Yet another incident showing trump to be unfit.

How did TRUMP know Parnus? Keep in mind democrats accepted Biden noting knowing people associated with Hunter that Joe was pictured playing golf with.
Either way no one cares.
Lev Parnus and Igor Fruman worked with Giuliani to get dirt on Biden in the Ukraine for Trump....Trump was hands on with Parnus at least 20 times.... He knew him. Trump lied when he said he didn't.

The documentary below will help you understand everyone's involvement, if you have the time to watch it!

 
The ultimate irony is that Marie Yovanovitch, a woman dedicated to eradicating corruption in Ukraine on behalf of the US, was recalled due to corruption in the US. Recalled by a corrupt prez because of his failure to corrupt Zelensky.

Followed by trump's corruption of the Repubs in the US Senate who turned a blind eye to the overwhelming evidence and protected their Dear Leader. What a tremendous opportunity for the country to rid ourselves of a traitor.
Hunter Biden
 
Lev Parnus and Igor Fruman worked with Giuliani to get dirt on Biden in the Ukraine for Trump....Trump was hands on with Parnus at least 20 times.... He knew him. Trump lied when he said he didn't.

The documentary below will help you understand everyone's involvement, if you have the time to watch it!

That documentary inspired my thread, as you may have guessed. As I watched it the depth of trump's corrupt acts as well as his brazen lies came flooding back as if they happened yesterday. Yet they are easy to forget as trump produces scandals on a weekly basis. The more recent ones being the incident at Arlington cemetery and his endorsement of the "black Nazi" in GA. They happen so fast and furiously it's disorienting.
 
Hunter Biden
What about him?

Republican senators find no evidence of wrongdoing regarding Biden and Ukraine policy

Republican senators' investigation into Joe Biden and Ukraine has come up empty.

The Senate Homeland Security Committee had been conducting an investigation into the former vice president's dealings with Ukraine, and committee chair Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) admittedly hoped to prove Biden's "unfitness for office." But an interim report of their ongoing investigation released Wednesday doesn't do that.

sparked the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, and after that concluded with no conviction, Republicans have been trying to turn the tables on Biden.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/9392...nce-wrongdoing-regarding-biden-ukraine-policy

The Biden impeachment inquiry's shaky foundation


The big picture: The facts surrounding the Bidens, Burisma and Shokin have been well-established over the course of two major congressional investigations: the first impeachment of former President Trump and a Senate probe led by Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).
  • Republicans frequently point to a 2018 video in which Biden boasts about withholding the loan guarantee, and say the timing is suspicious because Burisma executives had just asked Hunter Biden for help alleviating government pressure, according to his business partner Devon Archer.
  • But Shokin's deputy says the office was not investigating Burisma at the time, and the Senate report found no evidence that Hunter Biden's board position — while highly unethical — influenced U.S. policy.
What they're saying: Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was one of four Trump impeachment witnesses who testified that it was "official U.S. policy" — supported by international stakeholders — to push for Shokin's removal.

  • Trump's former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker — a Republican-called witness — testified that the allegations against Biden were "not credible" and that Shokin's firing "was widely understood internationally to be the right policy."
  • Former State Department official George Kent testified that Shokin had undermined a U.S. program — funded with "taxpayer money" — to "build an independent investigator unit to go after corrupt prosecutors."
  • David Holmes, a former diplomat in Ukraine, testified that his understanding was that Shokin "was not at that time pursuing investigations of Burisma or the Bidens."
At least five more State Department witnesses — Geoffrey Pyatt, Amos Hochstein, Victoria Nuland, David Wade and Antony Blinken — independently confirmed those facts in the 2020 Senate investigation.
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/12/biden-impeachment-claims-explained-viktor-shokin

Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/
 
What about him?

Republican senators find no evidence of wrongdoing regarding Biden and Ukraine policy

Republican senators' investigation into Joe Biden and Ukraine has come up empty.

The Senate Homeland Security Committee had been conducting an investigation into the former vice president's dealings with Ukraine, and committee chair Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) admittedly hoped to prove Biden's "unfitness for office." But an interim report of their ongoing investigation released Wednesday doesn't do that.

sparked the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, and after that concluded with no conviction, Republicans have been trying to turn the tables on Biden.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/9392...nce-wrongdoing-regarding-biden-ukraine-policy


The Biden impeachment inquiry's shaky foundation


The big picture: The facts surrounding the Bidens, Burisma and Shokin have been well-established over the course of two major congressional investigations: the first impeachment of former President Trump and a Senate probe led by Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Ron Johnson (R-Wis.).
  • Republicans frequently point to a 2018 video in which Biden boasts about withholding the loan guarantee, and say the timing is suspicious because Burisma executives had just asked Hunter Biden for help alleviating government pressure, according to his business partner Devon Archer.
  • But Shokin's deputy says the office was not investigating Burisma at the time, and the Senate report found no evidence that Hunter Biden's board position — while highly unethical — influenced U.S. policy.
What they're saying: Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was one of four Trump impeachment witnesses who testified that it was "official U.S. policy" — supported by international stakeholders — to push for Shokin's removal.

