14 year old boy sentenced to 12 years for stabbing attack

[Shusha]

Response to Eloy

His list of examples of State Terrorism:

• use of live ammunition in response to demonstrations
• use of live bullets in response to demonstrations
• arrests outside specific hours
• harassing children with being arrested
• harassing parents of children during arrests of their children
• random killing of children and youth using live ammunition by snipers
• restrictions of movement throughout territory
• restriction of movement during holidays of another faith
• arrest of children
• interrogation of children without presence of parents
• delays at checkpoints
• demolishing homes of families of terrorists
• having rocks thrown by civilians without law enforcement to prevent
• forbidden to care for agricultural resources
• destruction of agricultural resources
• usurping of agricultural resources
• usurping of water
• lack of ability to prevent firebombing
• torture of arrestees
• military response to war crimes
• assassination of Palestinian government officials
• blockades which prevent importation of construction materials
• restriction on fishing past a certain point

Discuss.

 

[Hollie]

Then stop justifying terrorism. The next time someone brings up the stabbing of a Jewish Israeli, make the response, "that is abhorrent".

State terrorism by Israel should be condemned.

Define "state terrorism". Differentiate it from law enforcement, military conflict, and self-defense.

That's easy: Terrorism is when civilians are targeted for murder or harsh treatment to promote a political goal. For example, when the Palestinian civilians in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, when demonstrating against the Israeli occupation are fired on using live ammunition and children are shot in the head with rubber bullets, when homes of Palestinian families are raided at any hour of the day and night by agents of the Jewish state, the Israel Defense Force (IDF), in order to frighten and harass children and their parents, when snipers use lethal bullets to randomly kill children and youths, when Palestinians are forbidden to be in areas of the towns because Israeli settlers want to live there or celebrate one of the Jewish holidays, when children are arrested and taken for interrogation without the presence of their parents, when Palestinians are forbidden to freely travel in their homeland and are subjected to long delays at checkpoints, when the homes of youths who have been shot dead are demolished, when Palestinian children on their way to school are pelted by rocks thrown by settlers while the Israeli army look on, when Palestinian farmers are forbidden to tent to their olive groves are prevented by the military or when the olive trees are burned by settlers, when the Israeli military allow settlers to take the best agricultural land and water resources under the protection of their military who do not stop homes being firebombed by settlers sometimes causing the deaths of families, when captured Palestinians labeled terrorists are further tortured and shot sometimes when disabled and in military custody, when periodically the IDF massacres and maim thousands of civilians in Gaza, using missiles and shelling by land, air, and sea, targeting hospitals, schools, children at play, and concentrated civilian neighborhoods, when the politicians representing Palestinian peopled are assassinated, when Palestinians in Gaza are restricted to travel and under a blockade that prevents the importation of construction materials to rebuild destroyed infrastructure such as water treatment plants, when Palestinian fishermen are forbidden to fish in their waters and restricted under fire from fishing beyond 3 nautical miles, when all of this is done to further the political goal of Israel to deny the Palestinian people freedom and entrench the occupation then you have state terrorism.

That is a long list of items. Thank you for being so thorough. I will have a fuller response later this evening. In the meantime, can you please address my request to differentiate between military conflict, law enforcement and self-defense.

For example, your first item is the use of live ammunition against protesters. Why wouldn't that fit into the category of law enforcement?

Appealing to law enforcement, one has to ask, whose law? In the Israeli/Palestine conflict, international law states that Israel should end its occupation/blockade which has been ignored by the Israelis for nigh on half a century. The Palestinians in the Occupied Territories are subjected to IDF martial law which is not recognized as valid by the Palestinians. Israeli settlers in contrast are not subject to martial law but Israeli criminal and civil law -- a double standard. Actions by the IDF designed to enforce the occupation/blockade can be resisted by a terrorized population.

It's not surprising that you and others demand an entitlement to Islamic terrorism without consequences. Completely absent in your list of grievances and claims to "resistance" is the Israeli right to respond to those acts of "resistance" by Islamic terrorist organizations.

Ultimately, it's a cruel joke for you and others to whine about Islamic terrorism as "resistance" when those same Islamic terrorist franchises are operating under the banner of gee-had and in furtherance of the Hamas charter.

