Yes, It was The Affordable Care Act That Increased Premiums

Viktor

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Latest data here are from 2017.
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.
 
Of course it increased premiums hugely but the UNTOLD STORY of obamacare is that Unions that provide health care to their members and retirees had to cut back on their benefits because of it...Many lost alot of the medical benefits that were paid for before...and lost drs that they went to that would no longer accept their insurance
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.

He and The GOP tried
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-backs-republican-aca-replacement-plan.html

Where did he promise to "take care of everybody?" Obama said that, not Trump.

> It does not give everyone health insurance
> Not 'Everybody' Is Covered Under ACA - FactCheck.org
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.

He and The GOP tried
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-backs-republican-aca-replacement-plan.html

Where did he promise to "take care of everybody?" Obama said that, not Trump.

> It does not give everyone health insurance
> Not 'Everybody' Is Covered Under ACA - FactCheck.org

"

DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me.


So your blob is a failure. Good to know.
 
Not from what I'm reading.

The article is from the writer at the Heritage Foundation aka Tramp Admin.

People are living longer and Preexisting conditions are finally covered.
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.

He and The GOP tried
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-backs-republican-aca-replacement-plan.html

Where did he promise to "take care of everybody?" Obama said that, not Trump.

> It does not give everyone health insurance
> Not 'Everybody' Is Covered Under ACA - FactCheck.org

"

DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me.


So your blob is a failure. Good to know.
Since Trump's plan was never put into effect(not yet,anyway) there is no way to know if it covers everybody.
You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.
 
Premiums were going up regardless. You can argue that the ACA did absolutely nothing to address rising premiums though.
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.

He and The GOP tried
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-backs-republican-aca-replacement-plan.html

Where did he promise to "take care of everybody?" Obama said that, not Trump.

> It does not give everyone health insurance
> Not 'Everybody' Is Covered Under ACA - FactCheck.org

"

DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me.


So your blob is a failure. Good to know.
Since Trump's plan was never put into effect(not yet,anyway) there is no way to know if it covers everybody.
You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.

Trump has no plan. You can't put in place something that doesn't exist.
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.

He and The GOP tried
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-backs-republican-aca-replacement-plan.html

Where did he promise to "take care of everybody?" Obama said that, not Trump.

> It does not give everyone health insurance
> Not 'Everybody' Is Covered Under ACA - FactCheck.org

"

DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me.


So your blob is a failure. Good to know.
Since Trump's plan was never put into effect(not yet,anyway) there is no way to know if it covers everybody.
You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.

Simple...your blob has no plan. You have serious mental issues that you still believe anything he says.
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!

Don't you have the marketplace plans in your state? That is the place to go.
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!

Don't you have the marketplace plans in your state? That is the place to go.

In WV we have one company offering plans. One. There is no marketplace. We did open up Medicaid which I fully support but being a small state that is not going to work for long with the ever increasing rates.

I support UHC. I do not support Obamacare and the lies that allowed it to pass.
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.

He and The GOP tried
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hospital-management-administration/trump-backs-republican-aca-replacement-plan.html

Where did he promise to "take care of everybody?" Obama said that, not Trump.

> It does not give everyone health insurance
> Not 'Everybody' Is Covered Under ACA - FactCheck.org

"

DAVID MUIR: Let me ask you, Mr. President, about another promise involving Obamacare to repeal it. And you told The Washington Post that your plan to replace Obamacare will include insurance for everybody. That sounds an awful lot like universal coverage.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: It's going to be -- what my plan is is that I wanna take care of everybody. I'm not gonna leave the lower 20 percent that can't afford insurance. Just so you understand people talk about Obamacare. And I told the Republicans this, the best thing we could do is nothing for two years, let it explode. And then we'll go in and we'll do a new plan and -- and the Democrats will vote for it. Believe me.


So your blob is a failure. Good to know.
Since Trump's plan was never put into effect(not yet,anyway) there is no way to know if it covers everybody.
You have a serious problem with reading comprehension.

it was NEVER put into effect - because there is NO TRUMP PLAN.
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!

Don't you have the marketplace plans in your state? That is the place to go.

In WV we have one company offering plans. One. There is no marketplace. We did open up Medicaid which I fully support but being a small state that is not going to work for long with the ever increasing rates.

I support UHC. I do not support Obamacare and the lies that allowed it to pass.

West Virginia’s AG is working to overturn the ACA, while simultaneously pushing legislation to protect state residents from those efforts
When the ACA’s individual mandate penalty was repealed under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, a group of 18 Republican attorneys general and two Republican governors filed a lawsuit (Texas v. Azar/US), seeking to have the entire ACA ruled unconstitutional (two states have since withdrawn from the lawsuit after Democratic governors took office, so there are currently 18 states challenging the ACA). Their argument is that the individual mandate is unconstitutional without the associated enforcement tax, and the mandate is unseverable from the rest of the ACA — if one falls, the rest falls.

