Who Was The Beast Of The Book Of Revelation?

[JAG]

Who Was The Beast Of the Book Of Revelation?
Short Answer: Nero Caesar.
Read on , , ,
_________________

{The following was taken from
He Shall Have Dominion.
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
It is not a word for word quote but the substance of this below
is Dr. Gentry's. I typed it in. It is not on the web. Footnote at
the bottom}
_________________

Who Was The Beast Of Revelation?
The Beast is a well known Christian Eschatological character.
Premillennialists incorrectly believe that the Beast is to appear
in the future. This is false. The Beast was a 1st Century character
that appeared in the 1st Century and will never appear again in
human history.

The Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation.

The Time Of The Beast.
John clearly expects his prophesied events to take
place in his day, the 1st Century.

John writes:
"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place."
Revelation 1:1

"Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the
prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near"
Revelation 22:10

"must soon take place"
"the time is near"

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to his servant
John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is,
the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of
this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
and take to heart what is written in it, because the
time is near." Revelation 1:1-4

“Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the
seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Rev. 1:11
{these were churches of the 1st century that received
this letter of Revelation}

_____________________


Revelation 13 presents the Beast as a horrible and
powerful foe attempting to destroy God's people.

Sometimes Revelation presents the Beast as a
kingdom and sometimes as an individua leader
of that kingdom.

In some places the Beast has seven heads which
are seven kings collectively considered.

In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
seven heads.
Revelation 17:10 specifically says that the seven
heads represent seven kings.

Thus the Beast is presented as a kingdom.
But kingdoms have representatives. This is why
John also speaks of the Beast as an individual.

John urges his readers to calculate the number of
the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
13:18

The Beast's General Identity is the first-century
Roman Empire and NOT a "revived Roman Empire"
as imagined by Dispensationalism.

According to Revelation 17:9 the Beast's seven heads
represent "seven mountains." The seven mountains
symbolize Rome. Rome is the one city in history
distinguished and recognized by its seven
mountains.

___________________


The Beast's Specific Identify.
The Beast in his personal identity is Nero Caesar. He
and he alone fits the bill as the personal and specific
expression of the Beast. This vile character fulfills all
the requirements of the text of Revelation.

First the number of the Beast. In Revelation 13:18
the number of the Beast is 666. The usefulness of
this number lies in the fact that in the first-century
alphabets serve as both phonetic symbols and
as arithmetical values. Significantly a common
spelling of Nero Caesar's name is Nrwn Qsr,
which provides the numerical value of 666

Second the Textual Variant. See Dr. Gentry's
book for this explanation. Page 381

Third the Beastly Image.
Revelation 13 both calls and portrays the one
behind the 666 riddle as a "beast.". The term
"beast" can easily symbolize persons with a
beastly nature. Almost all scholars agree that
Nero Caesar possessed a beastly nature.. Nero
Caesar is even hated and feared by his own
countrymen, as ancient Roman historians agree.
The pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a
contemporary of Nero Caesar, calls him a
"beast."

Fourth, the war with the saints.
John's Beast will make war with the saints
and overcome them.{Rev. 13:7} In fact
Nero Caesar conducts a blasphemous war
with the saints for a specific period of 42 months {Rev. 13:5}
Nero begins his persecution of Christians in A.D. 64.
The persecution finally ends when Nero Caesar dies
on June 8, A.D.68 forty-two months later, but for a few days.
{Point of interest: Nero's own end comes by the sword.}

Conclusion: The Beast of Revelation was the beastly
Nero Caesar of the 1st Century.

Source
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
pages 379 - 381

 

[Moonglow]

eschatology of the Jews is not new so the Christians made up their own story.

 

[surada]

It was the first century Roman Emperor.. You must follow the prophet Hal Lindsey.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Somehow this doesnt feel like a new heaven and new earth.........

 

[The Irish Ram]

Who Was The Beast Of the Book Of Revelation?
Short Answer: Nero Caesar.
Read on , , ,
_________________

{The following was taken from
He Shall Have Dominion.
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
It is not a word for word quote but the substance of this below
is Dr. Gentry's. I typed it in. It is not on the web. Footnote at
the bottom}
_________________

Who Was The Beast Of Revelation?
The Beast is a well known Christian Eschatological character.
Premillennialists incorrectly believe that the Beast is to appear
in the future. This is false. The Beast was a 1st Century character
that appeared in the 1st Century and will never appear again in
human history.

The Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation.

The Time Of The Beast.
John clearly expects his prophesied events to take
place in his day, the 1st Century.

John writes:
"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place."
Revelation 1:1

"Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the
prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near"
Revelation 22:10

"must soon take place"
"the time is near"

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to his servant
John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is,
the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of
this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
and take to heart what is written in it, because the
time is near." Revelation 1:1-4

“Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the
seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Rev. 1:11
{these were churches of the 1st century that received
this letter of Revelation}

_____________________


Revelation 13 presents the Beast as a horrible and
powerful foe attempting to destroy God's people.

Sometimes Revelation presents the Beast as a
kingdom and sometimes as an individua leader
of that kingdom.

In some places the Beast has seven heads which
are seven kings collectively considered.

In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
seven heads.
Revelation 17:10 specifically says that the seven
heads represent seven kings.

Thus the Beast is presented as a kingdom.
But kingdoms have representatives. This is why
John also speaks of the Beast as an individual.

John urges his readers to calculate the number of
the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
13:18

The Beast's General Identity is the first-century
Roman Empire and NOT a "revived Roman Empire"
as imagined by Dispensationalism.

According to Revelation 17:9 the Beast's seven heads
represent "seven mountains." The seven mountains
symbolize Rome. Rome is the one city in history
distinguished and recognized by its seven
mountains.

___________________


The Beast's Specific Identify.
The Beast in his personal identity is Nero Caesar. He
and he alone fits the bill as the personal and specific
expression of the Beast. This vile character fulfills all
the requirements of the text of Revelation.

First the number of the Beast. In Revelation 13:18
the number of the Beast is 666. The usefulness of
this number lies in the fact that in the first-century
alphabets serve as both phonetic symbols and
as arithmetical values. Significantly a common
spelling of Nero Caesar's name is Nrwn Qsr,
which provides the numerical value of 666

Second the Textual Variant. See Dr. Gentry's
book for this explanation. Page 381

Third the Beastly Image.
Revelation 13 both calls and portrays the one
behind the 666 riddle as a "beast.". The term
"beast" can easily symbolize persons with a
beastly nature. Almost all scholars agree that
Nero Caesar possessed a beastly nature.. Nero
Caesar is even hated and feared by his own
countrymen, as ancient Roman historians agree.
The pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a
contemporary of Nero Caesar, calls him a
"beast."

Fourth, the war with the saints.
John's Beast will make war with the saints
and overcome them.{Rev. 13:7} In fact
Nero Caesar conducts a blasphemous war
with the saints for a specific period of 42 months {Rev. 13:5}
Nero begins his persecution of Christians in A.D. 64.
The persecution finally ends when Nero Caesar dies
on June 8, A.D.68 forty-two months later, but for a few days.
{Point of interest: Nero's own end comes by the sword.}

Conclusion: The Beast of Revelation was the beastly
Nero Caesar of the 1st Century.

Source
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
pages 379 - 381

When Did Nero sit in the Jewish Temple and defile it?

 

[norwegen]

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

Or some thing relevant to that first-century audience.

In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
seven heads.

The first beast, yes.

John urges his readers to calculate the number of
the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
13:18

This is not the first beast that came from the sea. This is the second beast that came from the land.

 

[norwegen]

Who Was The Beast Of the Book Of Revelation?
Short Answer: Nero Caesar.
Read on , , ,
_________________

{The following was taken from
He Shall Have Dominion.
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
It is not a word for word quote but the substance of this below
is Dr. Gentry's. I typed it in. It is not on the web. Footnote at
the bottom}
_________________

Who Was The Beast Of Revelation?
The Beast is a well known Christian Eschatological character.
Premillennialists incorrectly believe that the Beast is to appear
in the future. This is false. The Beast was a 1st Century character
that appeared in the 1st Century and will never appear again in
human history.

The Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation.

The Time Of The Beast.
John clearly expects his prophesied events to take
place in his day, the 1st Century.

John writes:
"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place."
Revelation 1:1

"Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the
prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near"
Revelation 22:10

"must soon take place"
"the time is near"

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to his servant
John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is,
the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of
this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
and take to heart what is written in it, because the
time is near." Revelation 1:1-4

“Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the
seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Rev. 1:11
{these were churches of the 1st century that received
this letter of Revelation}

_____________________


Revelation 13 presents the Beast as a horrible and
powerful foe attempting to destroy God's people.