 

[Phoenall]

Then stop justifying terrorism. The next time someone brings up the stabbing of a Jewish Israeli, make the response, "that is abhorrent".

State terrorism by Israel should be condemned.

Define "state terrorism". Differentiate it from law enforcement, military conflict, and self-defense.

That's easy: Terrorism is when civilians are targeted for murder or harsh treatment to promote a political goal. For example, when the Palestinian civilians in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, when demonstrating against the Israeli occupation are fired on using live ammunition and children are shot in the head with rubber bullets, when homes of Palestinian families are raided at any hour of the day and night by agents of the Jewish state, the Israel Defense Force (IDF), in order to frighten and harass children and their parents, when snipers use lethal bullets to randomly kill children and youths, when Palestinians are forbidden to be in areas of the towns because Israeli settlers want to live there or celebrate one of the Jewish holidays, when children are arrested and taken for interrogation without the presence of their parents, when Palestinians are forbidden to freely travel in their homeland and are subjected to long delays at checkpoints, when the homes of youths who have been shot dead are demolished, when Palestinian children on their way to school are pelted by rocks thrown by settlers while the Israeli army look on, when Palestinian farmers are forbidden to tent to their olive groves are prevented by the military or when the olive trees are burned by settlers, when the Israeli military allow settlers to take the best agricultural land and water resources under the protection of their military who do not stop homes being firebombed by settlers sometimes causing the deaths of families, when captured Palestinians labeled terrorists are further tortured and shot sometimes when disabled and in military custody, when periodically the IDF massacres and maim thousands of civilians in Gaza, using missiles and shelling by land, air, and sea, targeting hospitals, schools, children at play, and concentrated civilian neighborhoods, when the politicians representing Palestinian peopled are assassinated, when Palestinians in Gaza are restricted to travel and under a blockade that prevents the importation of construction materials to rebuild destroyed infrastructure such as water treatment plants, when Palestinian fishermen are forbidden to fish in their waters and restricted under fire from fishing beyond 3 nautical miles, when all of this is done to further the political goal of Israel to deny the Palestinian people freedom and entrench the occupation then you have state terrorism.

That is a long list of items. Thank you for being so thorough. I will have a fuller response later this evening. In the meantime, can you please address my request to differentiate between military conflict, law enforcement and self-defense.

For example, your first item is the use of live ammunition against protesters. Why wouldn't that fit into the category of law enforcement?

Appealing to law enforcement, one has to ask, whose law? In the Israeli/Palestine conflict, international law states that Israel should end its occupation/blockade which has been ignored by the Israelis for nigh on half a century. The Palestinians in the Occupied Territories are subjected to IDF martial law which is not recognized as valid by the Palestinians. Israeli settlers in contrast are not subject to martial law but Israeli criminal and civil law -- a double standard. Actions by the IDF designed to enforce the occupation/blockade can be resisted by a terrorized population.

What international law says that then, give the details.

The arab muslims are subject to the law of the land as it was when Israel occupied the land, in this case Jordanian law which is not subject to outside interpretations by you. And is valid under international law

Israeli Settlers are subject to Israeli laws as stated in international law, and as we have discussed on here every year when new morons come on and try to change international laws.

But they cant use deadly force or try and harm any member of the Israeli armed forces then they are subject to martial laws that will see them facing life in prison.


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[Preacher]

Court in Israel sentences Palestinian teenager to twelve years in prison for stabbing attack.

Too much? Not enough?

Personally, I think he should be sentenced to 12 years of a re-education with an Israeli family, but that is probably a tad unrealistic in more ways than one.

How Communistic of you. Course Jews invented communism so guess it fits.

 

[Phoenall]

Court in Israel sentences Palestinian teenager to twelve years in prison for stabbing attack.

Too much? Not enough?

Personally, I think he should be sentenced to 12 years of a re-education with an Israeli family, but that is probably a tad unrealistic in more ways than one.

How Communistic of you. Course Jews invented communism so guess it fits.

Did they, I thought it came from Africa with the rise of ancient man and bonding as a unit for protection