Although that argument might sound tenuous at best, a judge agreed with the plaintiff states in late 2018, ruling that the ACA should be overturned. The case was appealed, but a panel of judges for the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed that the individual mandate is unconstitutional — although they sent the case back to the lower court to have the judge clarify which portions of the ACA should be overturned.

This ruling essentially just adds additional delay and uncertainty, as it’s not clear how long it will take before the case eventually makes its way to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, nothing is changing about the ACA. But if the law is eventually overturned, it would create utter chaos (and not just for people who buy their own health insurance).

Patrick Morrisey is West Virginia’s attorney general, and is one of the plaintiffs in Texas v. Azar/US, which means he’s part of the group that is actively working to overturn the ACA. But in early 2020, Morrisey and West Virginia State Senate President Mitch Carmichael announced new legislation that would be considered in 2020 in an effort to protect West Virginia residents from the very lawsuit that the state is supporting. The West Virginia Healthcare Continuity Act, which would only take effect if and when the ACA gets overturned, would prohibit insurers from rejecting applicants due to pre-existing conditions. It would also require insurers to cover the essential health benefits, and would allow insurers to use limited enrollment windows in order to mitigate risk, just as the ACA does.
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We are about to get rid of the ACA is ACB is on the supreme court.
 
a major reason why premiums skyrocketed ( besides the greedy for profit industry this 'capitalistic' society has had for years )

is due to a little poison pill that marco rubio slid into the ACA budget.

when the ACA was being hammered out & negotiated, the only way that bighealthcarecorp agreed to take on & insure the sickest of the sick ( called high risk corridors)

aka the pre existing condition clause

was the subsidies promised to them, so their bottom line remained in the black. BUT rubio's sly move reduced that incentive from whatever cash the corps would get - down to mere pennies on the dollar.

sooooooooooooooo................... to make up for that shortfall, profit driven bighealthcorps raised their premiums.

Marco Rubio Quietly Undermines Affordable Care Act
By Robert Pear

Dec. 9, 2015

WASHINGTON — A little-noticed health care provision slipped into a giant spending law last year has tangled up the Obama administration, sent tremors through health insurance markets and rattled confidence in the durability of President Obama’s signature health law.
The attack stems from two years of effort by Senator Marco Rubio and others in Congress to undermine a key financing mechanism in the law. So for all the Republican talk about dismantling the Affordable Care Act, one Republican presidential hopeful has actually done something toward achieving that goal.
[...]
Marco Rubio Quietly Undermines Affordable Care Act (Published 2015)
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!

Don't you have the marketplace plans in your state? That is the place to go.

In WV we have one company offering plans. One. There is no marketplace. We did open up Medicaid which I fully support but being a small state that is not going to work for long with the ever increasing rates.

I support UHC. I do not support Obamacare and the lies that allowed it to pass.

West Virginia’s AG is working to overturn the ACA, while simultaneously pushing legislation to protect state residents from those efforts
When the ACA’s individual mandate penalty was repealed under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, a group of 18 Republican attorneys general and two Republican governors filed a lawsuit (Texas v. Azar/US), seeking to have the entire ACA ruled unconstitutional (two states have since withdrawn from the lawsuit after Democratic governors took office, so there are currently 18 states challenging the ACA). Their argument is that the individual mandate is unconstitutional without the associated enforcement tax, and the mandate is unseverable from the rest of the ACA — if one falls, the rest falls.

Although that argument might sound tenuous at best, a judge agreed with the plaintiff states in late 2018, ruling that the ACA should be overturned. The case was appealed, but a panel of judges for the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed that the individual mandate is unconstitutional — although they sent the case back to the lower court to have the judge clarify which portions of the ACA should be overturned.

This ruling essentially just adds additional delay and uncertainty, as it’s not clear how long it will take before the case eventually makes its way to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, nothing is changing about the ACA. But if the law is eventually overturned, it would create utter chaos (and not just for people who buy their own health insurance).

Patrick Morrisey is West Virginia’s attorney general, and is one of the plaintiffs in Texas v. Azar/US, which means he’s part of the group that is actively working to overturn the ACA. But in early 2020, Morrisey and West Virginia State Senate President Mitch Carmichael announced new legislation that would be considered in 2020 in an effort to protect West Virginia residents from the very lawsuit that the state is supporting. The West Virginia Healthcare Continuity Act, which would only take effect if and when the ACA gets overturned, would prohibit insurers from rejecting applicants due to pre-existing conditions. It would also require insurers to cover the essential health benefits, and would allow insurers to use limited enrollment windows in order to mitigate risk, just as the ACA does.
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We are about to get rid of the ACA is ACB is on the supreme court.

IMO the only way we will ever get to the right thing, Universal Health Care is to overturn Obamacare.
 


Latest data here are from 2017.
Trump should replace it with "something terrific" and "take care of everybody" like he promised to do.
Obama wouldnt lie ! Would he?
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!

Don't you have the marketplace plans in your state? That is the place to go.

In WV we have one company offering plans. One. There is no marketplace. We did open up Medicaid which I fully support but being a small state that is not going to work for long with the ever increasing rates.

