2024 undecided voters.

[Supposn]

2024 undecided voters:

The 2024 general elections in the USA, as were last few previous presidential elections, is expected to be won by comparatively small differences of numbers of votes cast for the two leading candidates in a few key states.

Trump having been found guilty of causing falsifying of business records for the purpose of enabling and/or concealing another crime, has not substantially changed the proportion of voters who firmly intend to vote for or against Trump in the 2024 general elections. The presiding judge has ordered Trump to appear in court to be sentenced on the 11th of July.

If 2024 undecided or less decided voters perceive trump's sentence to be comparatively harsh, (particularly if the sentence hinders Trump from traveling and campaigning throughout the USA, more of those less decided voters will decide in favor of Trump.

If 2024 undecided or less decided voters perceive trump's sentence to be comparatively mild, they may perceive the sentence to reflect Judge's
evaluation of the crime's severity, and more of those less decided voters will decide in favor of Trump.

I prefer the judge pronounce his reluctance to influence the 2024elections, and order Trump to return for sentencing on the 12th of November, a day after Veteran's Day and a week after Election Day, because I prefer he not again be elected president of the USA.
Respectfully, Supposn

 

[kyzr]

"Lawfare" won't matter.

Democrats cheat, always have, always will.

 

[Harry Dresden]

2024 undecided voters:

The 2024 general elections in the USA, as were last few previous presidential elections, is expected to be won by comparatively small differences of numbers of votes cast for the two leading candidates in a few key states.

Trump having been found guilty of causing falsifying of business records for the purpose of enabling and/or concealing another crime, has not substantially changed the proportion of voters who firmly intend to vote for or against Trump in the 2024 general elections. The presiding judge has ordered Trump to appear in court to be sentenced on the 11th of July.

If 2024 undecided or less decided voters perceive trump's sentence to be comparatively harsh, (particularly if the sentence hinders Trump from traveling and campaigning throughout the USA, more of those less decided voters will decide in favor of Trump.

If 2024 undecided or less decided voters perceive trump's sentence to be comparatively mild, they may perceive the sentence to reflect Judge's
evaluation of the crime's severity, and more of those less decided voters will decide in favor of Trump.

I prefer the judge pronounce his reluctance to influence the 2024elections, and order Trump to return for sentencing on the 12th of November, a day after Veteran's Day and a week after Election Day, because I prefer he not again be elected president of the USA.
Respectfully, Supposn

all that just to say you dont like trump?....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Trump having been found guilty of causing falsifying of business records for the purpose of enabling and/or concealing another crime,

What was the other crime?

 

[konradv]

2024 undecided voters:

The 2024 general elections in the USA, as were last few previous presidential elections, is expected to be won by comparatively small differences of numbers of votes cast for the two leading candidates in a few key states.

Trump having been found guilty of causing falsifying of business records for the purpose of enabling and/or concealing another crime, has not substantially changed the proportion of voters who firmly intend to vote for or against Trump in the 2024 general elections. The presiding judge has ordered Trump to appear in court to be sentenced on the 11th of July.

If 2024 undecided or less decided voters perceive trump's sentence to be comparatively harsh, (particularly if the sentence hinders Trump from traveling and campaigning throughout the USA, more of those less decided voters will decide in favor of Trump.

If 2024 undecided or less decided voters perceive trump's sentence to be comparatively mild, they may perceive the sentence to reflect Judge's
evaluation of the crime's severity, and more of those less decided voters will decide in favor of Trump.

I prefer the judge pronounce his reluctance to influence the 2024elections, and order Trump to return for sentencing on the 12th of November, a day after Veteran's Day and a week after Election Day, because I prefer he not again be elected president of the USA.
Respectfully, Supposn

His travel should be hindered.

#LOCKHIMUP

 

[Harry Dresden]

His travel should be hindered.

#LOCKHIMUP

why?...what are you afraid of?.....you dont think joe can beat him?...

 

[konradv]

why?...what are you afraid of?.....you dont think joe can beat him?...

He’s a convicted felon. It’s the usual outcome.

#2TIERJUSTICESYSTEM

 

[Harry Dresden]

He’s a convicted felon. It’s the usual outcome.

#2TIERJUSTICESYSTEM

that sounds like an excuse....what are you really afraid of?.....

 

[Supposn]

that sounds like an excuse....what are you really afraid of?.....

Harry Dresden & Konradv, I prefer sentence be pronounced upon ex-president trump after the winner of the presidential election is announced, rather than prior to Election Day. Some of those who are now less decided or undecided of how they'll vote, may martyr Trump if they perceive his sentence is too harsh, (particularly if the sentence hiders his ability to travel and campaign within USA's states.

