6-4 L-1
Seattle 13 18 .419 5.5 7-7 6-11 2-8 L-4
Texas 12 18 .400 6 6-8 6-10 5-5 W-3
NATIONAL LEAGUE
East
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Philadelphia 17 13 .567 - 9-7 8-6 7-3 W-2
N.Y. Mets 15 12 .556 .5 9-5 6-7 5-5 W-1
Florida 16 13 .552 .5 8-8 8-5 4-6 W-1
Atlanta 13 15 .464 3 9-4 4-11 4-6 W-1
Washington 13 18 .419 4.5 9-8 4-10 7-3 W-1
Central
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
St. Louis 19 11 .633 - 13-6 6-5 6-4 W-3
Chicago Cubs 17 12 .586 1.5 11-6 6-6 4-6 L-2
Milwaukee 16 13 .552 2.5 7-6 9-7 5-5 L-1
Houston 14 16 .467 5 7-5 7-11 6-4 W-1
Cincinnati 12 18 .400 7 6-8 6-10 4-6 L-3
Pittsburgh 12 18 .400 7 6-7 6-11 4-6 L-1
West
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Arizona 20 9 .690 - 11-4 9-5 6-4 L-1
L.A. Dodgers 16 13 .552 4 9-5 7-8 8-2 W-7
San Francisco 13 17 .433 7.5 8-8 5-9 5-5 L-1
Colorado 11 18 .379 9 4-7 7-11 2-8 L-2
San Diego 11 19 .367 9.5 6-9 5-10 2-8 L-2

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/standings.htm

 

[Swamp Fox]

May 03, 2008
Baseball Expanded Glance
AMERICAN LEAGUE
East
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Boston 18 13 .581 - 12-5 6-8 4-6 W-1
Tampa Bay 16 13 .552 1 10-7 6-6 8-2 L-1
Baltimore 16 14 .533 1.5 10-6 6-8 5-5 L-1
N.Y. Yankees 16 16 .500 2.5 7-7 9-9 4-6 W-2
Toronto 14 17 .452 4 7-7 7-10 4-6 W-3
Central
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Chicago White Sox 14 14 .500 - 7-6 7-8 3-7 L-4
Minnesota 14 14 .500 - 9-6 5-8 6-4 W-3
Cleveland 14 15 .483 .5 8-9 6-6 7-3 W-2
Detroit 14 16 .467 1 6-8 8-8 7-3 L-1
Kansas City 12 16 .429 2 5-7 7-9 3-7 L-2
West
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
L.A. Angels 19 13 .594 - 9-8 10-5 6-4 W-1
Oakland 18 13 .581 .5 8-8 10-5 6-4 L-1
Seattle 13 18 .419 5.5 7-7 6-11 2-8 L-4
Texas 12 18 .400 6 6-8 6-10 5-5 W-3
NATIONAL LEAGUE
East
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Philadelphia 17 13 .567 - 9-7 8-6 7-3 W-2
N.Y. Mets 15 12 .556 .5 9-5 6-7 5-5 W-1
Florida 16 13 .552 .5 8-8 8-5 4-6 W-1
Atlanta 13 15 .464 3 9-4 4-11 4-6 W-1
Washington 13 18 .419 4.5 9-8 4-10 7-3 W-1
Central
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
St. Louis 19 11 .633 - 13-6 6-5 6-4 W-3
Chicago Cubs 17 12 .586 1.5 11-6 6-6 4-6 L-2
Milwaukee 16 13 .552 2.5 7-6 9-7 5-5 L-1
Houston 14 16 .467 5 7-5 7-11 6-4 W-1
Cincinnati 12 18 .400 7 6-8 6-10 4-6 L-3
Pittsburgh 12 18 .400 7 6-7 6-11 4-6 L-1
West
TEAM W L PCT GB HOME ROAD L-10 STREAK
Arizona 20 9 .690 - 11-4 9-5 6-4 L-1 L.A. Dodgers 16 13 .552 4 9-5 7-8 8-2 W-7
San Francisco 13 17 .433 7.5 8-8 5-9 5-5 L-1
Colorado 11 18 .379 9 4-7 7-11 2-8 L-2
San Diego 11 19 .367 9.5 6-9 5-10 2-8 L-2

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/standings.htm

You forgot one. I helped you with it.

 

[Shogun]

hehehe.

 

[manifold]

pfffft!

If there's a lamer sports state, I'm not aware of it.

 

[Shogun]

To be honest, I've always been rather pissed off that Pheonix took our football Cardinals. I mean, who the fuck has ever seen a CARDINAL in the goddamn desert?

Thankfully, they have always sucked and continued to suck after the move.

 

[Paulie]

To be honest, I've always been rather pissed off that Pheonix took our football Cardinals. I mean, who the fuck has ever seen a CARDINAL in the goddamn desert?

Thankfully, they have always sucked and continued to suck after the move.

I'm not sure it's even possible for them to ever NOT suck.

 

[manifold]

To be honest, I've always been rather pissed off that Pheonix took our football Cardinals. I mean, who the fuck has ever seen a CARDINAL in the goddamn desert?

Thankfully, they have always sucked and continued to suck after the move.

They're cursed. Haven't you heard the story about the championship they ripped off from some small Pennsylvania steel town?

 

[Shogun]

nope. I'm not sure I know what you are talking 'bout.

Have a great ass end of the weekend, Mani!