Ohio Joins The Attempt To Shit on The Constitution and Eliminate The Electoral College

[Nosmo King]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery

DemNazis...

If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!

We are in a Civil War.

And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.

Calm down Skippy.

The constitution was written to be amended from time to time.

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Objecting to un-Americans trying to cheat us out of our vote is being a snowflake?

look jack ass, in every election except for the POTUS election a vote counts for a vote; NOT a fucking representation of a goddamn vote.
If you & all of your 100 plus year old clan of jack asses wanna be living in antiquity, then you go girl but the times they are a changin' & for the better, via a Constitutional mechanism.

bla ......

Well when you can change the Constitution, go for it gal. But you Commies are always looking for ways to get around it because you totally hate the Constitution. I have no idea why you even stay in this country.

Like I said dip shit; the Dems are attempting to make the change via a Constitutional mechanism.

Just because you & your fellow bed wetting Republicunts can't latch onto that; well, that is your fucking problem.

No, they are trying to change the Ohio Constitution, not the US Constitution. The problem with that is the Ohio Constitution doesn't supersede the US Constitution. It works the other way around.

So even if this passes which is a chance in hell, it will be overturned eventually.

What are they looking to change dippy? How their electoral votes are counted? They have the right to do that under the US Constitution

So do you want your state's electoral votes based on California and New York votes?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about a state deciding how the electoral votes are apportioned. You may not like it but hey...tough shit

Yes, there is. You are just too stupid to realize that basing your electoral college votes on the results from outside your state is NOT a republican government as guaranteed in the Constitution because your state's residents will not be voting for their electors, but those selected by the voters in other states. It is a simple fact that it violates the Constitution.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery

DemNazis...

If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!

We are in a Civil War.

And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.

Calm down Skippy.

The constitution was written to be amended from time to time.

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

It does not do that. The number of electoral votes is determined by the number of representatives in Congress. That is not specified in the Constitution and can be changed by a simple act of Congress signed by the President.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about a state deciding how the electoral votes are apportioned. You may not like it but hey...tough shit

Good, let em do it. I'm looking forward to another civil war. This time conservatives vs liberals.

You people are dangerous and violent

You are stupid and a wimp! I'll take dangerous and violent every time in warfare.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What they are basically saying is that the EC will be forced to ignore the voters of their state, and vote with the national majority against the will of the states voters. This eliminates the entire concept of the electoral college and switches it to a national popular vote.

Oh gee. Does it do that?

Oh well. It's legal

Nope. You have not explained even one reason why it would be legal versus all of the reasons put forth in this thread why it is unconstitutional.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What they are basically saying is that the EC will be forced to ignore the voters of their state, and vote with the national majority against the will of the states voters. This eliminates the entire concept of the electoral college and switches it to a national popular vote.

Oh gee. Does it do that?

Oh well. It's legal

Oh well, Democrats are commies too.

This is exactly why we need to divide this country and have two countries instead. We need to separate once and for all and have nothing to do with each other. Put a line north to south dividing the country into the west section and the east section. Have one election (yes a popular vote) and see which side the Democrats get and which side the Republicans get. Put up a huge Trump wall to keep the Democrats out of our side.

The line should be east west along the Mason-Dixon line. Libs in California would be forced to move north to suffer in Washington state. That way we can keep almost all of the military bases and the warmer weather. The Northern libs country could then just merge with Canada.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Except for Article I Section 10:1, sure.

You're unaware of the fact that states can apportion their EC votes as they see fit?

Add that to the list

They cannot base their votes on results outside of their state. That is not a republican form of government. It is an abortion.

 

[Nosmo King]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Calm down Skippy.

The constitution was written to be amended from time to time.

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

It does not do that. The number of electoral votes is determined by the number of representatives in Congress. That is not specified in the Constitution and can be changed by a simple act of Congress signed by the President.

The population of Wyoming with one congressional district is roughly 586,000 while in the Brooklyn, NY 1st congressional district alone there are more than 684.000. 101,000 votes diluted by the EC

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

It does not do that. The number of electoral votes is determined by the number of representatives in Congress. That is not specified in the Constitution and can be changed by a simple act of Congress signed by the President.

The population of Wyoming with one congressional district is roughly 586,000 while in the Brooklyn, NY 1st congressional district alone there are more than 684.000. 101,000 votes diluted by the EC

Listen up, dumbass!

The Electoral College is based on the number of Representatives, Senators and 3 electoral votes from DC based on the 23rd Amendment. There are 435 Reps, 100 Senators and three votes for DC, for a total of 538 electoral votes. That is why you need 270 to win, and 269 to tie.

The Electoral College does not say that Wyoming gets 1 vote for every 586.000 people. The Constitution says it gets ONE Representative and TWO Senators. The number of Representatives in NY that causes them to have fewer reps is the cap on 435 Representatives which is NOT in the Constitution! It is merely a public law changed numerous times throughout our nation's history.

The Electoral College hasn't got a damn thing to do with anything you are talking about. Perhaps if I had taught your government class you might have learned something! You were obviously taught by a liberal shithead or slept through that lecture!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Strange how you guys are for State's rights....until you're not.

How is it state’s rights for one state to take away the vote of other states?

Voter in the smaller states actually count more than voters in other states. How is that fair?

Don't like it? Change the law. The Constitution does not specify how many members there are in the House.

Changing the law means amending the constitution. That moves incrementally.

Bullshit. You can't explain what you are talking about and that is why you didn't! You are simply a dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery

DemNazis...

If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!

We are in a Civil War.

And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.

Calm down Skippy.

The constitution was written to be amended from time to time.