Sometimes Revelation presents the Beast as a
kingdom and sometimes as an individua leader
of that kingdom.

In some places the Beast has seven heads which
are seven kings collectively considered.

In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
seven heads.
Revelation 17:10 specifically says that the seven
heads represent seven kings.

Thus the Beast is presented as a kingdom.
But kingdoms have representatives. This is why
John also speaks of the Beast as an individual.

John urges his readers to calculate the number of
the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
13:18

The Beast's General Identity is the first-century
Roman Empire and NOT a "revived Roman Empire"
as imagined by Dispensationalism.

According to Revelation 17:9 the Beast's seven heads
represent "seven mountains." The seven mountains
symbolize Rome. Rome is the one city in history
distinguished and recognized by its seven
mountains.

___________________


The Beast's Specific Identify.
The Beast in his personal identity is Nero Caesar. He
and he alone fits the bill as the personal and specific
expression of the Beast. This vile character fulfills all
the requirements of the text of Revelation.

First the number of the Beast. In Revelation 13:18
the number of the Beast is 666. The usefulness of
this number lies in the fact that in the first-century
alphabets serve as both phonetic symbols and
as arithmetical values. Significantly a common
spelling of Nero Caesar's name is Nrwn Qsr,
which provides the numerical value of 666

Second the Textual Variant. See Dr. Gentry's
book for this explanation. Page 381

Third the Beastly Image.
Revelation 13 both calls and portrays the one
behind the 666 riddle as a "beast.". The term
"beast" can easily symbolize persons with a
beastly nature. Almost all scholars agree that
Nero Caesar possessed a beastly nature.. Nero
Caesar is even hated and feared by his own
countrymen, as ancient Roman historians agree.
The pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a
contemporary of Nero Caesar, calls him a
"beast."

Fourth, the war with the saints.
John's Beast will make war with the saints
and overcome them.{Rev. 13:7} In fact
Nero Caesar conducts a blasphemous war
with the saints for a specific period of 42 months {Rev. 13:5}
Nero begins his persecution of Christians in A.D. 64.
The persecution finally ends when Nero Caesar dies
on June 8, A.D.68 forty-two months later, but for a few days.
{Point of interest: Nero's own end comes by the sword.}

Conclusion: The Beast of Revelation was the beastly
Nero Caesar of the 1st Century.

Source
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
pages 379 - 381

When Did Nero sit in the Jewish Temple and defile it?

So many Christians intermix the two beasts, the one from the sea and the one from the land.

 

[irosie91]

fascinating------who is the whore of babylon?

 

[Likkmee]

fascinating------who is the whore of babylon?

She is on the sideline at the moment...We'll see

 

[irosie91]

It was the first century Roman Emperor.. You must follow the prophet Hal Lindsey.

which one?

 

[norwegen]

Beasts were individuals. The Apostle Paul encountered some Zealots in Ephesus when they chased him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:8-10). Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32), for indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and watching their own temple burn down.

The ancients were not entirely unlike we moderns with their name-calling and analogies. The beasts of the field - were they not mere foreigners to Israel (or Adam)?

Beasts are also nations, as is obviously the case in Revelation. Rome was a foreigner, and foreigners came from the sea. That’s just how the ancients thought. As the Bronze Age waned, for example, bands of marauders and displaced peoples invaded Egypt from various lands around the Mediterranean; the Egyptians referred to them as “Sea Peoples.” The beast that uttered “haughty and blasphemous” words was a foreigner; he was not Israel (Rv 13:1-5). He was from the sea.

The beast and kings of the earth would have been Israel. Apostate Judea and its corrupt temple hierarchy made war against Christ and the Romans (Rv 19:19). Roman troops belonged to the Lord (Mt 22:7). Romans were executioners of divine justice; like foreigners in the past, God had often enlisted the assistance of foreign armies to mete out justice on His unfaithful bride.

 

[irosie91]

Beasts were individuals. The Apostle Paul encountered some Zealots in Ephesus when they chased him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:8-10). Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32), for indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and watching their own temple burn down.

The ancients were not entirely unlike we moderns with their name-calling and analogies. The beasts of the field - were they not mere foreigners to Israel (or Adam)?

