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A message from a veteran about firearms in this country

I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle. During OSUT (a form of initial training where Basic and AIT are rolled into one course), we learned that our rifles were deadly weapons, designed solely for killing the enemy on a battlefield. When we trained with our weapons, we had to shoot a "qualification" test. We were presented with forty popup targets, one after another at different distances, from fifty to three hundred meters, all in very quick succession. We had to kill at least twenty three targets to pass the test, but most of us, including those of us who never fired a gun before, easily shot thirty or more targets. All this was in the span of less than two minutes, and we even had to reload once in that time. I don't get why any civilian needs to kill thirty people in two minutes, unless he is deliberately causing carnage and mass death.

The civilian AR15 is just a M-4 carbine by any other name. The only difference is that it does not have burst capacity. That is not nearly as big a difference as the NRA makes it out to be. We never, ever used burst mode in the military, since it wasted ammo, was inaccurate, and generally useless. Besides for that difference, the AR 15 is the exact same as the M4. The M4's features are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time, including a detachable magazine which allows for rapid reloading and a buffer tube and muzzle brake which dampens recoil, so that a shooter can fire off a large number of rounds with minimal affect on accuracy.

All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor? And your fantasies about shooting fifteen home invaders at once is just that: a fantasy which will likely never happen. The only real purpose of the AR 15 in American society is to kill large numbers of clubgoers, schoolchildren, or innocent bystanders at a time.

And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us. We have M1 Abrams tanks which can survive multiple rocket hits. We have drones which can bomb your house while being controlled by a person a thousand miles away. If worst came to worst, we have nuclear weapons which can quickly bring a seceding city or state into the stone age.

let's also talk about concealed carry. You are civilians. You are not deployed to a foreign country halfway around the globe. You are not fighting basically an entire for the sake of securing their oil supplies. You are not under constant threat of attack from people defending their homes from foreign invaders.

Therefore, you have no reason to carry a gun in public. Nobody needs to carry a handgun into mcDonald's or into a bank. You are not in a war zone.

And don;t give me the bs that concealed carry decreases crime. It has been proven, by STANFORD UNIVERSITY, that concealed carry actually INCREASES violent crime:

Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime, Stanford research shows

Trust me, I used to be an NRA member myself when i was 18. I bought into the propaganda because i was stupid, uninformed, and thought it was fun to play with guns. After joining the military, I learned to treat firearms, especially assault rifles, as tools of death and destruction, something which should be kept out of most civilian hands.

The right wing claims to respect veterans, so please listen to the words of a former soldier. I trained with assault rifles. I carried an assault rifle as part of my job. I can tell you that the military M-4 and the Ar-15 are nearly identical, and that no civilian needs a weapon designed to kill dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

With all due respect and appreciation for your military service I have to say that I am appalled at your ignorance and your willingness to shoot your mouth off so much about subjects about which you know so little. Who are you to decide what civilians or anybody else needs? Or to imply they shouldn't have what they don't need?

" All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor?"

Pure ignorance. Amilitary rifles and almost any rifle round will pierce body armor or kill a deer. Most hunting weapons are every bit as deadly as is the AR-15 and many more so depending on how they are employed..Actual assault rifles were chambered for cartridges substantially less powerful than those used in standard battle rifles.

"And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us".

Then you weren't looking and totally disregard history. Ever hear of the American revolution? The War of !812? The Texas rebellion? The Civil war? The Viet Cong? All the assorted muslim militias in the ME and elsewhere? The Reds in Russia? Civilian militias have been and continue to be important and often win for their cause. And why do you assume the military would side with tyranny?

You go to great length to claim that civilians don't need an effective weapon for defense. For the majority you are probably right but it is just as true that most people will never need an effective fire extinguisher; that in no way means that it is wise not to have one
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All the examples you listed either happened before nuclear bombs were invented, or where the U.S was not defending its own soil. If the U.S had to defend it's own territory against an inssurection, it would sure as hell use its sizeable nuclear arsenal






You're a retard. The US won't use nukes against a insurrection you moron. Progressives nitwits like you might indeed try and round up all of those you hate and then nuke them to save the grave digging costs, but the military would tell any politician who told them to nuke this country to go fuck themselves.

