WTC building 7

[Mad Scientist]

So, where is this melted steel?

Standard procedure when storing Crime Scene Evidence is to ship it to China.

 

[Agit8r]

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Hard to tell what I'm looking at in the last one. Nothing there says definitively that structural steel melted. Welds perhaps.

 

[PredFan]

Erk Erginer, MSc ME, PhD Metallurgy – Retired Manufacturing Engineer. Research and Development in Explosive Forming of Steel Pre-forms. Design and production of castings and forgings in industry. Prior to retirement, served in Production Plant Management.

• Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition: "I am convinced beyond any shadow of doubt that: 1. NORAD could not have been rendered worthless by anyone or any organization but persons in or close to the U.S. government. 2. No passenger plane hit the Pentagon. 3. The two towers could not have come down in near-free fall speed if explosives were not scientifically planted and distributed throughout the structures and sequentially exploded through computer control. Explosions occurred ahead of the advancing debris so that the near-free fall speed can be achieved. 4. The 9/11 wars and war on terror were pre-planned and executed according to these plans." http://www.ae911truth.org

Like I said, no one but people who believe the CTs.

you believe a conspiracy theory and you believe over the laws of physics..

There was no violation of any of the laws of physics. You DO understand that the NIST had engineers and physicists on the investigation team right?

So tell us what YOU think happened?

Yes this man clearly does not understand basic physics..


David L. Griscom, PhD – Research physicist, retired in 2001 from Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) in Washington, DC, after 33 years service. Fellow of the American Physical Society. Fulbright-García Robles Fellow at Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City (1997). Visiting professorships of research at the Universities of Paris and Saint-Etienne, France, and Tokyo Institute of Technology (2000 - 2003). Adjunct Professor of Materials Science and Engineering, University of Arizona (2004 - 2005). Winner of the 1993 N. F. Mott Award sponsored by the Journal of Non-Crystalline Solids, the 1995 Otto Schott Award offered by the Carl-Zeiss-Stiftung (Germany), a 1996 Outstanding Graduate School Alumnus Award at Brown University, and the 1997 Sigma Xi Pure Science Award at NRL. Principal author of 109 of his 185 published works, a body of work which is highly cited by his peers. Officially credited with largest number of papers (5) by any author on list of 100 most cited articles authored at NRL between 1973 and 1988.

• Personal blog2/9/07: "David Ray Griffin has web-published a splendid, highly footnoted account of The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True: This scholarly work, rich in eyewitness accounts, includes 11 separate pieces of evidence that the World Trade Center towers 1, 2 [each 1300+ feet tall, 110 stories] and 7 were brought down by explosives.

One guy. Not impressed.

 

[PredFan]

1. We saw the planes hit the towers. We saw it on TV and New Yorkers saw it in person. Fact: airplanes hit the towers, not missiles.
2. 4 passenger planes, their crews and passengers are missing.
3. The missing planes correspond to the planes that were tracked to the towers, the Pentagon, and the place where the one went down.
4. Logical conclusion: the planes hit the towers, the Pentagon, and the field. Not missiles.
5. Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda took credit for the act.

Now, if someone is trying to tell me that a team of demolition experts rigged building 7 to drop without anyone seeing them do it AND they just happened to be ready to do it when OBL struck, I have to conclude that that person is insane.

Now, if your answer is that our government was in league with OBL, and that the demolition team rigged the building to go down killing people, causing two wars to start, which killed people, and led to the War on Terror with all of the associated restrictions on personal freedoms and these people say nothing after 14 years?

The NTSB's theory is complete logic and sanity compared that that kind of impossible and illogical nonsense.

 

[KokomoJojo]

So, am I understanding that you both want to cite the NIST as an authoritative source, and then want to say they got it wrong?

nist was selected by the government who do you think is the authoritative source?

 

[KokomoJojo]

So tell us Eots, what DID happen then?

the evidence says controled demolition

How did a demolition team rig the building to fall and no one saw them do it?

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

7 was empty all day

 

[KokomoJojo]

How did a demolition team rig the building to fall and no one saw them do it?

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

7 was empty all day

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the 9/11 apologists cover their eyes to these videos.as i said before,EXPERTS they dont want to hear from since it debunks their fantasies the fires brought them down.lol

 

[eots]

1. We saw the planes hit the towers. We saw it on TV and New Yorkers saw it in person. Fact: airplanes hit the towers, not missiles.
Strawman..no one said anything about missiles but you nothing to do with the collapse of building 7 or the failed NIST report

2. 4 passenger planes, their crews and passengers are missing.
Nothing to do with the NIST report or the collapse of building 7
3. The missing planes correspond to the planes that were tracked to the towers, the Pentagon, and the place where the one went down.
So what ?

