They are busting Trump rght now in court

[Marener]

Looking for votes isn't the same thing as creating them, Marener. If Trump had called up and demanded that they manufacture 10,000 votes for him then he'd be guilty. He didn't do that. He called and asked them to look for votes. LOOK FOR THEM!

Alternate electors IS an option...not one that was viable...but it had been done before. It's not illegal. It's not fraudulent. That's something that is decided in a court of law.

How is what Trump did any different than what Al Gore did in Florida? Gore's seeking to change vote totals in Florida would have "eliminated" the votes of millions of Americans if he'd been successful! That doesn't mean he was engaged in "fraud" when he asked for multiple recounts!

Technically Trump was asking Georgia to eliminate some legal votes, not manufacture new ones. Just eliminate enough votes to make him the winner. He didn’t demand they invent 10,000 votes, he demanded they get rid of 11,780 votes. Just enough so that he would win.

Fake electors were used back in the 19th century when elections were super corrupt. They’re not legal. The fact that they were used back when elections were corrupt doesn’t prove anything. Fake electors are fraudulent electors and their intent was to defraud the government and take away our legal votes.

Gore asked the state to do recounts by going through the courts. He was asking for more votes to be counted, not fewer.

Trump started with the courts but then he kept losing. So he went around the courts and tried illegal corrupt maneuvers to take away our votes. He wasn’t asking for recounts. He was asking for a specific outcome by specifically taking away specific democratic votes because he didn’t like how they voted.

 

[Marener]

Did any of the protesters even muss the hair of any politicians that day? They were there to stop the certification of an election that they thought was fraudulent. Period. Full stop! When you hang someone if effigy you're not guilty of lynching...you're making a political statement. That "gallows" was a prop! You know it yet you still hold that up as proof that the Jan. 6th protesters wanted to murder someone.

Oh, so they had good intentions for wanting to murder the nation’s highest political leaders.

They said they wanted to murder people. Are we not supposed to take that seriously?

 

[struth]

Technically Trump was asking Georgia to eliminate some legal votes, not manufacture new ones. Just eliminate enough votes to make him the winner. He didn’t demand they invent 10,000 votes, he demanded they get rid of 11,780 votes. Just enough so that he would win.

Fake electors were used back in the 19th century when elections were super corrupt. They’re not legal. The fact that they were used back when elections were corrupt doesn’t prove anything. Fake electors are fraudulent electors and their intent was to defraud the government and take away our legal votes.

Gore asked the state to do recounts by going through the courts. He was asking for more votes to be counted, not fewer.

Trump started with the courts but then he kept losing. So he went around the courts and tried illegal corrupt maneuvers to take away our votes. He wasn’t asking for recounts. He was asking for a specific outcome by specifically taking away specific democratic votes because he didn’t like how they voted.

Says more about your dembot mind that you thought trump was asking to toss votes…this is why you all are a clear and present danger to our republic

Gore and rbe dems were also asking that legally cast mail in ballots from military personal not be counted

 

[Man With A Plan]

Technically Trump was asking Georgia to eliminate some legal votes, not manufacture new ones. Just eliminate enough votes to make him the winner. He didn’t demand they invent 10,000 votes, he demanded they get rid of 11,780 votes. Just enough so that he would win.

Fake electors were used back in the 19th century when elections were super corrupt. They’re not legal. The fact that they were used back when elections were corrupt doesn’t prove anything. Fake electors are fraudulent electors and their intent was to defraud the government and take away our legal votes.

Gore asked the state to do recounts by going through the courts. He was asking for more votes to be counted, not fewer.

Trump started with the courts but then he kept losing. So he went around the courts and tried illegal corrupt maneuvers to take away our votes. He wasn’t asking for recounts. He was asking for a specific outcome by specifically taking away specific democratic votes because he didn’t like how they voted.

When did Trump ask Georgia to eliminate legal votes? Quote where he said that in the phone call that he's being charged over?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Oh, so they had good intentions for wanting to murder the nation’s highest political leaders.

They said they wanted to murder people. Are we not supposed to take that seriously?

So we should arrest Kathy Griffin for murder?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Jail Madonna for saying she'd like to kill Trump?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Put Robert DeNiro in the slammer?

 

[Man With A Plan]

The entire cast of the NYC Public Theatre...charge them with conspiracy to commit murder?

 

[Marener]

Says more about your dembot mind that you thought trump was asking to toss votes…this is why you all are a clear and present danger to our republic

Gore and rbe dems were also asking that legally cast mail in ballots from military personal not be counted

Unlike you, I actually listened to the tape.