You know that the last time the South tried to rebel, entire cities such as Atlanta and Savannah were burned to the ground, right? William Sherman, if he had a nuclear weapon, would have easily used it on Atlanta instead of wasting lives and time fighting for the city and then burning it to oblivion anyways
 
Gotcha. In the Bill of Rights which the Founding Fathers wanted to send a clear message to government that they do not have unlimited powers, they decided to dedicate one amendment to grant power ... to ... government.

So why do you suppose the Founding Fathers were afraid government would take away it's own guns? Why were they worried about it if they did? You know Adams disbanded the military saying if he didn't than he'd need an army to disband the army.

Yet he then said OMG, we forgot to put in the Constitution that government can have guns? Seriously? We better put it in the Bill of Rights then. Damn it, government, you will NOT take away your right to have guns!
Being Necessary for the Security of Untaxed Wealth

Follow the money. The unpatriotic Chickenhawk 18th Century plutocracy was too cheap to pay and arm a standing army.

You should actually study history and John Adams.
An Anti-Democratic Manifesto Written Behind Closed Doors by Lawyers for the 1%

You quote the Founding Fodder as if their self-serving opinions were inspired by some infallible Supreme Being. We don't need to make politics a religion serving as a totalitarian theocracy. Second, treating the Constitution as a Bible is either a superstition or heresy.





Good luck in whatever country you move to.
What Really Put the Crack in the Liberty Bell

The fact that we don't just ask whether a proposed bill is good for the country and that's all we have to decide, but first we have to ask whether it is Constitutional proves that being obstructed by a Constitution is not good for the country.




You may be in danger of OD-ing on bliss. Stay in school, kid.
 
It was for a prior existing medical issue that i didn't disclose at MEPS, but was discovered during my enlistment
Discovered at bootcamp? You lying fuck, you washed out at bootcamp and come here pretending to be a veteran that knows the firearm world?

Yeah, you'd make a great spineless civil rights lyer going after cops that put themselves in harm's way. Or helping illegals vote Democrat and help the nation get stoned. No wonder you are so fucked up, you're a stoner that can't see what his thoughts look like to a lucid mind.
I am a veteran by any standard. I served continuously on active duty for over 180 days, during a time of war no less.

I trained enough with assault rifles, and learned enough about how they function, to know that no civilian needs one
6 months and you have the nerve to call yourself a veteran? And after lying to get in? You have some nerve. And you had lots of training on rifles by then? That's some weak shit.

You should know damn good and well why a civilian would want one but the point is it isn't your call.






It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
 
I am a veteran of the United States Army. I served as a 12B (Combat Engineer) in the 37th Engineer Battalion, part of the illustrious 82nd Airborne Division

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why any civilian needs or wants to own an assault rifle. During OSUT (a form of initial training where Basic and AIT are rolled into one course), we learned that our rifles were deadly weapons, designed solely for killing the enemy on a battlefield. When we trained with our weapons, we had to shoot a "qualification" test. We were presented with forty popup targets, one after another at different distances, from fifty to three hundred meters, all in very quick succession. We had to kill at least twenty three targets to pass the test, but most of us, including those of us who never fired a gun before, easily shot thirty or more targets. All this was in the span of less than two minutes, and we even had to reload once in that time. I don't get why any civilian needs to kill thirty people in two minutes, unless he is deliberately causing carnage and mass death.

The civilian AR15 is just a M-4 carbine by any other name. The only difference is that it does not have burst capacity. That is not nearly as big a difference as the NRA makes it out to be. We never, ever used burst mode in the military, since it wasted ammo, was inaccurate, and generally useless. Besides for that difference, the AR 15 is the exact same as the M4. The M4's features are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time, including a detachable magazine which allows for rapid reloading and a buffer tube and muzzle brake which dampens recoil, so that a shooter can fire off a large number of rounds with minimal affect on accuracy.

All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor? And your fantasies about shooting fifteen home invaders at once is just that: a fantasy which will likely never happen. The only real purpose of the AR 15 in American society is to kill large numbers of clubgoers, schoolchildren, or innocent bystanders at a time.

And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us. We have M1 Abrams tanks which can survive multiple rocket hits. We have drones which can bomb your house while being controlled by a person a thousand miles away. If worst came to worst, we have nuclear weapons which can quickly bring a seceding city or state into the stone age.

let's also talk about concealed carry. You are civilians. You are not deployed to a foreign country halfway around the globe. You are not fighting basically an entire for the sake of securing their oil supplies. You are not under constant threat of attack from people defending their homes from foreign invaders.