4. Logical conclusion: the planes hit the towers, the Pentagon, and the field. Not missiles.
no plane or missile hit building 7..what are you babbling about ?

5. Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda took credit for the act.
Osama bin laden denied involvement in his fist press release btw..but regardless ..nothing to do with with NIST report and the collapse of building 7

Now, if someone is trying to tell me that a team of demolition experts rigged building 7 to drop without anyone seeing them do it AND they just happened to be ready to do it when OBL struck, I have to conclude that that person is insane.
To conclude that such high level people many of who that held positions of high level security clearance are all insane..is pure denial

Now, if your answer is that our government was in league with OBL, and that the demolition team rigged the building to go down killing people, causing two wars to start, which killed people, and led to the War on Terror with all of the associated restrictions on personal freedoms and these people say nothing after 14 years?

The NTSB's theory is complete logic and sanity compared that that kind of impossible and illogical nonsense.

you believe in fallacies like secrets can't be kept..more than evidence and reality and the basic laws of physics

 

[eots]

1. We saw the planes hit the towers. We saw it on TV and New Yorkers saw it in person. Fact: airplanes hit the towers, not missiles.
Strawman..no one said anything about missiles but you nothing to do with the collapse of building 7 or the failed NIST report

2. 4 passenger planes, their crews and passengers are missing.
Nothing to do with the NIST report or the collapse of building 7
3. The missing planes correspond to the planes that were tracked to the towers, the Pentagon, and the place where the one went down.
So what ?

4. Logical conclusion: the planes hit the towers, the Pentagon, and the field. Not missiles.
no plane or missile hit building 7..what are you babbling about ?

5. Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda took credit for the act.
Osama bin laden denied involvement in his fist press release btw..but regardless ..nothing to do with with NIST report and the collapse of building 7

Now, if someone is trying to tell me that a team of demolition experts rigged building 7 to drop without anyone seeing them do it AND they just happened to be ready to do it when OBL struck, I have to conclude that that person is insane.
To conclude that such high level people many of who that held positions of high level security clearance are all insane..is pure denial

Now, if your answer is that our government was in league with OBL, and that the demolition team rigged the building to go down killing people, causing two wars to start, which killed people, and led to the War on Terror with all of the associated restrictions on personal freedoms and these people say nothing after 14 years?

The NTSB's theory is complete logic and sanity compared that that kind of impossible and illogical nonsense.

you believe in fallacies like secrets can't be kept..more than evidence and reality and the basic laws of physics

1. We saw the planes hit the towers. We saw it on TV and New Yorkers saw it in person. Fact: airplanes hit the towers, not missiles.
Strawman..no one said anything about missiles but you nothing to do with the collapse of building 7 or the failed NIST report

2. 4 passenger planes, their crews and passengers are missing.
Nothing to do with the NIST report or the collapse of building 7
3. The missing planes correspond to the planes that were tracked to the towers, the Pentagon, and the place where the one went down.
So what ?

4. Logical conclusion: the planes hit the towers, the Pentagon, and the field. Not missiles.
no plane or missile hit building 7..what are you babbling about ?

5. Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda took credit for the act.
Osama bin laden denied involvement in his fist press release btw..but regardless ..nothing to do with with NIST report and the collapse of building 7

Now, if someone is trying to tell me that a team of demolition experts rigged building 7 to drop without anyone seeing them do it AND they just happened to be ready to do it when OBL struck, I have to conclude that that person is insane.
To conclude that such high level people many of who that held positions of high level security clearance are all insane..is pure denial

Now, if your answer is that our government was in league with OBL, and that the demolition team rigged the building to go down killing people, causing two wars to start, which killed people, and led to the War on Terror with all of the associated restrictions on personal freedoms and these people say nothing after 14 years?

The NTSB's theory is complete logic and sanity compared that that kind of impossible and illogical nonsense.

you believe in fallacies like secrets can't be kept..more than evidence and reality and the basic laws of physics

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So tell us Eots, what DID happen then?

the evidence says controled demolition

How did a demolition team rig the building to fall and no one saw them do it?

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

7 was empty all day

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

How big were the charges? How many did they need?

