Anti-Zionist beliefs ‘worthy of respect’, UK tribunal finds

[jotathought]

What did they say ?

Something 'offensive' that the officers wouldn't share.

 

[daveman]

Not true tho is it ?

You're right. She was arrested for criticizing people who murdered children.

The rioting traces back to July 29, when three children were tragically murdered in a knife attack at a Taylor Swift-themed party in Southport, England. Ten others were injured.

That same day, a 55-year-old woman from Chester posted a claim on social media that the suspect “was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year and was on an MI6 watch list.”

“If this is true,” she wrote, “then all hell is about to break loose.”

It was not true. The 17-year-old suspect was “born in Wales to Rwandan parents” and is not an asylum seeker, but claims to the contrary spread rapidly over social media, shared in part by Russian state-affiliated media.

The woman from Chester has since been arrested for “publishing written material to stir up racial hatred” and “false communication.”

And she wasn't the only one.

Jordan Parlour, 28, of Seacroft, plead guilty to publishing written material "intended to stir racial hatred" when he urged rioters to target the Britannia hotel - a location used to house asylum seekers.

Appearing at Leeds Crown Court on Friday, the judge handed down a sentence of 20 months in prison for the social media comments.

He becomes the first person to be jailed over online posts linked to the riots, which began following the killing of three young girls at a Taylor Swift dance party in Southport.

In one such post, Parlour wrote that immigrants "rape our kids and get priority", sharing the racially aggravating messages with his 15,000 facebook friends.

And one UK police commissioner apparently forgot we had a war his side lost.

London’s Metropolitan Police chief warned that officials will not only be cracking down on British citizens for commentary on the riots in the U.K., but on American citizens as well.

“We will throw the full force of the law at people. And whether you’re in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you,” Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Mark Rowley told Sky News.

Riots have broken out across the United Kingdom in recent days over false rumors spread online that an asylum seeker was responsible for a mass stabbing at a Taylor Swift-themed dance event that left three girls dead and others wounded. The murders, allegedly committed by a now 18-year-old British citizen born to Rwandan parents, sparked a series of violent protests that tapped into broader concerns about the scale of immigration in the U.K.

Footage of the violent clashes involving anti-immigration protesters and the groups of counter-protesters, some of whom have been seen waving Palestinian flags, has gone viral on social media, and the government is warning that sharing such content may have serious consequences.

One key aspect that makes this apparent crackdown on social media particularly shocking to critics is that the British government is threatening to extradite American citizens from the U.S. to be jailed in the U.K. for violating their rules about political speech online.

A Sky News reporter asked Commissioner Rowley to further explain his warning, arguing that high profile figures have been “whipping up the hatred,” and that “the likes of Elon Musk” have been getting involved. She then asked what the police force’s plan will be “when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behavior from behind the keyboard who may be in a different country?”

Rowley answered by telling the reporter, “Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law.”

“You can be guilty of offenses of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred, there are numerous terrorist offenses regarding the publishing of material,” he said. “All of those offenses are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets, and we will come after those individuals just as we will physically confront on the streets the thugs and the yobs who are taking — who are causing the problems for communities.”

 

[Donald H]

The Fourth Reich can't be far off now, Herr Donald!

Hitler didn't get it right but many years later, the UK has it.

The Zionists begged the question they have been dreading by making themselves distinct from the rest of the regime's people.

 

[daveman]

Hitler didn't get it right but many years later, the UK has it.

The Zionists begged the question they have been dreading by making themselves distinct from the rest of the regime's people.

Hitler didn't get it right? Do you mean he didn't kill enough?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You're right. She was arrested for criticizing people who murdered children.


And she wasn't the only one.

And one UK police commissioner apparently forgot we had a war his side lost.

She was arrested for stirring racial hatred by spreading lies. Rightly so.
She spread lies and there were riots.

 

[daveman]

She was arrested for stirring racial hatred by spreading lies. Rightly so.
She spread lies and there were riots.

She didn't cause the riots. She wasn't present at the riots.

Great Britain used to be a planetary empire. Now they force you to make nice so you don't hurt the feelings of barbarians who rape and murder children.

You should perhaps just shut the fuck up.

 

[irosie91]

She didn't cause the riots. She wasn't present at the riots.

Great Britain used to be a planetary empire. Now they force you to make nice so you don't hurt the feelings of barbarians who rape and murder children.

You should perhaps just shut the fuck up.

I am curious---what LIES led to riots?

 

[daveman]

I am curious---what LIES led to riots?

The woman said the killer was a foreigner, but he was born in Wales of immigrant parents.

A lie? Nothing worth getting mad about.

No, what started the riots were the murders and stabbings the man committed.

But like a good subject of the Crown, Tommy is completely unable to criticize the man for it.

The brave, strong, and honorable men in Britain died in the two World Wars. Sniveling cowards are all that's left.

 

[zaangalewa]

Anti-Zionist beliefs ‘worthy of respect’, UK tribunal finds

Judges say unfairly dismissed academic David Miller’s views on Israel should be protected by antidiscrimination laws

www.theguardian.com

In February the tribunal ruled that Prof David Miller was unfairly discriminated against when he was dismissed by the University of Bristol over allegations of making antisemitic remarks, in a decision the Union of Jewish Students said set a dangerous precedent.