Beasts are also nations, as is obviously the case in Revelation. Rome was a foreigner, and foreigners came from the sea. That’s just how the ancients thought. As the Bronze Age waned, for example, bands of marauders and displaced peoples invaded Egypt from various lands around the Mediterranean; the Egyptians referred to them as “Sea Peoples.” The beast that uttered “haughty and blasphemous” words was a foreigner; he was not Israel (Rv 13:1-5). He was from the sea.

The beast and kings of the earth would have been Israel. Apostate Judea and its corrupt temple hierarchy made war against Christ and the Romans (Rv 19:19). Roman troops belonged to the Lord (Mt 22:7). Romans were executioners of divine justice; like foreigners in the past, God had often enlisted the assistance of foreign armies to mete out justice on His unfaithful bride.

could be an accepted interpretation. The NT was written in support of the ROMAN
EMPIRE and its customs and traditions-----like gladiator fights and feeding people to
lions and, of course, its BRUTAL GENOCIDAL CONQUESTS. I wonder what
"ancients" means to Norwegen. IMEO ----2000 years ago constitutes MODERN
HISTORY,-----for "ancient"-----at the very least----go back 5 -6 thousand years.
There were ---in those days, ALREADY, written languages. I wonder what the
"corrupt Temple hierarchy" was since in the time to which Norwegen refers-----the
Temple priests were ROMAN APPOINTEES ----and shills, most especially CAIAPHAS

 

[norwegen]

Beasts were individuals. The Apostle Paul encountered some Zealots in Ephesus when they chased him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:8-10). Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32), for indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and watching their own temple burn down.

The ancients were not entirely unlike we moderns with their name-calling and analogies. The beasts of the field - were they not mere foreigners to Israel (or Adam)?

Beasts are also nations, as is obviously the case in Revelation. Rome was a foreigner, and foreigners came from the sea. That’s just how the ancients thought. As the Bronze Age waned, for example, bands of marauders and displaced peoples invaded Egypt from various lands around the Mediterranean; the Egyptians referred to them as “Sea Peoples.” The beast that uttered “haughty and blasphemous” words was a foreigner; he was not Israel (Rv 13:1-5). He was from the sea.

The beast and kings of the earth would have been Israel. Apostate Judea and its corrupt temple hierarchy made war against Christ and the Romans (Rv 19:19). Roman troops belonged to the Lord (Mt 22:7). Romans were executioners of divine justice; like foreigners in the past, God had often enlisted the assistance of foreign armies to mete out justice on His unfaithful bride.

could be an accepted interpretation. The NT was written in support of the ROMAN
EMPIRE and its customs and traditions-----like gladiator fights and feeding people to
lions and, of course, its BRUTAL GENOCIDAL CONQUESTS. I wonder what
"ancients" means to Norwegen. IMEO ----2000 years ago constitutes MODERN
HISTORY,-----for "ancient"-----at the very least----go back 5 -6 thousand years.
There were ---in those days, ALREADY, written languages. I wonder what the
"corrupt Temple hierarchy" was since in the time to which Norwegen refers-----the
Temple priests were ROMAN APPOINTEES ----and shills, most especially CAIAPHAS

Yes, the NT was pro-Roman, I suppose, like the OT showed the Medes in a favorable light, for example, when they drove out the Babylonians (Is 13:17-19).

Ancients, to my mind, were people before Christianity, though inclusive of the primitive Christians. The arrival of the new heaven and earth - the kingdom of God and the temple therein (i.e., the church) - appears to be a crossroads of human history. So, yes, back 5 to 6 thousand years, and even further.

The corrupt temple hierarchy is the very object of Christ's derision. Apostate Judea's high council were the hypocrites whose lineage murdered and persecuted the faithful (Mt 23:29-36). And that last generation of them even delighted in the death of Christians (Acts 12:1-3). A Roman procurator appointing high priests for a time notwithstanding, Caiaphas was nonetheless a Jew who presided over the Sanhedrin, and is irrelevant to my gist.

 

[irosie91]

Beasts were individuals. The Apostle Paul encountered some Zealots in Ephesus when they chased him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:8-10). Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32), for indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and watching their own temple burn down.

The ancients were not entirely unlike we moderns with their name-calling and analogies. The beasts of the field - were they not mere foreigners to Israel (or Adam)?