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

Why are votes scared, dumbass?

 

[Nosmo King]

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

It does not do that. The number of electoral votes is determined by the number of representatives in Congress. That is not specified in the Constitution and can be changed by a simple act of Congress signed by the President.

The population of Wyoming with one congressional district is roughly 586,000 while in the Brooklyn, NY 1st congressional district alone there are more than 684.000. 101,000 votes diluted by the EC

Listen up, dumbass!

The Electoral College is based on the number of Representatives, Senators and 3 electoral votes from DC based on the 23rd Amendment. There are 435 Reps, 100 Senators and three votes for DC, for a total of 538 electoral votes. That is why you need 270 to win, and 269 to tie.

The Electoral College does not say that Wyoming gets 1 vote for every 586.000 people. The Constitution says it gets ONE Representative and TWO Senators. The number of Representatives in NY that causes them to have fewer reps is the cap on 435 Representatives which is NOT in the Constitution! It is merely a public law changed numerous times throughout our nation's history.

The Electoral College hasn't got a damn thing to do with anything you are talking about. Perhaps if I had taught your government class you might have learned something! You were obviously taught by a liberal shithead or slept through that lecture!

The point is Wyoming could stand to gain another 100,000 people before it gets a second congressional district.

You're right. One elector per congressman and senator from each state. But when, in Wyoming's case, as well as West Virginia, with only 1 congressional district, the lower populations of these state have more electoral power per capital than elsewhere

 

[WheelieAddict]

Trump isn't popular, can't get the popular vote. Sad!

 

[Nosmo King]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Calm down Skippy.

The constitution was written to be amended from time to time.

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

Why are votes scared, dumbass?

Historically voters have been scared. Currently voters are being unlawfully purged from rolls, disenfranchised due to ID laws, repressed by eliminating polling stations and absurdly marginalized by gerrymandering.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

It does not do that. The number of electoral votes is determined by the number of representatives in Congress. That is not specified in the Constitution and can be changed by a simple act of Congress signed by the President.

The population of Wyoming with one congressional district is roughly 586,000 while in the Brooklyn, NY 1st congressional district alone there are more than 684.000. 101,000 votes diluted by the EC

Listen up, dumbass!

The Electoral College is based on the number of Representatives, Senators and 3 electoral votes from DC based on the 23rd Amendment. There are 435 Reps, 100 Senators and three votes for DC, for a total of 538 electoral votes. That is why you need 270 to win, and 269 to tie.

The Electoral College does not say that Wyoming gets 1 vote for every 586.000 people. The Constitution says it gets ONE Representative and TWO Senators. The number of Representatives in NY that causes them to have fewer reps is the cap on 435 Representatives which is NOT in the Constitution! It is merely a public law changed numerous times throughout our nation's history.

The Electoral College hasn't got a damn thing to do with anything you are talking about. Perhaps if I had taught your government class you might have learned something! You were obviously taught by a liberal shithead or slept through that lecture!

The point is Wyoming could stand to gain another 100,000 people before it gets a second congressional district.

You're right. One elector per congressman and senator from each state. But when, in Wyoming's case, as well as West Virginia, with only 1 congressional district, the lower populations of these state have more electoral power per capital than elsewhere

Yes, I am right and your caterwauling about the Electoral College being the reason is just sheer stupidity on your part!

By the way, dumbass, West Virginia has 3 Congressional Reps and thus 5 electoral votes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

By diluting individual votes. Where every vote is scared and must weigh equally.

Why are votes scared, dumbass?

Historically voters have been scared. Currently voters are being unlawfully purged from rolls, disenfranchised due to ID laws, repressed by eliminating polling stations and absurdly marginalized by gerrymandering.

How can an action be scared? You just made something up to cover your continued display of being a dumbass!

 

[Aldo Raine]

Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery

DemNazis...

If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!

We are in a Civil War.

And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.

hey fuck face; Ohio is a RED STATE so, why in Hell are U bitching?

Oh, that's right; U have to bitch about everything that does not align with your right wing Nazi Trump agenda.

Cheers

Sorry uninformed voter, Ohio is not a red state. We voted for DumBama twice. We are a swing state.

Ray this is a red state through and through.

No dipshit, the Democrats just can’t win Ohio with only the far left, like they do in every blue state.

A red state would have thrown out Sherrod.

It is red if they want to beat Brown they need to find a better candidate then Renasty, Howie Mandel, or keibler elf DeWhinner!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is not an amendment.

It is illegal legislation designed to steal EC votes and throw them to a candidate that did not win that state!

Ohioans might vote to ditch Electoral College. Who's behind the effort? That's a mystery

DemNazis...

If you cannot win fair, you need to change The Rules so you can cheat!

We are in a Civil War.

And The Dems are Invading this country from The Southern Border and attacking our Constitution in our courts and legislatures.

Calm down Skippy.

The constitution was written to be amended from time to time.

Only in America can the candidate who wins fewer votes can get elected.

Doesn't that seem like a bad way to run a democratic republic?

Yes! It prevents New York and California from deciding every presidential election.

New York and Cali accounted for 16% of the total number of votes in the 2016 election. That is not enough to "decide every presidential election". especially considering their votes were split pretty much 60/40.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The electoral college was born of slave owners to protect slavery from the abolitionist north. It's origins are tainted and it's original purpose no longer exists. People like to explain that it protects rural voters from irrelevance but what it really does is make minority party votes worthless. If you vote democrat in a red state or republican in a blue state your vote has probably never counted. I want my vote to count.

/——/ At the time of the Constitution northern states held slaves as well. You did know that, didn’t you.