Therefore, you have no reason to carry a gun in public. Nobody needs to carry a handgun into mcDonald's or into a bank. You are not in a war zone.

And don;t give me the bs that concealed carry decreases crime. It has been proven, by STANFORD UNIVERSITY, that concealed carry actually INCREASES violent crime:

Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime, Stanford research shows

Trust me, I used to be an NRA member myself when i was 18. I bought into the propaganda because i was stupid, uninformed, and thought it was fun to play with guns. After joining the military, I learned to treat firearms, especially assault rifles, as tools of death and destruction, something which should be kept out of most civilian hands.

The right wing claims to respect veterans, so please listen to the words of a former soldier. I trained with assault rifles. I carried an assault rifle as part of my job. I can tell you that the military M-4 and the Ar-15 are nearly identical, and that no civilian needs a weapon designed to kill dozens of people in a matter of minutes.

With all due respect and appreciation for your military service I have to say that I am appalled at your ignorance and your willingness to shoot your mouth off so much about subjects about which you know so little. Who are you to decide what civilians or anybody else needs? Or to imply they shouldn't have what they don't need?

" All the arguments about " I need my AR 15 for hunting" or "I need my Ar15 for self defense" are entirely ridiculous. The 5.56 Nato round, which the Ar15 uses, is designed to pierce body armor. Which deer wears body armor?"

Pure ignorance. Amilitary rifles and almost any rifle round will pierce body armor or kill a deer. Most hunting weapons are every bit as deadly as is the AR-15 and many more so depending on how they are employed..Actual assault rifles were chambered for cartridges substantially less powerful than those used in standard battle rifles.

"And for those of you who claim that "my Ar15 will protect me from tyranny," guess what, you're wrong. In my time in the military, I saw that no civilian rebellion would ever stand a chance against us".

Then you weren't looking and totally disregard history. Ever hear of the American revolution? The War of !812? The Texas rebellion? The Civil war? The Viet Cong? All the assorted muslim militias in the ME and elsewhere? The Reds in Russia? Civilian militias have been and continue to be important and often win for their cause. And why do you assume the military would side with tyranny?

You go to great length to claim that civilians don't need an effective weapon for defense. For the majority you are probably right but it is just as true that most people will never need an effective fire extinguisher; that in no way means that it is wise not to have one
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All the examples you listed either happened before nuclear bombs were invented, or where the U.S was not defending its own soil. If the U.S had to defend it's own territory against an inssurection, it would sure as hell use its sizeable nuclear arsenal






You're a retard. The US won't use nukes against a insurrection you moron. Progressives nitwits like you might indeed try and round up all of those you hate and then nuke them to save the grave digging costs, but the military would tell any politician who told them to nuke this country to go fuck themselves.

You know that the last time the South tried to rebel, entire cities such as Atlanta and Savannah were burned to the ground, right? William Sherman, if he had a nuclear weapon, would have easily used it on Atlanta instead of wasting lives and time fighting for the city and then burning it to oblivion anyways

Please tell me you aren't that stupid? You do know that nuclear radiation is different than fire damage?
 
Racist and nonsensical
Why are you calling Edward Cage racist and nonsensical? Just because you're a socialist and hate all conservatives and capitalists?


A fucking Uncle Tom sellout who would be happy to return to slavery if he had the choice. He is a shame to all people of color.
You are a sick twisted soul. No wonder your opinions are so thoughtless.

A person of color speaking in favor of policies which benefit only rich white men is by any standards a traitor to his own community
He probably thinks of himself as a person, not a community. And doesn't agree with your childish worldview about what's good for the economy.

Regardless of the right wing focus on "individualism," individuals do not exist in a vacuum. They are made and forged by the shared experiences of the group that they belong to and were raised in, and bear the collective triumphs, and sins, and pains of the generations who came before them. In the same way that the guilt of slavery did not go away when the last slave owner died, but continues in the form of white privelege and toxic masculinity, the pains of slavery are born by people of color to this day. To deny that pain, to claim it doesn't exist, to fight against your own history, is the sign of a sell out and a traitor.
 
Discovered at bootcamp? You lying fuck, you washed out at bootcamp and come here pretending to be a veteran that knows the firearm world?