If some of other lesser or undecided voters perceive trump's sentence as mild, they may consider that as an indication of the presiding judge's regard for the seriousness of the underlying crime that Trump enabled and concealed by causing fraudulent entries in his organizations business records.
In both of those cases, regardless of the pronounced sentence, Trump is likely to be more favored by pronouncing sentence upon him prior to the election. Sentencing after Election Day cannot affect the outcome of the election.

The2024 election winner is expected to win due to extremely slim plurality of votes in a few critical states. I don't want Judge Merchen to effectively cause Donald Trump to be again elected President of the USA. Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Catsnmeters]

What was the other crime?

See "other crimes" halfway down page 11.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People-v-DonaldTrump2-15-24Decision.pdf

 

[Supposn]

What was the other [underlying] crime?

Toddssterpatriot, the total costs paid by the Trump organization to enable the purchase of the nondisclosure agreement, was considered to be an “in-kind” contribution for the election of Donald Trump. That contribution exceeded the legal permitted maximum of such a contribution. That was the secondary underlying crime enabled and concealed by the Trump organization.

The jury unanimously voted Donald Trump guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Respectfully,Supposn

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddssterpatriot, the total costs paid by the Trump organization to enable the purchase of the nondisclosure agreement, was considered to be an “in-kind” contribution for the election of Donald Trump. That contribution exceeded the legal permitted maximum of such a contribution. That was the secondary underlying crime enabled and concealed by the Trump organization.

The jury unanimously voted Donald Trump guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Respectfully,Supposn

Sounds like he should be fined.
Assuming that an NDA could ever be considered a contribution.
The FEC decided it wasn't.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

See "other crimes" halfway down page 11.

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People-v-DonaldTrump2-15-24Decision.pdf

Thanks.

How does one 'violate" N.Y. Election Law 17-152

 

[Catsnmeters]

Thanks.

View attachment 966077

How does one 'violate" N.Y. Election Law 17-152

You have to read the entire section.

Your question is answered near the top of page 12.

 

[konradv]

that sounds like an excuse....what are you really afraid of?.....

A conviction isn’t an excuse, it’s a FACT.

#GRIFTERinCHIEF

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have to read the entire section.

Your question is answered near the top of page 12.

They weren't campaign contributions.

There are an infinite number of "schemes" to influence elections.

Should they all be prosecuted?

 

[Catsnmeters]

View attachment 966087

They weren't campaign contributions.

Except Cohen was prosecuted for it at the direction of Trump as the paragraph you highlighted goes on to say.

There are an infinite number of "schemes" to influence elections.

Should they all be prosecuted?

If they falsified business records with the intent to commit another crime in the process...in the state of New York, yes.

 

[Supposn]

Sounds like he should be fined.
Assuming that an NDA could ever be considered a contribution.
The FEC decided it wasn't.

Toddsterpatriot, NDA? FEC, Federal Election Commission?
Excerpted from link:
F.E.C.Drops Case Reviewing Trump Hush-Money Payments to Women - The NewYork Times (nytimes.com)

"In December 2020, the F.E.C. issued an internal report from its Office of General Counsel on how to proceed in its review. The office said it had found “reason to believe” violations of campaign finance law were made “knowingly and willfully” by the Trump campaign.

But the election commission — split evenly between three Republicans and three Democratic-aligned commissioners — declined to proceed in a closed-door meeting in February. Two Republican commissioners voted to dismiss the case while two Democratic commissioners voted to move forward. There was one absence and one Republican recusal.

That decision was announced on Thursday".

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Except Cohen was prosecuted for it at the direction of Trump as the paragraph you highlighted goes on to say.


If they falsified business records with the intent to commit another crime in the process...in the state of New York, yes.

Except Cohen was prosecuted for it

He was prosecuted for tax fraud. They added the fake charge for fun.

If they falsified business records with the intent to commit another crime in the process

Falsifying records to "influence an election" is still only one crime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Toddsterpatriot, NDA? FEC, Federal Election Commission?
Excerpted from link:
F.E.C.Drops Case Reviewing Trump Hush-Money Payments to Women - The NewYork Times (nytimes.com)

"In December 2020, the F.E.C. issued an internal report from its Office of General Counsel on how to proceed in its review. The office said it had found “reason to believe” violations of campaign finance law were made “knowingly and willfully” by the Trump campaign.

But the election commission — split evenly between three Republicans and three Democratic-aligned commissioners — declined to proceed in a closed-door meeting in February. Two Republican commissioners voted to dismiss the case while two Democratic commissioners voted to move forward. There was one absence and one Republican recusal.

That decision was announced on Thursday".

Toddsterpatriot, NDA? FEC, Federal Election Commission?

Non-Disclosure Agreement. Yes, Federal Election Commission.