2016ers embrace flag removal after hedging

[guno]

They think people don't notice.





All of a sudden, Republican presidential candidates found a position on the Confederate flag Monday.

In the days after the racially-motivated massacre of nine African-Americans at a church in Charleston, many of the GOP candidates tried to skirt the issue of the Confederate flag -- calling for prayer, a time for grieving, and support for the families of the nine victims. In some cases, they chided reporters for bringing up "politics" at such a sensitive time.

But within seconds of South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley's statement that South Carolina should honor its heritage but remove the flag from state grounds -- and her pledge to use her authority to force the legislature to deal with the issue this summer -- the candidates dispensed with their maneuvering and articulated clearer positions on the flag.


2016ers embrace Confederate flag removal after hedging - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Valerie]

you have to give jeb credit...

Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush weighed in on the controversy Saturday, in a statement that suggested the state should move the flag. Bush, the former governor of Florida, said that state moved the Confederate flag from state grounds "to a museum where it belonged."

Mitt Romney Joins Call for Confederate Flag to Come Down After Shooting - NBC News

 

[Valerie]

June 20, 2015

Former Florida governor Jeb Bush said in a statement that "My position on how to address the Confederate flag is clear. In Florida we acted, moving the flag from the state grounds to a museum where it belonged."


In 2001, Bush ordered the removal of the Confederate flag from the Florida State Capitol, where it had flown since 1978.


But Bush's statement didn't explicitly call on South Carolina to do the same: "This is obviously a very sensitive time in South Carolina and our prayers are with the families, the AME church community and the entire state. Following a period of mourning there will rightly be a discussion among leaders in the state about how South Carolina should move forward, and I'm confident they will do the right thing."

Mitt Romney s opposition to Confederate flag puts GOP s current presidential candidates on the spot - The Washington Post

 

[DarkFury]

They think people don't notice.





All of a sudden, Republican presidential candidates found a position on the Confederate flag Monday.

In the days after the racially-motivated massacre of nine African-Americans at a church in Charleston, many of the GOP candidates tried to skirt the issue of the Confederate flag -- calling for prayer, a time for grieving, and support for the families of the nine victims. In some cases, they chided reporters for bringing up "politics" at such a sensitive time.

But within seconds of South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley's statement that South Carolina should honor its heritage but remove the flag from state grounds -- and her pledge to use her authority to force the legislature to deal with the issue this summer -- the candidates dispensed with their maneuvering and articulated clearer positions on the flag.


2016ers embrace Confederate flag removal after hedging - CNNPolitics.com

Nikki Haley is a Tea Party member. The highest ranking elected Tea Party member. The flag is a STATE ISSUE and not an issue or subject for YOU German nazi's. Get you faggot ass back across the cyber boarder and shut the hell up.

 

[PredFan]

Ahem....

 

[DarkFury]

Just a little DEMOCRAT history for you...

Lawrence Beitler took this iconic photograph on August 7, 1930. It showed the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith, two young black men from the John Robinson show circus accused by a teenager of raping his white girlfriend (This accusation was subsequently found to be a lie). A mob of 10,000 whites took sledgehammers to the county jailhouse doors to get these men; the girl’s uncle saved the life of a third by proclaiming the man’s innocence. Lynching photos were made into postcards to show off civic pride and white supremacy, but the tortured bodies and grotesquely happy crowds ended up angering and revolting as many as they scared. The photo sold thousands of copies, which Beitler stayed up for 10 days and nights printing them.

Ironically, this photo which had become iconic image of lynchings was taken at Marion, Indiana, whereas most of the nearly 5,000 lynchings documented between Reconstruction and the late 1960s were perpetrated in the South. (Hangings, beatings and mutilations were called the sentence of “Judge Lynch.”) The photo was so iconic that it has been the inspiration for many poems, books and songs down the years, “Strange Fruit” by the Jewish poet Abel Meeropol (later sung by Billie Holiday) being the best example. Every time you hear Bob Dylan’s somewhat hard-to-listen-to Desolation Row, the first line you heard is “They’re selling postcards of the hanging”, inspired by the above photo.