Yeah, you'd make a great spineless civil rights lyer going after cops that put themselves in harm's way. Or helping illegals vote Democrat and help the nation get stoned. No wonder you are so fucked up, you're a stoner that can't see what his thoughts look like to a lucid mind.
I am a veteran by any standard. I served continuously on active duty for over 180 days, during a time of war no less.

I trained enough with assault rifles, and learned enough about how they function, to know that no civilian needs one
6 months and you have the nerve to call yourself a veteran? And after lying to get in? You have some nerve. And you had lots of training on rifles by then? That's some weak shit.

You should know damn good and well why a civilian would want one but the point is it isn't your call.






It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?

usually given out for awols
 
Discovered at bootcamp? You lying fuck, you washed out at bootcamp and come here pretending to be a veteran that knows the firearm world?

Yeah, you'd make a great spineless civil rights lyer going after cops that put themselves in harm's way. Or helping illegals vote Democrat and help the nation get stoned. No wonder you are so fucked up, you're a stoner that can't see what his thoughts look like to a lucid mind.
I am a veteran by any standard. I served continuously on active duty for over 180 days, during a time of war no less.

I trained enough with assault rifles, and learned enough about how they function, to know that no civilian needs one
6 months and you have the nerve to call yourself a veteran? And after lying to get in? You have some nerve. And you had lots of training on rifles by then? That's some weak shit.

You should know damn good and well why a civilian would want one but the point is it isn't your call.






It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
No, for a physical condition I didn't disclose at MEPS
 
I am a veteran by any standard. I served continuously on active duty for over 180 days, during a time of war no less.

I trained enough with assault rifles, and learned enough about how they function, to know that no civilian needs one
6 months and you have the nerve to call yourself a veteran? And after lying to get in? You have some nerve. And you had lots of training on rifles by then? That's some weak shit.

You should know damn good and well why a civilian would want one but the point is it isn't your call.






It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
No, for a physical condition I didn't disclose at MEPS

Fraudulent enlistment. So question is, did your recruiter know and tell you not to say anything? Once you got busted did you turn your recruiter in?
 
I am a veteran by any standard. I served continuously on active duty for over 180 days, during a time of war no less.

I trained enough with assault rifles, and learned enough about how they function, to know that no civilian needs one
6 months and you have the nerve to call yourself a veteran? And after lying to get in? You have some nerve. And you had lots of training on rifles by then? That's some weak shit.

You should know damn good and well why a civilian would want one but the point is it isn't your call.






It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
No, for a physical condition I didn't disclose at MEPS







There was no box for you to check off for "crazy-ass, ignorant, stupid POS"?
 
6 months and you have the nerve to call yourself a veteran? And after lying to get in? You have some nerve. And you had lots of training on rifles by then? That's some weak shit.

You should know damn good and well why a civilian would want one but the point is it isn't your call.






It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
No, for a physical condition I didn't disclose at MEPS

Fraudulent enlistment. So question is, did your recruiter know and tell you not to say anything? Once you got busted did you turn your recruiter in?
I downplayed my condition to my recruiter, and he encouraged me to not list something which I told him was a minor infection on my MEPS paperwork. No, I didn't rat my recruiter out. I owned up to lying, and didn't try to throw anybody under the bus
 
Why are you calling Edward Cage racist and nonsensical? Just because you're a socialist and hate all conservatives and capitalists?


A fucking Uncle Tom sellout who would be happy to return to slavery if he had the choice. He is a shame to all people of color.
You are a sick twisted soul. No wonder your opinions are so thoughtless.

A person of color speaking in favor of policies which benefit only rich white men is by any standards a traitor to his own community
He probably thinks of himself as a person, not a community. And doesn't agree with your childish worldview about what's good for the economy.

Regardless of the right wing focus on "individualism," individuals do not exist in a vacuum. They are made and forged by the shared experiences of the group that they belong to and were raised in, and bear the collective triumphs, and sins, and pains of the generations who came before them. In the same way that the guilt of slavery did not go away when the last slave owner died, but continues in the form of white privelege and toxic masculinity, the pains of slavery are born by people of color to this day. To deny that pain, to claim it doesn't exist, to fight against your own history, is the sign of a sell out and a traitor.


Please spare us all the BLM whining and bullshit. You are just trying desperately to project your own faults on someone else. Man up.
 
