240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Save the coral, permanently evacuate all of Florida forever

No, just the irrational, foolish deniers would probably do it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Drill, Baby, Drill!
Why should anybody but goofy escapist misfits care about dead sea worms? We should pull the plug on the "Everything Is Connected" cult.

"Why should anybody but goofy escapist misfits care about dead sea worms? "

well, if a guy who knows less than nothing about any of this can't figure out why, i guess nobody can.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Save the coral, permanently evacuate all of Florida forever

No, just the irrational, foolish deniers would probably do it.

The Climategate Deniers want to end Western Civilization

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Save the coral, permanently evacuate all of Florida forever

No, just the irrational, foolish deniers would probably do it.

The Climategate Deniers want to end Western Civilization

Oh no! Thank goodness we have this population of uneducated people with no science knowledge or experience to save us from these oppressive scientists. Unfortunately, this seems to be a uniquely American phenomenon. WHO WILL SAVE THE REST OF THE WORLD?!?!

 

[Confounding]

Unfortunately, this seems to be a uniquely American phenomenon.

It's so embarrassing. The world is laughing at us.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Look how the land masses are changing too!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Look how the land masses are changing too!


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Idiotic comparison, as any honest person looking at the maps in the OP would agree.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

Look at all of the sea creatures killed by Gorebal Warming!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

Look at all of the sea creatures killed by Gorebal Warming!
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Look at the fool trying to pretend he doesn't understand the topic for humor, when it's a fact he doesn't understand the topic...

 

[Weatherman2020]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Look how the land masses are changing too!


View attachment 149709

Idiotic comparison, as any honest person looking at the maps in the OP would agree.

Yes, 250 year old maps were so accurate!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Look how the land masses are changing too!


View attachment 149709

Idiotic comparison, as any honest person looking at the maps in the OP would agree.

Yes, 250 year old maps were so accurate!

some were, actually. and, to demonstrate this, there was a side-by-side comparison of it with a modern map. Of course, being who you are, yo find it rational to say, "sure, everything was accurate, EXCEPT the coral'.... so, so dumb....

 

[Old Rocks]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

. And this means what to science ?

Yes, you truly are that stupid. Coral reefs are the most productive life zone on this planet. But even that means nothing to you. Room temperature IQ's simply cannot recognize the value of that.

 

[Old Rocks]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

It was about this time that Ben Franklin mapped the Gulf Stream. Are you saying that his maps were fantasy? And if he were mapping to prevent ship wrecks, then he would hardly have indulged in fantasy.

 

[Old Rocks]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

On the down side, the coral reefs are a VERY important part of our ecostructure that we cannot afford to lose. If they died, it would set off a whole chain of undesirable effects. If they are dying off, we need to get to the bottom of the cause and fix it (scientists ARE studying the issue and we may or may not be able to correct it).

On the other hand, two years of data of uncertain integrity is not very much to go on. The maps could be grossly wrong (as a cartography hobbyist, I know many old maps were way wrong), or 100 years before that map was made, the reefs could have been smaller than today (just for example) and fluctuate through some natural variation.

Bottom line: it is something of concern that we need to focus a lot of attention on and if found to be caused mainly by us, we need to work hard to try to stop it. But if we found that we had to, say, give up electricity and go back to wood stoves to save the reef, guess which one would lose?

While reef habitats appear to be robust enough to withstand almost anything, they are extremely fragile. Not only are most corals brittle, but they usually need pristine, clear, warm, relatively nutrient-free waters to survive. Over the past 50 years, humans have put an enormous amount of pressure on coral reef environments by altering their waters and tearing up their foundations. From dynamite fishing to global warming, we are rapidly sending the world’s reefs into oblivion. The latest reports state that as much as 27 percent of monitored reef formations have been lost and as much as 32 percent are at risk of being lost within the next 32 years.

