America is not a nation of immigrants and that's something people forget.

[toobfreak]

The term 'migrant' refers to their action as in moving from one place to another. Since there was no country during the Chief's time, those people will become 'settlers' in a free land. Indians owned squat.

True but keep in mind that there were many Indian nations, but to the Indian philosophy, they did not "own" the land, land was not property, there were no treaties or contracts or surveyors, that is a western idea. To the Indian culture, the land was owned by the spirit of the sky, the mountains, the air, rain and land. These were the true owners of the land, and the Indian like the buffalo were simply grateful residents, a part of the land giving thanks for their bounty.

 

[Lastamender]

American is a nation of Americans. They can be any from any country they want but they must love this country. That is paraphrasing Teddy Roosevelt. The original "love it or leave it" guy.

 

[toobfreak]

Exactly. We hear Democrats talk about immigrants bringing their 'culture' which is another word for invading. We have an AMERICAN culture that includes different ethnic groups that are NOT considered cultures.

You don't take a job working in an Italian restaurant then decide you are bringing your own German recipes. America is not simply a parking lot flea market where you move in and take a space and do your own thing, you come here because you want to join with and add to the American culture, you want to be an AMERICAN, and while that can be any person from anywhere, it is a lie to say that also involves /changing/ the culture already here.

I knew lots of immigrants from the Old Country, and while they had traditions and language from where they were from, they adopted and adapted to fitting into America and kept the rest mostly to themselves--- people moving here now are trying to /change/ America to fit to them.

The Great Lie of the Left is that America has no language of its own, no culture of its own, no borders of its own. Non-Americans who democrats support believe and want this. Americans who are traditionalists want to preserve ourselves for what we were intended to be and those are your Trump supporters.

Just remember that Obumma said he stood for hope and CHANGE.

 

[Leo123]

True but keep in mind that there were many Indian nations, but to the Indian philosophy, they did not "own" the land, land was not property, there were no treaties or contracts or surveyors, that is a western idea. To the Indian culture, the land was owned by the spirit of the sky, the mountains, the air, rain and land. These were the true owners of the land, and the Indian like the buffalo were simply grateful residents, a part of the land giving thanks for their bounty.

Remember though, Indians warred with each other. Mainly blood feuds but, the Pueblo tribes fought for control of arable land. This is why they built Pueblos as fortifications.

 

[Leo123]

You don't take a job working in an Italian restaurant then decide you are bringing your own German recipes. America is not simply a parking lot flea market where you move in and take a space and do your own thing, you come here because you want to join with and add to the American culture, you want to be an AMERICAN, and while that can be any person from anywhere, it is a lie to say that also involves /changing/ the culture already here.

I knew lots of immigrants from the Old Country, and while they had traditions and language from where they were from, they adopted and adapted to fitting into America and kept the rest mostly to themselves--- people moving here now are trying to /change/ America to fit to them.

The Great Lie of the Left is that America has no language of its own, no culture of its own, no borders of its own. Non-Americans who democrats support believe and want this. Americans who are traditionalists want to preserve ourselves for what we were intended to be and those are your Trump supporters.

Just remember that Obumma said he stood for hope and CHANGE.

Yeah, the Marxist chant 'change' or.....'build back better.' Remember, in order to 'build back;' that which exists needs to be destroyed. That's what these Marxies do.

 

[JGalt]

We were a country of people who came here from Europe. Immigration ain't the same as it used to be.

Immigrants never entered someone's land or property without permission.

Now we've become a nation of trespassers.

 

[toobfreak]

Remember though, Indians warred with each other. Mainly blood feuds but, the Pueblo tribes fought for control of arable land. This is why they built Pueblos as fortifications.

Sure, Indians fought each other for CONTROL of territory for their own survival, but still, the true OWNERS of the land belonged to the Sun, the Moon, the spirit of the sky, the wind, rain, etc. After all, these gave LIFE.

 

[toobfreak]

Yeah, the Marxist chant 'change' or.....'build back better.'

