Another Fifth Column Judge, Fernandez Rodriguez, subverts the legislative intent of the Alien Enemies Act

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Judge Rodriguez, in support of his ORDER permanently blocking the Trump Administration from detaining, transferring or removing Venezuelans targeted for deportation under the Alien Enemies Act (AEA), discards and dismisses one of the most fundamental age old rules requiring an adherence to “legislative intent”, and he goes on to attach his personal views to the Act to support his order.

Judge Rodriguez writes: “The historical context for the enactment of a statute can prove relevant, but does not dictate the statutory words’ meaning. See, e.g., Airlines for Am. v. Dep’t of Transportation, 110 F.4th 672, 676 (5th Cir. 2024) (confirming that “legislative history is not the law,” and it cannot “muddy clear statutory language”) . . . “

And yet, in Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), our Supreme Court emphatically states:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380" :

“A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law.”


Those who have actually taken the time and studied the 1798 CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES: ALIEN ENEMIES which created An act respecting Alien Enemies will find its very purpose and legislative intent, when the United States and her citizens were under threat which involved “aliens”, was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to classify, apprehend, restrain, secure and remove, aliens deemed, as stated in the President’s Proclamation, who pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

Judge, Fernandez Rodriguez, in his written order, has not only ignored and subverted a fundamental rule of statutory construction requiring an adherence to legislative intent, but has done so to prevent the deportation of millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals who have entered the United States illegally, and are now inflicting devastating pain and suffering upon American Citizens and their children, which includes murder, rape, theft, assault, not to mention overburdening our emergency care rooms, public schools and public housing, all of which are meant for American citizens and their children, and not the illegal entrant aliens who Judge Rodriguez is protecting with his subversive and tyrannical order.

JWK

Our courts, federal and state, are infested with FIFTH COLUMN activist judges (Judge Charlotte Sweeney, Judge Landya McCafferty, Judge Shelley Joseph, Judge Indira Talwani, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, Judge Hannah Dugan, Judge Fernandez Rodriguez, Judge James Boasberg, Judge Randolph Moss, Judge William Alsup, Judge Loren AliKhan,. . and many others), who are intent on undermining the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
 
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Judge Rodriguez, in support of his ORDER permanently blocking the Trump Administration from detaining, transferring or removing Venezuelans targeted for deportation under the Alien Enemies Act (AEA), discards and dismisses one of the most fundamental age old rules requiring an adherence to “legislative intent”, and he goes on to attach his personal views to the Act to support his order.

Judge Rodriguez writes: “The historical context for the enactment of a statute can prove relevant, but does not dictate the statutory words’ meaning. See, e.g., Airlines for Am. v. Dep’t of Transportation, 110 F.4th 672, 676 (5th Cir. 2024) (confirming that “legislative history is not the law,” and it cannot “muddy clear statutory language”) . . . “

And yet, in Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), our Supreme Court emphatically states:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380" :

“A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law.”


Those who have actually taken the time and studied the 1798 CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES: ALIEN ENEMIES which created An act respecting Alien Enemies will find its very purpose and legislative intent, when the United States and her citizens were under threat which involved “aliens”, was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to classify, apprehend, restrain, secure and remove, aliens deemed, as stated in the President’s Proclamation, who pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

Judge, Fernandez Rodriguez, in his written order, has not only ignored and subverted a fundamental rule of statutory construction requiring an adherence to legislative intent, but has done so to prevent the deportation of millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals who have entered the United States illegally, and are now inflicting devastating pain and suffering upon American Citizens and their children, which includes murder, rape, theft, assault, not to mention overburdening our emergency care rooms, public schools and public housing, all of which are meant for American citizens and their children, and not the illegal entrant aliens who Judge Rodriguez is protecting with his subversive and tyrannical order.

JWK

Our courts, federal and state, are infested with FIFTH COLUMN activist judges (Judge Charlotte Sweeney, Judge Landya McCafferty, Judge Shelley Joseph, Judge Indira Talwani, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, Judge Hannah Dugan, Judge Fernandez Rodriguez, Judge James Boasberg, Judge Randolph Moss, Judge William Alsup, Judge Loren AliKhan,. . and many others), who are intent on undermining the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
How do you figure? Is there a declared war (as precipitated the Alien Enemies Act, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a wartime authority that allows the president to detain or deport the natives and citizens of an enemy nation) of which, I am unaware? If there is a declared war, let's see the declaration of war by the two houses of congress, the countries we declare war on named, and let the bombing and bombardment to defeat them begin. Otherwise, this is just a misuse of the act, by a despot president attempting to circumvent the laws of the land.
 