Beasts are also nations, as is obviously the case in Revelation. Rome was a foreigner, and foreigners came from the sea. That’s just how the ancients thought. As the Bronze Age waned, for example, bands of marauders and displaced peoples invaded Egypt from various lands around the Mediterranean; the Egyptians referred to them as “Sea Peoples.” The beast that uttered “haughty and blasphemous” words was a foreigner; he was not Israel (Rv 13:1-5). He was from the sea.

The beast and kings of the earth would have been Israel. Apostate Judea and its corrupt temple hierarchy made war against Christ and the Romans (Rv 19:19). Roman troops belonged to the Lord (Mt 22:7). Romans were executioners of divine justice; like foreigners in the past, God had often enlisted the assistance of foreign armies to mete out justice on His unfaithful bride.

could be an accepted interpretation. The NT was written in support of the ROMAN
EMPIRE and its customs and traditions-----like gladiator fights and feeding people to
lions and, of course, its BRUTAL GENOCIDAL CONQUESTS. I wonder what
"ancients" means to Norwegen. IMEO ----2000 years ago constitutes MODERN
HISTORY,-----for "ancient"-----at the very least----go back 5 -6 thousand years.
There were ---in those days, ALREADY, written languages. I wonder what the
"corrupt Temple hierarchy" was since in the time to which Norwegen refers-----the
Temple priests were ROMAN APPOINTEES ----and shills, most especially CAIAPHAS

Yes, the NT was pro-Roman, I suppose, like the OT showed the Medes in a favorable light, for example, when they drove out the Babylonians (Is 13:17-19).

Ancients, to my mind, were people before Christianity, though inclusive of the primitive Christians. The arrival of the new heaven and earth - the kingdom of God and the temple therein (i.e., the church) - appears to be a crossroads of human history. So, yes, back 5 to 6 thousand years, and even further.

The corrupt temple hierarchy is the very object of Christ's derision. Apostate Judea's high council were the hypocrites whose lineage murdered and persecuted the faithful (Mt 23:29-36). And that last generation of them even delighted in the death of Christians (Acts 12:1-3). A Roman procurator appointing high priests for a time notwithstanding, Caiaphas was nonetheless a Jew who presided over the Sanhedrin, and is irrelevant to my gist.

Caiaphas presided over the Sanhedrin? Why? because he was the high priest?
seems you have a Sunday school education

 

[norwegen]

Beasts were individuals. The Apostle Paul encountered some Zealots in Ephesus when they chased him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:8-10). Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32), for indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and watching their own temple burn down.

The ancients were not entirely unlike we moderns with their name-calling and analogies. The beasts of the field - were they not mere foreigners to Israel (or Adam)?

Beasts are also nations, as is obviously the case in Revelation. Rome was a foreigner, and foreigners came from the sea. That’s just how the ancients thought. As the Bronze Age waned, for example, bands of marauders and displaced peoples invaded Egypt from various lands around the Mediterranean; the Egyptians referred to them as “Sea Peoples.” The beast that uttered “haughty and blasphemous” words was a foreigner; he was not Israel (Rv 13:1-5). He was from the sea.

The beast and kings of the earth would have been Israel. Apostate Judea and its corrupt temple hierarchy made war against Christ and the Romans (Rv 19:19). Roman troops belonged to the Lord (Mt 22:7). Romans were executioners of divine justice; like foreigners in the past, God had often enlisted the assistance of foreign armies to mete out justice on His unfaithful bride.

could be an accepted interpretation. The NT was written in support of the ROMAN
EMPIRE and its customs and traditions-----like gladiator fights and feeding people to
lions and, of course, its BRUTAL GENOCIDAL CONQUESTS. I wonder what
"ancients" means to Norwegen. IMEO ----2000 years ago constitutes MODERN
HISTORY,-----for "ancient"-----at the very least----go back 5 -6 thousand years.
There were ---in those days, ALREADY, written languages. I wonder what the
"corrupt Temple hierarchy" was since in the time to which Norwegen refers-----the
Temple priests were ROMAN APPOINTEES ----and shills, most especially CAIAPHAS

Yes, the NT was pro-Roman, I suppose, like the OT showed the Medes in a favorable light, for example, when they drove out the Babylonians (Is 13:17-19).

Ancients, to my mind, were people before Christianity, though inclusive of the primitive Christians. The arrival of the new heaven and earth - the kingdom of God and the temple therein (i.e., the church) - appears to be a crossroads of human history. So, yes, back 5 to 6 thousand years, and even further.

