Quantum Windbag
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BigReb -
There are two factors worth considering here -
Firstly, that someone owning 8 guns is probably no more likely to kill someone than a person who owns 4 guns - so people basically stockpiling weapons won't push the homicide rate up.
What do you base that on? Do you have any evidence to back up such an idiotic claim? Is a person who owns more than 8 knives more likely to kill someone than a person who owns 1? Why the fuck do you think guns kill people?
We know that the % of American households containing guns has fallen over the past 20 years - THAT is why your homicide rate has fallen.
We do? How do you know what I, or anyone else, knows? The mere fact that you repeat something that is not true multiple times does not mean that other people know it.
The fact that households that do containguns now contain more guns is probably not a big factor.
Secondly, homicide rates don't rise and fall on a weekly basis depending on changes in gun control legislation. They tend to be gradual, incremental shifts.
And every single study shows that they have been decreasing over time, even as the number of guns owned goes up. Yet you keep telling me that more guns means more deaths.
Then you accuse me of not having any facts when I point this out.
When the UK introduced gun control, the homicide rate briefly spiked before falling to such an extent that they now have less homicides than at any point since 1983. So we need to look at longer periods of time than this year vs last year.
The UK enacted gun control in 1997. That means that murders were going down before gun control existed, and continued the trend afterwards. That tends to destroy your rpemise that gun control makes a difference, especially when we consider the fact that violent crimes in the UK have spiked since gun control was implemented, and have not gone down since.
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Feel free to post your chart about gun homicides again, we know it is all you have.