  • Trump's former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker — a Republican-called witness — testified that the allegations against Biden were "not credible" and that Shokin's firing "was widely understood internationally to be the right policy."
  • Former State Department official George Kent testified that Shokin had undermined a U.S. program — funded with "taxpayer money" — to "build an independent investigator unit to go after corrupt prosecutors."
  • David Holmes, a former diplomat in Ukraine, testified that his understanding was that Shokin "was not at that time pursuing investigations of Burisma or the Bidens."
At least five more State Department witnesses — Geoffrey Pyatt, Amos Hochstein, Victoria Nuland, David Wade and Antony Blinken — independently confirmed those facts in the 2020 Senate investigation.
https://www.axios.com/2023/12/12/biden-impeachment-claims-explained-viktor-shokin

Trump Revives False Narrative on Biden and Ukraine
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/
I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about corruption in Ukraine here.
 
I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about corruption in Ukraine here.
We are. trump's corruption. The fabricated corruption by Joe Biden made up by trump and House Repubs was debunked by a Senate investigation lead by Repubs.
 
There are hundreds. So many, some of the more glaring ones get lost in the shuffle. I had mostly forgotten about it but was reminded of it by the recent documentary, "From Russia with Lev."

A recording obtained by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."


Igor Fruman, one of the men who would be sent to Ukraine at trump's direction to dig up dirt on the Biden's, recorded the conversation at the dinner. Fruman and his associate, Lev Parnas, were trying to buy an Ukrainian energy company that had put itself up for sale. But they felt they needed to get US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, out of the way. So at the dinner (BTW..Parnas and Fruman were known to have ties to the Russian mafia but here they were consorting with trump) Parnas baselessly accused Yovanovitch of bad mouthing trump who immediately told staff to have her fired.

Lev Parnas, an associate of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, talks with Rachel Maddow in an exclusive interview about the difficulty Donald Trump had getting someone in his administration to fire the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ultimately adopting a smear campaign to help cover her dismissal.

Ousted ambassador gives deeply personal account of firing by Trump


There's a lot to unpack here. trump consorting with Ukrainian criminals........then lying about knowing them. trump having Parnas and Fruman sent to dig up dirt on Joe and his kid (culminating with trump's extortion of Zelensky to announce an investigation in to the Biden's). trump routinely checking with Giuliani about Lev and Igor's progress. Giuliani feeding false info to Faux which would immediately be broadcast in order to smear the Biden's for trump's electoral benefit.

As with all the other disqualifying incidents trump was up to his eyeballs in, this one is also dismissed by The Following. Denying/downplaying it by way of a variety of methods. Mostly by refusing the accept the facts and the sworn testimony of dozens of witnesses.

Because once they admit to themselves the reporting on this incident is accurate, it opens a can of worms that can't be closed. Accepting the truth of this story not only disqualifies trump as a candidate for the presidency, it creates a domino affect giving credibility to all the other incidents they have denied. And as we know, the truth is not their friend.
/——/ You gotta be kidding. It’s what he “appears” to be saying????
I can’t stop laughing.😂
 
There are hundreds. So many, some of the more glaring ones get lost in the shuffle. I had mostly forgotten about it but was reminded of it by the recent documentary, "From Russia with Lev."

A recording obtained by ABC News appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired while speaking at a small gathering that included Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman -- two former business associates of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani who have since been indicted in New York.

The recording appears to contradict statements by Trump and support the narrative that has been offered by Parnas during broadcast interviews in recent days. Sources familiar with the recording said the recording was made during an intimate April 30, 2018, dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Trump has said repeatedly he does not know Parnas, a Soviet-born American who has emerged as a wild card in Trump’s impeachment trial, especially in the days since Trump was impeached.

"Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it."


Igor Fruman, one of the men who would be sent to Ukraine at trump's direction to dig up dirt on the Biden's, recorded the conversation at the dinner. Fruman and his associate, Lev Parnas, were trying to buy an Ukrainian energy company that had put itself up for sale. But they felt they needed to get US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, out of the way. So at the dinner (BTW..Parnas and Fruman were known to have ties to the Russian mafia but here they were consorting with trump) Parnas baselessly accused Yovanovitch of bad mouthing trump who immediately told staff to have her fired.

Lev Parnas, an associate of Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, talks with Rachel Maddow in an exclusive interview about the difficulty Donald Trump had getting someone in his administration to fire the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, ultimately adopting a smear campaign to help cover her dismissal.