 

[eots]

Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot. Former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program. As an Air Force weapons effects expert was responsible for wartime tasking of most appropriate aircraft/munition for target destruction to include steel and concrete superstructures. Former aeronautical structures flight test engineer with McDonnell Douglas, working on advanced DC-9 autopilot systems and DC-10 flight envelope expansion stress and flutter analysis. Tactical aircraft flown: General Dynamics F-111 Aardvark fighter/bomber, McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle, General Dynamics / Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet, Boeing B-1 Bomber, MiG-29 (Russian fighter), and Su-22 (Russian fighter/bomber). 3,000+ fighter hours. Combat time over Iraq. 20-year Air Force career.

• Statement to this website 3/25/07: "After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back..
• U.S. Military Officers for 9 11 Truth

 

[eots]

So tell us Eots, what DID happen then?

the evidence says controled demolition

How did a demolition team rig the building to fall and no one saw them do it?

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

7 was empty all day

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

How big were the charges? How many did they need?

who knows ,they could well of had means and technology more advanced than the average demolition company..wireless detonation would be completely plausible as well ..it is just cost restrictive for demolition companies

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So tell us Eots, what DID happen then?

the evidence says controled demolition

How did a demolition team rig the building to fall and no one saw them do it?

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

7 was empty all day

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

How big were the charges? How many did they need?

who knows ,they could well of had means and technology more advanced than the average demolition company..wireless detonation would be completely plausible as well ..it is just cost restrictive for demolition companies

who knows

Not the idiotic conspiracy morons.

wireless detonation would be completely plausible as well

I'm not interested in the imagainary detonators, I'm interested in the tonnage of the imaginary explosives.

 

[eots]

• Maj. Douglas Rokke, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Director U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Project. 30-year Army career. Instructor, undergraduate and graduate courses in environmental science, environmental engineering, nuclear physics, emergency management. Staff physicist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for 19 years.
• Speech The Science and Politics of 9/11 Conference, Madison, WI 8/5/07 "When we blew up the World Trade Center - I want to repeat, that it was deliberately blown up. The aircraft definitely hit the sucker. There were definite explosions inside the thing. You talk to Willie Rodriguez, you talk to the police and the fire, my guys - no two ways about it. It's on the radio communications. Everything else out there. It happened.
• U.S. Military Officers for 9 11 Truth

 

[eots]

the evidence says controled demolition

How did a demolition team rig the building to fall and no one saw them do it?

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

7 was empty all day

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

How big were the charges? How many did they need?

who knows ,they could well of had means and technology more advanced than the average demolition company..wireless detonation would be completely plausible as well ..it is just cost restrictive for demolition companies

who knows

Not the idiotic conspiracy morons.

wireless detonation would be completely plausible as well

I'm not interested in the imagainary detonators, I'm interested in the tonnage of the imaginary explosives.

Imaginary ?..they are not imaginary
World’s first commercial wireless initiating system unveiled
04 Feb 2011



Orica Mining Services has revealed that in a world first it has successfully developed and trialled a wireless initiating system that has the potential to revolutionise modern mining methods and overcome the problems of traditional wired blasting, increasing the precision, productivity, safety and ultimately mine profitability.

Orica Mining Services Chief Executive Officer John Beevers said this technology has the potential to enable blasting techniques that have not previously been thought possible.

Speaking to Cole Latimer, editor of Australian Mining magazine at the unveiling of the wireless initiating system, John Beevers and General Manager of Technology and Marketing Jez Smith said the wireless initiating system has the potential to significantly change modern mining.

“The in-hole wireless initiating system is an assembly based on the i-kon™ electronic detonator technology and works by removing the need for wires or signal tubing to be connected to the detonator in the hole or between detonators on the surface, instead communicating directly to the charges
World s first commercial wireless initiating system unveiled

 

[KokomoJojo]

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Hard to tell what I'm looking at in the last one. Nothing there says definitively that structural steel melted. Welds perhaps.

 

[eots]

http://www.dmvp.si/dokumenti/POSVET/REINDERS_Electronic Blasting Systems, Velenje.pdf

 

[Agit8r]

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Hard to tell what I'm looking at in the last one. Nothing there says definitively that structural steel melted. Welds perhaps.

That doesn't look melted at all. It looks like hundreds of tons of debris might have fallen on it though.

 

[KokomoJojo]

really simple, less than a minute each, little duct tape remote control detonators.

How big were the charges? How many did they need?

3 per cut if you dont prep first.
they are small