The corrupt temple hierarchy is the very object of Christ's derision. Apostate Judea's high council were the hypocrites whose lineage murdered and persecuted the faithful (Mt 23:29-36). And that last generation of them even delighted in the death of Christians (Acts 12:1-3). A Roman procurator appointing high priests for a time notwithstanding, Caiaphas was nonetheless a Jew who presided over the Sanhedrin, and is irrelevant to my gist.

Caiaphas presided over the Sanhedrin? Why? because he was the high priest?
seems you have a Sunday school education

He presided over the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus. Did you miss Sunday School that day?

 

[irosie91]

Beasts were individuals. The Apostle Paul encountered some Zealots in Ephesus when they chased him out of a synagogue, leaving him to preach in a schoolhouse (Acts 19:8-10). Paul was not loathe to refer to them as beasts (1 Cor 15:32), for indeed they were so driven by madness that they would have done anything to torment and expel the Romans, even if it meant persecuting their own people and watching their own temple burn down.

The ancients were not entirely unlike we moderns with their name-calling and analogies. The beasts of the field - were they not mere foreigners to Israel (or Adam)?

Beasts are also nations, as is obviously the case in Revelation. Rome was a foreigner, and foreigners came from the sea. That’s just how the ancients thought. As the Bronze Age waned, for example, bands of marauders and displaced peoples invaded Egypt from various lands around the Mediterranean; the Egyptians referred to them as “Sea Peoples.” The beast that uttered “haughty and blasphemous” words was a foreigner; he was not Israel (Rv 13:1-5). He was from the sea.

The beast and kings of the earth would have been Israel. Apostate Judea and its corrupt temple hierarchy made war against Christ and the Romans (Rv 19:19). Roman troops belonged to the Lord (Mt 22:7). Romans were executioners of divine justice; like foreigners in the past, God had often enlisted the assistance of foreign armies to mete out justice on His unfaithful bride.

could be an accepted interpretation. The NT was written in support of the ROMAN
EMPIRE and its customs and traditions-----like gladiator fights and feeding people to
lions and, of course, its BRUTAL GENOCIDAL CONQUESTS. I wonder what
"ancients" means to Norwegen. IMEO ----2000 years ago constitutes MODERN
HISTORY,-----for "ancient"-----at the very least----go back 5 -6 thousand years.
There were ---in those days, ALREADY, written languages. I wonder what the
"corrupt Temple hierarchy" was since in the time to which Norwegen refers-----the
Temple priests were ROMAN APPOINTEES ----and shills, most especially CAIAPHAS

Yes, the NT was pro-Roman, I suppose, like the OT showed the Medes in a favorable light, for example, when they drove out the Babylonians (Is 13:17-19).

Ancients, to my mind, were people before Christianity, though inclusive of the primitive Christians. The arrival of the new heaven and earth - the kingdom of God and the temple therein (i.e., the church) - appears to be a crossroads of human history. So, yes, back 5 to 6 thousand years, and even further.

The corrupt temple hierarchy is the very object of Christ's derision. Apostate Judea's high council were the hypocrites whose lineage murdered and persecuted the faithful (Mt 23:29-36). And that last generation of them even delighted in the death of Christians (Acts 12:1-3). A Roman procurator appointing high priests for a time notwithstanding, Caiaphas was nonetheless a Jew who presided over the Sanhedrin, and is irrelevant to my gist.

Caiaphas presided over the Sanhedrin? Why? because he was the high priest?
seems you have a Sunday school education

He presided over the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus. Did you miss Sunday School that day?

why? was he a member of the Sanhedrin?

 

[The Irish Ram]

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

Love ya JAG, but you misunderstand prophecy. It can be what will take place 2 days from now or 2,000 years from now. It is relevant to the time, not the people. That we humans just now have the ability to wipe out life on earth is totally irrelevant to the dead of the first century.
There have been a bunch of bad humans, but none so far fit the description of the beast laid out in end time prophecy. For one, he will be loved the world over. Nero wasn't even loved at home. Nero produced no peace treaty with Israel. Nor did he suffer a mortal head wound to the head or neck and survive. He had no weapons of mass destruction. Nor was he responsible for Christ returning to stop the destruction.
Wiping life off the earth is a prophesy that could only be fulfilled and relevant to us.