A fucking Uncle Tom sellout who would be happy to return to slavery if he had the choice. He is a shame to all people of color.
You are a sick twisted soul. No wonder your opinions are so thoughtless.
A person of color speaking in favor of policies which benefit only rich white men is by any standards a traitor to his own community
He probably thinks of himself as a person, not a community. And doesn't agree with your childish worldview about what's good for the economy.
Regardless of the right wing focus on "individualism," individuals do not exist in a vacuum. They are made and forged by the shared experiences of the group that they belong to and were raised in, and bear the collective triumphs, and sins, and pains of the generations who came before them. In the same way that the guilt of slavery did not go away when the last slave owner died, but continues in the form of white privelege and toxic masculinity, the pains of slavery are born by people of color to this day. To deny that pain, to claim it doesn't exist, to fight against your own history, is the sign of a sell out and a traitor.

Please spare us all the BLM whining and bullshit. You are just trying desperately to project your own faults on someone else. Man up.
Yeah, trying to fight racism is "projecting my faults on somebody else."

Fucking retard.
 
It took the Army that long to figure out he was batshit crazy and discharge him as an undesirable. My guess is he got a "Entry Level Separation", if not a "Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge". His level of discourse is so ridiculous that no one would want to work with this nitwit.
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
No, for a physical condition I didn't disclose at MEPS

Fraudulent enlistment. So question is, did your recruiter know and tell you not to say anything? Once you got busted did you turn your recruiter in?
I downplayed my condition to my recruiter, and he encouraged me to not list something which I told him was a minor infection on my MEPS paperwork. No, I didn't rat my recruiter out. I owned up to lying, and didn't try to throw anybody under the bus

Your communist fist pump would have covered it. So you lied about that too?
 
General Under Honorable Conditions. Which means I am still able to receive service at VA hospitals

So you got kicked out of the military because you didn't tell them you are anti-government?
No, for a physical condition I didn't disclose at MEPS

Fraudulent enlistment. So question is, did your recruiter know and tell you not to say anything? Once you got busted did you turn your recruiter in?
I downplayed my condition to my recruiter, and he encouraged me to not list something which I told him was a minor infection on my MEPS paperwork. No, I didn't rat my recruiter out. I owned up to lying, and didn't try to throw anybody under the bus

Your communist fist pump would have covered it. ......


That's a picture of his boyfriend moments before insertion.
 
You are a sick twisted soul. No wonder your opinions are so thoughtless.
A person of color speaking in favor of policies which benefit only rich white men is by any standards a traitor to his own community
He probably thinks of himself as a person, not a community. And doesn't agree with your childish worldview about what's good for the economy.
Regardless of the right wing focus on "individualism," individuals do not exist in a vacuum. They are made and forged by the shared experiences of the group that they belong to and were raised in, and bear the collective triumphs, and sins, and pains of the generations who came before them. In the same way that the guilt of slavery did not go away when the last slave owner died, but continues in the form of white privelege and toxic masculinity, the pains of slavery are born by people of color to this day. To deny that pain, to claim it doesn't exist, to fight against your own history, is the sign of a sell out and a traitor.

Please spare us all the BLM whining and bullshit. You are just trying desperately to project your own faults on someone else. Man up.
Yeah, trying to fight racism is "projecting my faults on somebody else."

Fucking retard.

Inventing racism where none exists is indeed your fault. Trying to find a reason to play the victim is your fault. Again, man up.

Fucking crybaby
 
The fact that we don't just ask whether a proposed bill is good for the country and that's all we have to decide, but first we have to ask whether it is Constitutional proves that being obstructed by a Constitution is not good for the country

Actually it is excellent proof of just the opposite. It helps stop legislation that only benefits a particular agenda rather than the Country as a whole. Don't like what the Constitution says? People can change it if enough agree. Be advised that there are many Americans sworn to defend the Constitution.
A Scrap of 18th Century Government Paper Doesn't Give You Your Gun Rights

What a slave you are to whatever the Establishment tells you to believe. The Constitution was set up to promote the particular agenda of the ruling class. In a free, self-determining country, it would have been a temporary start-up document, to be superseded by all subsequent legislation.

Many doctors take the Hippocratic Oath; does that mean they believe in the Greek god of healing? Swearing to defend the Constitution is just a metaphor for defending our country. Notice that the spawn of the ruling class hardly ever have to defend our country, but the Chickenhawks are the loudest at defending their totalitarian Constitution. Nobody bullies a free man, and the Constitution is just for plutocratic bullies and their sissy buttboys.
 