The primary source for these events is A Time of Terror, which is an eyewitness account by James Cameron, the third black youth who was saved.

 

[protectionist]

Just a little DEMOCRAT history for you...

Lawrence Beitler took this iconic photograph on August 7, 1930. It showed the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith, two young black men from the John Robinson show circus accused by a teenager of raping his white girlfriend (This accusation was subsequently found to be a lie). A mob of 10,000 whites took sledgehammers to the county jailhouse doors to get these men; the girl’s uncle saved the life of a third by proclaiming the man’s innocence. Lynching photos were made into postcards to show off civic pride and white supremacy, but the tortured bodies and grotesquely happy crowds ended up angering and revolting as many as they scared. The photo sold thousands of copies, which Beitler stayed up for 10 days and nights printing them.

Ironically, this photo which had become iconic image of lynchings was taken at Marion, Indiana, whereas most of the nearly 5,000 lynchings documented between Reconstruction and the late 1960s were perpetrated in the South. (Hangings, beatings and mutilations were called the sentence of “Judge Lynch.”) The photo was so iconic that it has been the inspiration for many poems, books and songs down the years, “Strange Fruit” by the Jewish poet Abel Meeropol (later sung by Billie Holiday) being the best example. Every time you hear Bob Dylan’s somewhat hard-to-listen-to Desolation Row, the first line you heard is “They’re selling postcards of the hanging”, inspired by the above photo.

The primary source for these events is A Time of Terror, which is an eyewitness account by James Cameron, the third black youth who was saved.

This could easily be offset by thousands of pictures of murdered white people, killed by blacks. What's your point ?

 

[protectionist]

In total, 67% don't see the flag as negative (which includes 10% of blacks who see it as positive), VS >> only 30% who see it as negative.
But I hope this doesn't break your hearts flag removers , but that flag has NO CHANCE OF BEING REMOVED. It has to get a 2/3 vote in the SC house which is 63% Republican + must get 2/3 vote in SC Senate, which is 61% Republican.

Now here's the REAL bad news for you flag removers. State Senator Tom Davis, a Republican who supports the proposal, said there were a number of potential procedural complications.

The General Assembly is currently in session by virtue of a “sine die” resolution that allows lawmakers to take up specifically enumerated issues. To address the flag issue, Mr. Davis said, the resolution would have to be amended — and that, he said, would take a two-thirds vote in each house.

So there would have to be FOUR 2/3 VOTES, (all going in direct opposition to a southern Republican majority).

Flag removers. Don't bet your paycheck on this.

 

[DarkFury]

Just a little DEMOCRAT history for you...

Lawrence Beitler took this iconic photograph on August 7, 1930. It showed the lynching of Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith, two young black men from the John Robinson show circus accused by a teenager of raping his white girlfriend (This accusation was subsequently found to be a lie). A mob of 10,000 whites took sledgehammers to the county jailhouse doors to get these men; the girl’s uncle saved the life of a third by proclaiming the man’s innocence. Lynching photos were made into postcards to show off civic pride and white supremacy, but the tortured bodies and grotesquely happy crowds ended up angering and revolting as many as they scared. The photo sold thousands of copies, which Beitler stayed up for 10 days and nights printing them.

Ironically, this photo which had become iconic image of lynchings was taken at Marion, Indiana, whereas most of the nearly 5,000 lynchings documented between Reconstruction and the late 1960s were perpetrated in the South. (Hangings, beatings and mutilations were called the sentence of “Judge Lynch.”) The photo was so iconic that it has been the inspiration for many poems, books and songs down the years, “Strange Fruit” by the Jewish poet Abel Meeropol (later sung by Billie Holiday) being the best example. Every time you hear Bob Dylan’s somewhat hard-to-listen-to Desolation Row, the first line you heard is “They’re selling postcards of the hanging”, inspired by the above photo.

The primary source for these events is A Time of Terror, which is an eyewitness account by James Cameron, the third black youth who was saved.

This could easily be offset by thousands of pictures of murdered white people, killed by blacks. What's your point ?

Just reviewing some DEMOCRAT history.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Has anyone counted how many "flag" threads goono has started ?

Can you spell O-B-S-E-S-S-I-O-N ?