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This ruling should only be applicable in the judge's district, and even then only until overturned by a higher court.
 
How do you figure? Is there a declared war (as precipitated the Alien Enemies Act, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a wartime authority that allows the president to detain or deport the natives and citizens of an enemy nation) of which, I am unaware? If there is a declared war, let's see the declaration of war by the two houses of congress, the countries we declare war on named, and let the bombing and bombardment to defeat them begin. Otherwise, this is just a misuse of the act, by a despot president attempting to circumvent the laws of the land.
Perhaps you should read the statute before opining. It doesn't require a declared war.
 
How do you figure? Is there a declared war (as precipitated the Alien Enemies Act, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a wartime authority that allows the president to detain or deport the natives and citizens of an enemy nation) of which, I am unaware? If there is a declared war, let's see the declaration of war by the two houses of congress, the countries we declare war on named, and let the bombing and bombardment to defeat them begin. Otherwise, this is just a misuse of the act, by a despot president attempting to circumvent the laws of the land.
hahaha…Are you asking for martial law instead?
 
The judge was right. And if this were a Democrat in office, you guys would agree with the judge's decision.
 
How do you figure? Is there a declared war (as precipitated the Alien Enemies Act, the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, a wartime authority that allows the president to detain or deport the natives and citizens of an enemy nation) of which, I am unaware? If there is a declared war, let's see the declaration of war by the two houses of congress, the countries we declare war on named, and let the bombing and bombardment to defeat them begin. Otherwise, this is just a misuse of the act, by a despot president attempting to circumvent the laws of the land.

:rolleyes:



Those who have actually taken the time and studied the 1798 CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES: ALIEN ENEMIES which created An act respecting Alien Enemies will find its very purpose and legislative intent, when the United States and her citizens were under threat which involved “aliens”, was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to classify, apprehend, restrain, secure and remove, aliens deemed, as stated in the President’s Proclamation, who pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
 
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Those who have actually taken the time and studied the 1798 CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES: ALIEN ENEMIES which created An act respecting Alien Enemies will find its very purpose and legislative intent, when the United States and her citizens were under threat which involved “aliens”, was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to classify, apprehend, restrain, secure and remove, aliens deemed, as stated in the President’s Proclamation, who pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
The U.S. is not under any such threat.
 
Perhaps you should read the statute before opining. It doesn't require a declared war.
I judge that, to be it's intent. We will let the courts decide.
 
hahaha…Are you asking for martial law instead?
Nope. Just not planning to let it slowly be put in place with the frog-in-the-pot, slow heat slow boil implementation. This use of the act is not what prompted it's creation, nor it's intent. I'll take due process, thank you very much.
 
Perhaps you should read the statute before opining. It doesn't require a declared war.
The poster has an agenda in harmony with those intent on destroying the United States from within.

You are absolutely correct . . . the Act doesn't require a "declared war".

What we do know is, during the time period (1798) when Congress enacted The Alien Enemies Act, Congress had an unambiguous intention to protect the United States from disaffected or seditious persons residing within the United States, e.g. on May 16th,1798 we find the following:

ALIENS.

Mr. Sewall said, the Committee for the Protection of Commerce and Defence of the Country, to whom it was referred to inquire into what measures would be proper to be taken respecting aliens, were of opinion their instructions did not go to a sufficient extent, and directed him to propose to the House the following resolution for adoption:

“ Resolved, That the committee on that part of the President’s Speech which relates to commerce and the defence of the country, be authorized to consider the danger which may result by means of aliens and other disaffected or seditious persons residing within the United States, and what measures ought to be taken for securing, removing, or otherwise restricting such persons, and to report by bill or otherwise.” SOURCE

And later, on May, 22nd, Congressional Record, House of Representatives, page 1791, we find:

“Mr. O. believed, therefore, that it would be best to vest a discretionally power in the Executive to secure and take care that these men should do no injury. And this could not be looked upon as a dangerous or exorbitant power, since the President would have the power, the moment war was declared, to apprehend the whole of these people as enemies, and make them prisoners of war. And in case of a predatory incursion, made on this country, there might be as much reason for securing some of them as in case of actual war or invasion.”___ LINK

As it turns out, all the crap about an actual war being required is made up crap, unsupported by the legislative intent of the AEA.