For marine biologists, the destruction of the reefs has proven to be as frustrating as it is heartbreaking. Because reef habitats are so complex, and because worldwide reef monitoring and mapping efforts only began a little over a decade ago, scientists simply do not have enough information to keep tabs on the destruction of the reefs, let alone come up with an effective solution. At the rate the reefs are disappearing, they may be beyond repair by the time a comprehensive plan to save reefs can be put into place.

Mapping the Decline of Coral Reefs : Feature Articles

Now just who the fuck said that we had to give up electricity in order to reduce GHG emissions? Or that we have to be able to pollute the oceans to the point of destroying sea life in order to maintain our way of life? There is enough power in the wind and sun in this nation to provide our electricity many, many times over.

 

[Old Rocks]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

Drill, Baby, Drill!
Why should anybody but goofy escapist misfits care about dead sea worms? We should pull the plug on the "Everything Is Connected" cult.

The plug should be pulled on useless assholes like you. As stated, coral reefs are the most productive life zone on earth. But a brainless cretin like you is ok with destroying that.

 

[sealybobo]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

. And this means what to science ?

Do Texas and Florida still deny global warming?

 

[toobfreak]

Look at all of the sea creatures killed by Gorebal Warming!
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Were they all before or after the edge of the world?

Look, Marge, to the right of the red sea serpent---- isn't that the Time Tunnel???

 

[flacaltenn]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

Sea dragons and all. NOBODY -- particularly ONE MAN -- had the time or equipment or ability to ACCURATELY map the Florida Keys in the 1700s. It's anecdotal. Interesting, but not documented. No methods, no actually DIVE information, no water temps, no GPS...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

Sea dragons and all. NOBODY -- particularly ONE MAN -- had the time or equipment or ability to ACCURATELY map the Florida Keys in the 1700s. It's anecdotal. Interesting, but not documented. No methods, no actually DIVE information, no water temps, no GPS...

"NOBODY -- particularly ONE MAN -- had the time or equipment or ability to ACCURATELY map the Florida Keys in the 1700s."

you have a bad habit of letting what you "kinda, sorta feel" is true get in the way of your rational judgment.

 

[flacaltenn]

Just some more news about our oceans dying.

240-year-old nautical maps show coral loss is much worse than we knew

Between 1773 and 1775, George Gauld, a surveyor with the British Admiralty, immortalized the coast of the Florida Keys in ink. Though his most pressing goal was to record the depth of the sea — to prevent future shipwrecks — Gauld embraced his naturalist side, too. He sprinkled his maps with miscellany that later charts would omit: where sea turtles made their nests, or the colors and consistency of sand.

Gauld also took note of the corals he saw. And in doing so he created the oldest known records of Florida reefs.

“With the early charts you can actually see the reef itself being drawn,” said Loren McClenachan, a marine ecologist at Colby College in Maine. “It matches almost exactly with the satellite data.” In a study published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, McClenachan and her colleagues compared those 240-year-old observations with present-day satellite images.

A stark picture of shrinking coral emerged: Half of the reefs recorded in the 1770s are missing from the satellite data. The coral nearest to shore fared the worst, with 88 percent of the coral that Gauld recorded now gone.

You do realize that a lot of the things you see on those old maps was fantasy? Right? The map makers of old were infamous for creating things out of whole cloth.

. Wonder what the map looked like when it was thought that the world was flat ? LOL.

These commemts about the accuracy of the map are out of desperation. Clearly the map is very accurate.

Sea dragons and all. NOBODY -- particularly ONE MAN -- had the time or equipment or ability to ACCURATELY map the Florida Keys in the 1700s. It's anecdotal. Interesting, but not documented. No methods, no actually DIVE information, no water temps, no GPS...

"NOBODY -- particularly ONE MAN -- had the time or equipment or ability to ACCURATELY map the Florida Keys in the 1700s."

you have a bad habit of letting what you "kinda, sorta feel" is true get in the way of your rational judgment.

Pretty sure I was very specific and rational about this. Instead of attacking me, feel free to take issue with anything I said that upset you Bunky..