 

[irosie91]

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

Love ya JAG, but you misunderstand prophecy. It can be what will take place 2 days from now or 2,000 years from now. It is relevant to the time, not the people. That we humans just now have the ability to wipe out life on earth is totally irrelevant to the dead of the first century.
There have been a bunch of bad humans, but none so far fit the description of the beast laid out in end time prophecy. For one, he will be loved the world over. Nero wasn't even loved at home. Nero produced no peace treaty with Israel. Nor did he suffer a mortal head wound to the head or neck and survive. He had no weapons of mass destruction. Nor was he responsible for Christ returning to stop the destruction.
Wiping life off the earth is a prophesy that could only be fulfilled and relevant to us.

Nero's mother DID LOVE HIM------she made him what he ??? OY was

 

[The Irish Ram]

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

Love ya JAG, but you misunderstand prophecy. It can be what will take place 2 days from now or 2,000 years from now. It is relevant to the time, not the people. That we humans just now have the ability to wipe out life on earth is totally irrelevant to the dead of the first century.
There have been a bunch of bad humans, but none so far fit the description of the beast laid out in end time prophecy. For one, he will be loved the world over. Nero wasn't even loved at home. Nero produced no peace treaty with Israel. Nor did he suffer a mortal head wound to the head or neck and survive. He had no weapons of mass destruction. Nor was he responsible for Christ returning to stop the destruction.
Wiping life off the earth is a prophesy that could only be fulfilled and relevant to us.

Nero's mother DID LOVE HIM------she made him what he ??? OY was

The world did not.

The whole world was astonished and followed the beast. Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast?

THIS HAS NOT OCCURRED YET PEOPLE...

 

[Infallible Arbiter]

Who Was The Beast Of the Book Of Revelation?
Short Answer: Nero Caesar.
Read on , , ,
_________________

{The following was taken from
He Shall Have Dominion.
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
It is not a word for word quote but the substance of this below
is Dr. Gentry's. I typed it in. It is not on the web. Footnote at
the bottom}
_________________

Who Was The Beast Of Revelation?
The Beast is a well known Christian Eschatological character.
Premillennialists incorrectly believe that the Beast is to appear
in the future. This is false. The Beast was a 1st Century character
that appeared in the 1st Century and will never appear again in
human history.

The Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation.

The Time Of The Beast.
John clearly expects his prophesied events to take
place in his day, the 1st Century.

John writes:
"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place."
Revelation 1:1

"Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the
prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near"
Revelation 22:10

"must soon take place"
"the time is near"

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to his servant
John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is,
the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of
this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
and take to heart what is written in it, because the
time is near." Revelation 1:1-4

“Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the
seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Rev. 1:11
{these were churches of the 1st century that received
this letter of Revelation}

_____________________


Revelation 13 presents the Beast as a horrible and
powerful foe attempting to destroy God's people.

Sometimes Revelation presents the Beast as a
kingdom and sometimes as an individua leader
of that kingdom.

In some places the Beast has seven heads which
are seven kings collectively considered.

In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
seven heads.
Revelation 17:10 specifically says that the seven
heads represent seven kings.

Thus the Beast is presented as a kingdom.
But kingdoms have representatives. This is why
John also speaks of the Beast as an individual.

John urges his readers to calculate the number of
the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
13:18

The Beast's General Identity is the first-century
Roman Empire and NOT a "revived Roman Empire"
as imagined by Dispensationalism.

According to Revelation 17:9 the Beast's seven heads
represent "seven mountains." The seven mountains
symbolize Rome. Rome is the one city in history
distinguished and recognized by its seven
mountains.

___________________


The Beast's Specific Identify.
The Beast in his personal identity is Nero Caesar. He
and he alone fits the bill as the personal and specific
expression of the Beast. This vile character fulfills all
the requirements of the text of Revelation.

First the number of the Beast. In Revelation 13:18
the number of the Beast is 666. The usefulness of
this number lies in the fact that in the first-century
alphabets serve as both phonetic symbols and
as arithmetical values. Significantly a common
spelling of Nero Caesar's name is Nrwn Qsr,
which provides the numerical value of 666

Second the Textual Variant. See Dr. Gentry's
book for this explanation. Page 381

Third the Beastly Image.
Revelation 13 both calls and portrays the one
behind the 666 riddle as a "beast.". The term
"beast" can easily symbolize persons with a
beastly nature. Almost all scholars agree that
Nero Caesar possessed a beastly nature.. Nero
Caesar is even hated and feared by his own
countrymen, as ancient Roman historians agree.
The pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a
contemporary of Nero Caesar, calls him a
"beast."