Judge Rodriguez has taken the liberty to attach his personal views of fairness, reasonableness, and justice to the Alien Enemies Act in order to subvert the very intentions of the Act.

JWK

The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968
 
Nope. Just not planning to let it slowly be put in place with the frog-in-the-pot, slow heat slow boil implementation. This use of the act is not what prompted it's creation, nor it's intent. I'll take due process, thank you very much.
Due process for those who don’t follow our process?
That really makes sense to you Humberto?
 
I judge that, to be it's intent. We will let the courts decide.
Well, that's your opinion the actual law says otherwise

"Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government"
 
The poster has an agenda in harmony with those intent on destroying the United States from within.

You are absolutely correct . . . the Act doesn't require a "declared war".

What we do know is, during the time period (1798) when Congress enacted The Alien Enemies Act, Congress had an unambiguous intention to protect the United States from disaffected or seditious persons residing within the United States, e.g. on May 16th,1798 we find the following:

ALIENS.

Mr. Sewall said, the Committee for the Protection of Commerce and Defence of the Country, to whom it was referred to inquire into what measures would be proper to be taken respecting aliens, were of opinion their instructions did not go to a sufficient extent, and directed him to propose to the House the following resolution for adoption:

“ Resolved, That the committee on that part of the President’s Speech which relates to commerce and the defence of the country, be authorized to consider the danger which may result by means of aliens and other disaffected or seditious persons residing within the United States, and what measures ought to be taken for securing, removing, or otherwise restricting such persons, and to report by bill or otherwise.” SOURCE

And later, on May, 22nd, Congressional Record, House of Representatives, page 1791, we find:

“Mr. O. believed, therefore, that it would be best to vest a discretionally power in the Executive to secure and take care that these men should do no injury. And this could not be looked upon as a dangerous or exorbitant power, since the President would have the power, the moment war was declared, to apprehend the whole of these people as enemies, and make them prisoners of war. And in case of a predatory incursion, made on this country, there might be as much reason for securing some of them as in case of actual war or invasion.”___ LINK

As it turns out, all the crap about an actual war being required is made up crap, unsupported by the legislative intent of the AEA.

Judge Rodriguez has taken the liberty to attach his personal views of fairness, reasonableness, and justice to the Alien Enemies Act in order to subvert the very intentions of the Act.

JWK

The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968
Like Scalia, I'm not a big fan of using legislative intent as a interpretation tool. Any congresscritter can put virtually anything they want into the legislative record to support an interpretation they want.

The only thing that counts is the words in the statute they agreed on when the passed the law.
 
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Judge Rodriguez, in support of his ORDER permanently blocking the Trump Administration from detaining, transferring or removing Venezuelans targeted for deportation under the Alien Enemies Act (AEA), discards and dismisses one of the most fundamental age old rules requiring an adherence to “legislative intent”, and he goes on to attach his personal views to the Act to support his order.

Judge Rodriguez writes: “The historical context for the enactment of a statute can prove relevant, but does not dictate the statutory words’ meaning. See, e.g., Airlines for Am. v. Dep’t of Transportation, 110 F.4th 672, 676 (5th Cir. 2024) (confirming that “legislative history is not the law,” and it cannot “muddy clear statutory language”) . . . “

And yet, in Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903), our Supreme Court emphatically states:

”But there is another question underlying this and all other rules for the interpretation of statutes, and that is what was the intention of the legislative body? Without going back to the famous case of the drawing of blood in the streets of Bologna, the books are full of authorities to the effect that the intention of the lawmaking power will prevail even against the letter of the statute; or, as tersely expressed by Mr. Justice Swayne in 90 U.S. 380" :

“A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law.”


Those who have actually taken the time and studied the 1798 CONGRESSIONAL DEBATES: ALIEN ENEMIES which created An act respecting Alien Enemies will find its very purpose and legislative intent, when the United States and her citizens were under threat which involved “aliens”, was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to classify, apprehend, restrain, secure and remove, aliens deemed, as stated in the President’s Proclamation, who pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

Judge, Fernandez Rodriguez, in his written order, has not only ignored and subverted a fundamental rule of statutory construction requiring an adherence to legislative intent, but has done so to prevent the deportation of millions upon millions of poverty-stricken, poorly educated, low-skilled, diseased, disabled, criminal, un-vetted terrorist and religious fanatic foreign nationals who have entered the United States illegally, and are now inflicting devastating pain and suffering upon American Citizens and their children, which includes murder, rape, theft, assault, not to mention overburdening our emergency care rooms, public schools and public housing, all of which are meant for American citizens and their children, and not the illegal entrant aliens who Judge Rodriguez is protecting with his subversive and tyrannical order.