Being Necessary for the Security of Untaxed Wealth

Follow the money. The unpatriotic Chickenhawk 18th Century plutocracy was too cheap to pay and arm a standing army.

You should actually study history and John Adams.
An Anti-Democratic Manifesto Written Behind Closed Doors by Lawyers for the 1%

You quote the Founding Fodder as if their self-serving opinions were inspired by some infallible Supreme Being. We don't need to make politics a religion serving as a totalitarian theocracy. Second, treating the Constitution as a Bible is either a superstition or heresy.





Good luck in whatever country you move to.
What Really Put the Crack in the Liberty Bell

The fact that we don't just ask whether a proposed bill is good for the country and that's all we have to decide, but first we have to ask whether it is Constitutional proves that being obstructed by a Constitution is not good for the country.
I agree that it is flat out retarded that rich white men 200 years ago can affect what laws we have today
Constitutionalists Get a Sense of Power Over the Majority. Being Boytoys of the Rich Makes Them Feel Smart and Superior.

Jefferson, who had been disinvited from the Constitutional Convention, felt that even one generation shouldn't have been mandated to submit to laws that fit their fathers only. He wanted a new Convention every twenty-five years. But even the most democratically inclined Presidents have to compromise with the private-sector powers who really rule the government. That guillotine fodder need a totalitarian Constitution to take power away from the vast majority.
 
Why are you calling Edward Cage racist and nonsensical? Just because you're a socialist and hate all conservatives and capitalists?


A fucking Uncle Tom sellout who would be happy to return to slavery if he had the choice. He is a shame to all people of color.
You are a sick twisted soul. No wonder your opinions are so thoughtless.

A person of color speaking in favor of policies which benefit only rich white men is by any standards a traitor to his own community
He probably thinks of himself as a person, not a community. And doesn't agree with your childish worldview about what's good for the economy.

Regardless of the right wing focus on "individualism," individuals do not exist in a vacuum. They are made and forged by the shared experiences of the group that they belong to and were raised in, and bear the collective triumphs, and sins, and pains of the generations who came before them. In the same way that the guilt of slavery did not go away when the last slave owner died, but continues in the form of white privelege and toxic masculinity, the pains of slavery are born by people of color to this day. To deny that pain, to claim it doesn't exist, to fight against your own history, is the sign of a sell out and a traitor.

Preppies' Pet Pit Bulls

That is a snob view of White people held by the brats of the rich you've fooled yourself into thinking you are against. Working-class men despise minorities and make no excuses for them. A true anti-plutocrat would share those views instead of the doctrines emanating from the university, which is an obsolete aristocratic think tank.
 
You should actually study history and John Adams.
An Anti-Democratic Manifesto Written Behind Closed Doors by Lawyers for the 1%

You quote the Founding Fodder as if their self-serving opinions were inspired by some infallible Supreme Being. We don't need to make politics a religion serving as a totalitarian theocracy. Second, treating the Constitution as a Bible is either a superstition or heresy.





Good luck in whatever country you move to.
What Really Put the Crack in the Liberty Bell

The fact that we don't just ask whether a proposed bill is good for the country and that's all we have to decide, but first we have to ask whether it is Constitutional proves that being obstructed by a Constitution is not good for the country.
I agree that it is flat out retarded that rich white men 200 years ago can affect what laws we have today
Constitutionalists Get a Sense of Power Over the Majority. Being Boytoys of the Rich Makes Them Feel Smart and Superior.

Jefferson, who had been disinvited from the Constitutional Convention, felt that even one generation shouldn't have been mandated to submit to laws that fit their fathers only. He wanted a new Convention every twenty-five years. But even the most democratically inclined Presidents have to compromise with the private-sector powers who really rule the government. That guillotine fodder need a totalitarian Constitution to take power away from the vast majority.

I always find it humorous when leftists are right but you don't believe you are right. If you actually believed that "private-sector powers" actually "rule the government," then the last thing you'd be demanding is more government. You'd demand less. So you're lying, you don't believe what you are saying.

The irony is it's true, they do. Start listening to your own rhetoric there, dawg, you're onto something. Now you just need a serious response. Reduce their power by reducing government
 

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