What happened to Build Back Better? If Biden/Harris ran on that, how can they still be campaigning on fixing so much of it? I mean, democrats have run the country 12 of the last 16 years, so who are they building back better from?

 

[JGalt]

Yeah, the Marxist chant 'change' or.....'build back better.' Remember, in order to 'build back;' that which exists needs to be destroyed. That's what these Marxies do.

 

[toobfreak]

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The scary thing about Harris is her false humility. You can see it in her face when it flushes with intolerance for having to act patient, understanding or caring. There is nothing people like her want more than POWER, and in office the first thing she would do is grab all the power she can, impose all the CONTROL she can, by restricting all of the FREEDOM she can.

What did Walz do? He imposed curfews under threat of force using roving gangs of swat teams to shoot anyone they saw outside on their own property with a paintball, arrest them if they had to. And Harris is a VP! Hopefully soon to be PRESIDENT. To a democrat, this means emperor.

Just remember what both Obumma and Biden did: they both continuously exceeded their authority and had to be repeatedly slapped down by the SC. Obama was censured like 12 times. And what did Biden do when the SC told him he didn't have the power to just forgive school loans? He gave the SC the finger and told them to fuck off.

Then he went on to say we need to reign in the SC and put under the control of his branch and congress, so that the SC only made "acceptable" decisions.

Those are the words of a tyrant.

 

[Leo123]

Sure, Indians fought each other for CONTROL of territory for their own survival, but still, the true OWNERS of the land belonged to the Sun, the Moon, the spirit of the sky, the wind, rain, etc. After all, these gave LIFE.

OK the settlers wanted control too and I think most of them did not think God was not the purveyor of everything including the Earth, moon, sun and stars. The Indians may not have officially believed in ownership of land but they sure fought for it.

 

[toobfreak]

OK the settlers wanted control too and I think most of them did not think God was not the purveyor of everything including the Earth, moon, sun and stars. The Indians may not have officially believed in ownership of land but they sure fought for it.

What I'm saying is that they did not think of their land as PROPERTY as we do. They did not sell land, draw up contracts. Space was fought over, but the land itself was essentially GOD.

 

[Leo123]

What I'm saying is that they did not think of their land as PROPERTY as we do. They did not sell land, draw up contracts. Space was fought over, but the land itself was essentially GOD.

It's Real Property legally in America. It's a commodity that, while can be bought and sold, can never really be owned by anyone other than the governing entity. We own a 'bundle of rights' not the land itself. We are somewhat like the Indians in that respect as we really don't own the land, we just use it to survive. Go through an earthquake, wild fire, hurricane, tornado and you'll soon realize you have no ownership of the Earth anyway.

 

[IM2]

As charlie very insightfully pointed out, the idea America is a nation of immigrants is incorrect. Were a nation of settlers and there is a huge difference between the two.

And that's why we're failing now because immigrants coming here do not integrate or conform to our society like past immigrants do. Now they want America to conform to them and it's dissolving everything that makes America America.

Charie Kirk is a dumb ass who could not graduate from a Juco. The people who came here from Europe are not only immigrants but they would be considered illegal immigrants today. Those immigrants did not conform to the societies that already exusted here. What made "America" needs to be dissoved and redone.

 

[IM2]

What I'm saying is that they did not think of their land as PROPERTY as we do. They did not sell land, draw up contracts. Space was fought over, but the land itself was essentially GOD.

Bullshit.

 

[Winco]

And that's why we're failing now because immigrants coming here do not integrate or conform to our society like past immigrants do.

And this Kirk BS is a LIE.
Kirk is a con man.

If Kirk is correct, why does the US still have districts called Little Italy, Chinatown, etc.......

Why have these Communities NOT conformed to the USA White Man?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

We also used to have holds on immigration
We've taken in more than enough people from south and central America
And the left has turned off the assimilation machine ...


Ya can't say that so...somehow it's wayciss
Cause tv said so