I support UHC. I do not support Obamacare and the lies that allowed it to pass.

West Virginia’s AG is working to overturn the ACA, while simultaneously pushing legislation to protect state residents from those efforts
When the ACA’s individual mandate penalty was repealed under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, a group of 18 Republican attorneys general and two Republican governors filed a lawsuit (Texas v. Azar/US), seeking to have the entire ACA ruled unconstitutional (two states have since withdrawn from the lawsuit after Democratic governors took office, so there are currently 18 states challenging the ACA). Their argument is that the individual mandate is unconstitutional without the associated enforcement tax, and the mandate is unseverable from the rest of the ACA — if one falls, the rest falls.

Although that argument might sound tenuous at best, a judge agreed with the plaintiff states in late 2018, ruling that the ACA should be overturned. The case was appealed, but a panel of judges for the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed that the individual mandate is unconstitutional — although they sent the case back to the lower court to have the judge clarify which portions of the ACA should be overturned.

This ruling essentially just adds additional delay and uncertainty, as it’s not clear how long it will take before the case eventually makes its way to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, nothing is changing about the ACA. But if the law is eventually overturned, it would create utter chaos (and not just for people who buy their own health insurance).

Patrick Morrisey is West Virginia’s attorney general, and is one of the plaintiffs in Texas v. Azar/US, which means he’s part of the group that is actively working to overturn the ACA. But in early 2020, Morrisey and West Virginia State Senate President Mitch Carmichael announced new legislation that would be considered in 2020 in an effort to protect West Virginia residents from the very lawsuit that the state is supporting. The West Virginia Healthcare Continuity Act, which would only take effect if and when the ACA gets overturned, would prohibit insurers from rejecting applicants due to pre-existing conditions. It would also require insurers to cover the essential health benefits, and would allow insurers to use limited enrollment windows in order to mitigate risk, just as the ACA does.
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We are about to get rid of the ACA is ACB is on the supreme court.

IMO the only way we will ever get to the right thing, Universal Health Care is to overturn Obamacare.
They will never go for Universal Healthcare as long as the republicans on the supreme court are in charge.
 
I don't need a link to tell me obamacare QUADRUPLED my insurance premiums in 2 years.

Then I got a letter from BC/BS saying they are no longer insuring individuals unless thru work...I had to scramble to find a different company.

Thanks again obama!

Don't you have the marketplace plans in your state? That is the place to go.

In WV we have one company offering plans. One. There is no marketplace. We did open up Medicaid which I fully support but being a small state that is not going to work for long with the ever increasing rates.

I support UHC. I do not support Obamacare and the lies that allowed it to pass.

West Virginia’s AG is working to overturn the ACA, while simultaneously pushing legislation to protect state residents from those efforts
When the ACA’s individual mandate penalty was repealed under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, a group of 18 Republican attorneys general and two Republican governors filed a lawsuit (Texas v. Azar/US), seeking to have the entire ACA ruled unconstitutional (two states have since withdrawn from the lawsuit after Democratic governors took office, so there are currently 18 states challenging the ACA). Their argument is that the individual mandate is unconstitutional without the associated enforcement tax, and the mandate is unseverable from the rest of the ACA — if one falls, the rest falls.

Although that argument might sound tenuous at best, a judge agreed with the plaintiff states in late 2018, ruling that the ACA should be overturned. The case was appealed, but a panel of judges for the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed that the individual mandate is unconstitutional — although they sent the case back to the lower court to have the judge clarify which portions of the ACA should be overturned.

This ruling essentially just adds additional delay and uncertainty, as it’s not clear how long it will take before the case eventually makes its way to the Supreme Court. In the meantime, nothing is changing about the ACA. But if the law is eventually overturned, it would create utter chaos (and not just for people who buy their own health insurance).

Patrick Morrisey is West Virginia’s attorney general, and is one of the plaintiffs in Texas v. Azar/US, which means he’s part of the group that is actively working to overturn the ACA. But in early 2020, Morrisey and West Virginia State Senate President Mitch Carmichael announced new legislation that would be considered in 2020 in an effort to protect West Virginia residents from the very lawsuit that the state is supporting. The West Virginia Healthcare Continuity Act, which would only take effect if and when the ACA gets overturned, would prohibit insurers from rejecting applicants due to pre-existing conditions. It would also require insurers to cover the essential health benefits, and would allow insurers to use limited enrollment windows in order to mitigate risk, just as the ACA does.
---------------------------
We are about to get rid of the ACA is ACB is on the supreme court.

IMO the only way we will ever get to the right thing, Universal Health Care is to overturn Obamacare.
They will never go for Universal Healthcare as long as the republicans on the supreme court are in charge.

The Supreme Court has nothing to do with it. The Supreme Court only initially got involved over the idea of forcing people to purchase something from a private company. Something I disagree with. We should not be forced to purchase something from a private for profit company to see to our health care needs.

Has the Supreme Court overturned Medicare? Is there anyone even mentioning that? No. The Supreme Court is not the problem. Corporate Congress people are.
 

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