JWK

Our courts, federal and state, are infested with FIFTH COLUMN activist judges (Judge Charlotte Sweeney, Judge Landya McCafferty, Judge Shelley Joseph, Judge Indira Talwani, Judge Amy Berman Jackson, Judge Hannah Dugan, Judge Fernandez Rodriguez, Judge James Boasberg, Judge Randolph Moss, Judge William Alsup, Judge Loren AliKhan,. . and many others), who are intent on undermining the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
The AEA is very specifically worded.

It says "declared war".

I would prefer if President Trump invoked a different authority. He has plenty of them, at least half a dozen.

That being said, I agree we're figuratively "at war" with foreign gangs.

The thing is, in reality they're more domestic than they are foreign.

I don't think it's a great idea for the president to stretch the law in such an obvious manner. Even though I support what he's doing.
 
Like Scalia, I'm not a big fan of using legislative intent as a interpretation tool. Any congresscritter can put virtually anything they want into the legislative record to support an interpretation they want.

The only thing that counts is the words in the statute they agreed on when the passed the law.

Your opinion is noted, but our Constitution commands an adherence to “the rules of the common law”.

In a newspaper article published in the Alexandria Gazette, July 2, 1819, Chief Justice Marshall asserted he could "cite from [the common law] the most complete evidence that the intention is the most sacred rule of interpretation."


This very rule concerning legislative intent is also stated by Jefferson in the following words:

"On every question of construction [of the Constitution], carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed."--Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322.

And the noteworthy Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law (1858) confirms the truth of the matter as follows:

"The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void.


You may also find a recent Supreme Court decision quite interesting in which the SCOTUS references the Federalist Papers 18 times in order to discover the intent of our Constitution and enforce it. See UNITED STATES v. LOPEZ, (1995)

And this is in harmony with what the Court stated in HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)


The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it.

Also see the following:


Pfingst v. State, 57 A.D.2d 163, 165 (3d Dep’t 1977) (per curiam) (“It is a cardinal rule of construction that no part of the Constitution should be construed so as to defeat its purpose or the intent of the people adopting it.”).

"Where language used in a constitution is capable of two constructions, it must be so construed as to carry into effect the purpose of the constitutional convention.” Ratliff v Beal, 74 Miss.247,20 So 865 .

"In construing federal constitutional provisions, the United States Supreme Court has regularly looked for the purpose the framers sought to accomplish.”Everson v Board of Education, 330 US 1, 91 L Ed 711,67 S Ct 504, 168 ALR 1392. (1947)

"The primary principle underlying an interpretation of constitutions is that the intent is the vital part and the essence of the law." Rasmussen v Baker, 7 Wyo 117, 50 P 819.

I could provide countless other quotes to establish the fact that enforcing the documented intentions and beliefs under which a Statute or our Constitution was adopted, is one of the courts primary functions, even our very own Congress is aware it is required to be obedient to the intentions and beliefs under which our Constitution was adopted although they ignore it today:

"In construing the Constitution we are compelled to give it such interpretation as will secure the result intended to be accomplished by those who framed it and the people who adopted it...A construction which would give the phrase...a meaning differing from the sense in which it was understood and employed by the people when they adopted the Constitution, would be as unconstitutional as a departure from the plain and express language of the Constitution."_____ Senate Report No. 21, 42nd Cong. 2d Session 2 (1872), reprinted in Alfred Avins, The Reconstruction Amendments’ Debates 571 (1967)

And let us not forget what is stated in American Jurisprudence:

The fundamental principle of constitutional construction is that effect must be given to the intent of the framers of the organic law and of the people adopting it. This is the polestar in the construction of constitutions, all other principles of construction are only rules or guides to aid in the determination of the intention of the constitution’s framers. Vol.16 American Jurisprudence, 2d Constitutional law (1992 edition), pages 418-19 - - - Par. 92. Intent of framers and adopters as controlling.

The irrefutable fact is, and was stated by Justice Hugo Black :
"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968.

JWK

“A thing may be within the letter of a statute and not within its meaning, and within its meaning, though not within its letter. The intention of the lawmaker is the law.” Hawaii v. Mankichi, 190 U.S. 197 (1903)
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