Who did Gore ask?

 

[Marener]

So we should arrest Kathy Griffin for murder?

What a bizarre thing to say! I never said anyone should be charged with murder.

 

[struth]

Unlike you, I actually listened to the tape.

Who did Gore ask?

I did too. Nowhere did he say what you claimed

The State of Florida

 

[Man With A Plan]

What a bizarre thing to say! I never said anyone should be charged with murder.

You want the Jan. 6th protesters to be charged because they had a mock up of a gallows and chanted threats against Mike Pence! So do we throw liberals in the clink for doing the same thing?

 

[Marener]

When did Trump ask Georgia to eliminate legal votes? Quote where he said that in the phone call that he's being charged over?

It’s on the tape. He was telling Raffensperger that large numbers of votes were “illegal” and should be eliminated. 11,780 votes needed to be eliminated. That’s what he needed to win.

Raffensperger politely explained they were all legal votes, but you see the problem here. If a corrupt politician were to agree to Trump’s demands, then that corrupt politician could just name the winner in any election by deciding some votes weren’t legal.

Thats the threat. If we don’t make this illegal, that’s what comes down the line.

 

[struth]

It’s on the tape. He was telling Raffensperger that large numbers of votes were “illegal” and should be eliminated. 11,780 votes needed to be eliminated. That’s what he needed to win.

Raffensperger politely explained they were all legal votes, but you see the problem here. If a corrupt politician were to agree to Trump’s demands, then that corrupt politician could just name the winner in any election by deciding some votes weren’t legal.

Thats the threat. If we don’t make this illegal, that’s what comes down the line.

Haha that is absolutely not on the tape

 

[Marener]

I did too. Nowhere did he say what you claimed

The State of Florida

Listen to it again. You missed the context.

How does someone ask “the state of Florida”?

 

[Man With A Plan]

It’s on the tape. He was telling Raffensperger that large numbers of votes were “illegal” and should be eliminated. 11,780 votes needed to be eliminated. That’s what he needed to win.

Raffensperger politely explained they were all legal votes, but you see the problem here. If a corrupt politician were to agree to Trump’s demands, then that corrupt politician could just name the winner in any election by deciding some votes weren’t legal.

Thats the threat. If we don’t make this illegal, that’s what comes down the line.

Show me the quote.

 

[struth]

Listen to it again. You missed the context.

How does someone ask “the state of Florida”?

Yes I missed yoj making things up. Haha

 

[Man With A Plan]

Show me the quote.

Or a corrupt politician could decide any election by declaring votes legal that shouldn't be. So what's your point? Other than we need to have paper ballots and valid ID in order to vote so it isn't up to politicians to decide our elections?

 

[Marener]

Show me the quote.

I mean, that’s what he spends most of the time talking about on the tape. This is part of his opening rambling discussion:

We had, I believe it’s about 4,502 voters who voted but who weren’t on the voter registration list, so it’s 4,502 who voted but they weren’t on the voter registration roll which they had to be. You had 18,325 vacant address voters. The address was vacant and they’re not allowed to be counted. That’s 18,325.

Smaller number — you had 904 who only voted where they had just a P.O. — a post office box number — and they had a post office box number and that’s not allowed. We had at least 18,000 — that’s on tape we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, a professional vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that’s been shown all over the world that makes everybody look bad, you me and everybody else.

Where they got — number one they said very clearly and it’s been reported they said there was a major water main break. Everybody fled the area. And then they came back, [name] and her daughter and a few people. There were no Republican poll watchers. Actually, there were no Democrat poll watchers, I guess they were them. But there were no Democrats, either and there was no law enforcement. Late in the morning, they went early in the morning they went to the table with the black robe, the black shield and they pulled out the votes. Those votes were put there a number of hours before the table was put there. I think it was, Brad you would know, it was probably eight hours or seven hours before and then it was stuffed with votes.

They weren’t in an official voter box, but they were in what looked to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases but they weren’t in voter boxes. The minimum number it could be because we watched it and they watched it certified in slow motion instant replay if you can believe it but slow motion and it was magnified many times over and the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.


He’s talking exclusively about votes he doesn’t think should be counted.

 

[Marener]

Or a corrupt politician could decide any election by declaring votes legal that shouldn't be. So what's your point? Other than we need to have paper ballots and valid ID in order to vote so it isn't up to politicians to decide our elections?

Yes! Exactly. My point is these attempts by politicians to change the election results are illegal and should be prosecuted.