Ousted ambassador gives deeply personal account of firing by Trump


There's a lot to unpack here. trump consorting with Ukrainian criminals........then lying about knowing them. trump having Parnas and Fruman sent to dig up dirt on Joe and his kid (culminating with trump's extortion of Zelensky to announce an investigation in to the Biden's). trump routinely checking with Giuliani about Lev and Igor's progress. Giuliani feeding false info to Faux which would immediately be broadcast in order to smear the Biden's for trump's electoral benefit.

As with all the other disqualifying incidents trump was up to his eyeballs in, this one is also dismissed by The Following. Denying/downplaying it by way of a variety of methods. Mostly by refusing the accept the facts and the sworn testimony of dozens of witnesses.

Because once they admit to themselves the reporting on this incident is accurate, it opens a can of worms that can't be closed. Accepting the truth of this story not only disqualifies trump as a candidate for the presidency, it creates a domino affect giving credibility to all the other incidents they have denied. And as we know, the truth is not their friend.
Trump's severe personality disorder makes him unfit.
 
I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about corruption in Ukraine here.
Pence’s involvement in key events leading to the impeachment inquiry began as the administration compiled a delegation to attend Zelensky’s inauguration this spring and extends through a September trip to Ukraine and call with the Ukrainian President.

According to the whistleblower’s declassified complaint, Pence had been expected to lead the US delegation to Zelensky’s inauguration on May 20, but was instructed by Trump to cancel the trip. Energy Secretary Rick Perry traveled to Ukraine in his stead.

“I learned from US officials that, on or around 14 May, the President instructed Vice President Pence to cancel his planned travel to Ukraine to attend President Zelensky’s inauguration on 20 May; Secretary of Energy Rick Perry led the delegation instead. According to these officials, it was also ‘made clear’ to them that the President did not want to meet with Mr. Zelensky until he saw how Zelensky ‘chose to act’ in office,” the whistleblower’s report said.

Testimony from Williams could reveal more details about why Pence did not go on the trip.


We now know why Pence's trip was cancelled. It was scheduled to be a reward to Zelensky for helping with trump's desire to have an investigation of the Biden's announced by the Ukrainian government. Zelensky would not play trump's corrupt game so Pence's attendance at Zelensky's inauguration was cancelled.
 
Trump's severe personality disorder makes him unfit.
But, so much more than that. His months long efforts to get dirt on the Biden's and his firing of Yovanovitch just scratch the surface. If not for the cowardice of Repub senators Don would have been impeached and this national nightmare would have been over.
 
Pence’s involvement in key events leading to the impeachment inquiry began as the administration compiled a delegation to attend Zelensky’s inauguration this spring and extends through a September trip to Ukraine and call with the Ukrainian President.

According to the whistleblower’s declassified complaint, Pence had been expected to lead the US delegation to Zelensky’s inauguration on May 20, but was instructed by Trump to cancel the trip. Energy Secretary Rick Perry traveled to Ukraine in his stead.

“I learned from US officials that, on or around 14 May, the President instructed Vice President Pence to cancel his planned travel to Ukraine to attend President Zelensky’s inauguration on 20 May; Secretary of Energy Rick Perry led the delegation instead. According to these officials, it was also ‘made clear’ to them that the President did not want to meet with Mr. Zelensky until he saw how Zelensky ‘chose to act’ in office,” the whistleblower’s report said.

Testimony from Williams could reveal more details about why Pence did not go on the trip.


We now know why Pence's trip was cancelled. It was scheduled to be a reward to Zelensky for helping with trump's desire to have an investigation of the Biden's announced by the Ukrainian government. Zelensky would not play trump's corrupt game so Pence's attendance at Zelensky's inauguration was cancelled.
Trump was "impeached" for getting too close to the TRUTH of the corruption that is our involvement in Ukraine.

Stalinberg80 knows this.

The sheer amount of DECEPTION and GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT from this poster is amazing to behold. The hubris is off the charts.
And this PUSSY has me on ignore.
:rolleyes:
 
Trump was "impeached" for getting too close to the TRUTH of the corruption that is our involvement in Ukraine.

Stalinberg80 knows this.

The sheer amount of DECEPTION and GASLIGHT THEATRE BULLSHIT from this poster is amazing to behold. The hubris is off the charts.
:rolleyes:
See post #84. Oh, and BTW, go fuck yourself.
 
But, so much more than that. His months long efforts to get dirt on the Biden's and his firing of Yovanovitch just scratch the surface. If not for the cowardice of Repub senators Don would have been impeached and this national nightmare would have been over.
It should have been over for Trump when he mocked that handicapped reporter. But Republicans are moral midgets.
 

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