Fourth, the war with the saints.
John's Beast will make war with the saints
and overcome them.{Rev. 13:7} In fact
Nero Caesar conducts a blasphemous war
with the saints for a specific period of 42 months {Rev. 13:5}
Nero begins his persecution of Christians in A.D. 64.
The persecution finally ends when Nero Caesar dies
on June 8, A.D.68 forty-two months later, but for a few days.
{Point of interest: Nero's own end comes by the sword.}

Conclusion: The Beast of Revelation was the beastly
Nero Caesar of the 1st Century.

Source
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
pages 379 - 381

burn your book.
nothing close to what the Beast

Who Was The Beast Of the Book Of Revelation?
Short Answer: Nero Caesar.
Read on , , ,
_________________

{The following was taken from
He Shall Have Dominion.
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
It is not a word for word quote but the substance of this below
is Dr. Gentry's. I typed it in. It is not on the web. Footnote at
the bottom}
_________________

Who Was The Beast Of Revelation?
The Beast is a well known Christian Eschatological character.
Premillennialists incorrectly believe that the Beast is to appear
in the future. This is false. The Beast was a 1st Century character
that appeared in the 1st Century and will never appear again in
human history.

The Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation.

The Time Of The Beast.
John clearly expects his prophesied events to take
place in his day, the 1st Century.

John writes:
"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place."
Revelation 1:1

"Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the
prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near"
Revelation 22:10

"must soon take place"
"the time is near"

In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
that first-century audience.

"The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
him to show his servants what must soon take place.
He made it known by sending his angel to his servant
John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is,
the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of
this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
and take to heart what is written in it, because the
time is near." Revelation 1:1-4

“Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the
seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
Rev. 1:11
{these were churches of the 1st century that received
this letter of Revelation}

_____________________


Revelation 13 presents the Beast as a horrible and
powerful foe attempting to destroy God's people.

Sometimes Revelation presents the Beast as a
kingdom and sometimes as an individua leader
of that kingdom.

In some places the Beast has seven heads which
are seven kings collectively considered.

In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
seven heads.
Revelation 17:10 specifically says that the seven
heads represent seven kings.

Thus the Beast is presented as a kingdom.
But kingdoms have representatives. This is why
John also speaks of the Beast as an individual.

John urges his readers to calculate the number of
the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
13:18

The Beast's General Identity is the first-century
Roman Empire and NOT a "revived Roman Empire"
as imagined by Dispensationalism.

According to Revelation 17:9 the Beast's seven heads
represent "seven mountains." The seven mountains
symbolize Rome. Rome is the one city in history
distinguished and recognized by its seven
mountains.

___________________


The Beast's Specific Identify.
The Beast in his personal identity is Nero Caesar. He
and he alone fits the bill as the personal and specific
expression of the Beast. This vile character fulfills all
the requirements of the text of Revelation.

First the number of the Beast. In Revelation 13:18
the number of the Beast is 666. The usefulness of
this number lies in the fact that in the first-century
alphabets serve as both phonetic symbols and
as arithmetical values. Significantly a common
spelling of Nero Caesar's name is Nrwn Qsr,
which provides the numerical value of 666

Second the Textual Variant. See Dr. Gentry's
book for this explanation. Page 381

Third the Beastly Image.
Revelation 13 both calls and portrays the one
behind the 666 riddle as a "beast.". The term
"beast" can easily symbolize persons with a
beastly nature. Almost all scholars agree that
Nero Caesar possessed a beastly nature.. Nero
Caesar is even hated and feared by his own
countrymen, as ancient Roman historians agree.
The pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a
contemporary of Nero Caesar, calls him a
"beast."

Fourth, the war with the saints.
John's Beast will make war with the saints
and overcome them.{Rev. 13:7} In fact
Nero Caesar conducts a blasphemous war
with the saints for a specific period of 42 months {Rev. 13:5}
Nero begins his persecution of Christians in A.D. 64.
The persecution finally ends when Nero Caesar dies
on June 8, A.D.68 forty-two months later, but for a few days.
{Point of interest: Nero's own end comes by the sword.}

Conclusion: The Beast of Revelation was the beastly
Nero Caesar of the 1st Century.

Source
He Shall Have Dominion
by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
pages 379 - 381

burn your book -
Rev 17:11".. beast that was, and is not, and yet is".