The tribunal has now published its 120-page judgment setting out why Miller’s beliefs warranted protection under antidiscrimination laws.

This is a welcome victory for common sense. Too many of these zionists try to crush debate by screaming anti semite.They do the wider Jewish community a diservice.
Israel is not above criticism. The same as any other country.

Anti semitism is a grevious slur. Its an accusation that should not be used lightly. Otherwise it loses any power.

Idiots. Nobody can tolerate the idea of drowning all Britons in the sea. Or tolerate the idea to kill all Normans and Anglo-Saxons because they are Nazis. What means "worthy of respect" in case of such absurde ideas?

The belief that Israel’s actions amount to apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide are “worthy of respect in a democratic society”, an employment tribunal has concluded in a landmark decision.

Apartheid without any Apartheid law. Not any ethnic cleansing and a "genocide" where Israel took care that the Palestinian Arabs have the highest population growth of the world. Who for heavens sake is able to take serios such a bullshit who has not only eyes in the own ass?

 

[zaangalewa]

They need to integrate like those evil muslims.

The Jews in Germany before Hitler came had been Germans like all others. Germany was not able to integrate the Nazis. The Nazis had been the absurde strange element - not so the Jews.

 

[irosie91]

Apartheid without any Apartheid law. Not any ethnic cleansing and a "genocide" where Israel took care that the Palestinian Arabs have the highest population growth of the world. Who for heavens sake is able to take serios such a bullshit who has not only eyes in the own ass?

are you actually that naive?

 

[zaangalewa]

are you actually that naive?

You are naive - what would change if your daughter is an hostage in the hands of the Hamas and you would drink tea in your garden while conversating about how the weather will be when the rockets of the Iranian Ayatollahs in the Lebanon will fly deeper over your head. The citizens of the democracy Israel are called Israeli - and all of them have the same rights. The mind manipulated slaves under the terror government "Hamas" are called Palestinians. They had not been able to vote since 20 years. That's why the EU for example - a union of democracies - payed to the terror organization Hamas every year more than 2.5 billion Euro. And also other democracies payed a lot of money to this "government" since about 20 years.

And you are by the way also naive when you do not like to see that one of the names of the Iranian Ayatollahs is Putin.

What a luck that Israel has strong allies like the German economics minister Robert Habeck so Israel got from Germany ~32.500 Euro - in words: thirtytwothousandfivehundred Euro - military assistence in the last year.

If someone is "naive" then this is in my view to the world for example our current German government.

--- Background:

Hat Habeck seine „uneingeschränkte Solidarität“ mit Israel eingeschränkt?

Nach einem Medienbericht ist ausgerechnet der nach dem Hamas-Angriff besonders solidarische grüne Wirtschaftsminister für den Waffenlieferstopp mitverantwortlich.

Für die starke Reduktion der deutschen Waffenlieferungen an Israel im letzten halben Jahr sind nach einem Bericht der „Bild“-Zeitung die Grünen verantwortlich: Außenministerin Annalena Baerbock, aber auch Wirtschaftsminister Robert Habeck hätten die Erteilung weiterer Exportgenehmigungen seit März blockiert. Dies berichtete die „Bild“ gestern unter Berufung auf „Regierungs- und Verteidigungskreise aller Ampelparteien“. Dagegen habe das Wirtschaftsministerium noch im September behauptet, es gebe keinen Rüstungsexportboykott nach Israel. Jeder Antrag werde geprüft und im Einzelfall bewertet.

Die ausbleibende Unterstützung war bei der Gedenkdebatte zum Hamas-Angriff vor einem Jahr im Bundestag von CDU-Chef Friedrich Merz kritisiert worden. Er hatte der Bundesregierung vorgeworfen, „seit Wochen und Monaten“ Exportgenehmigungen für Munition und Panzer-Ersatzteile zu verweigern. Bundeskanzler Scholz hatte darauf gekontert, eine Entscheidung, keine Waffen zu liefern, gebe es nicht. Man habe geliefert und werde liefern. Auch israelische Regierungsvertreter hatten Kritik an der Politik der Bundesregierung geäußert. Gegenüber dieser Zeitung hatte der Armeesprecher Arye Sharuz Shalicar das „stille Waffenembargo“ Deutschlands als „schockierend“ bezeichnet. Dieses Verhalten werde „einen dunklen Fleck auf dem deutschen Gewissen hinterlassen“.

Was „uneingeschränkte Solidarität“ bedeutet

Wie die „Bild“ nun erfahren haben will, hätten Habeck und Baerbock alle Genehmigungen blockiert, solange die israelische Regierung der deutschen Regierung nicht schriftlich versichere, die Rüstungsexporte nicht für einen „Völkermord“ einzusetzen. Die israelische Regierung habe diese Zusage vor „wenigen Tagen“ getätigt – die Scholz’sche Ankündigung weiterer Lieferungen dürfte damit im Zusammenhang stehen.

Brisant ist an der Forderung nicht nur, dass Deutschland damit Israel, dessen Sicherheit immer wieder von deutscher Regierungsseite als „Staatsräson“ bezeichnet wurde, indirekt attestiert, zu einem Völkermord fähig zu sein. Gerade der grüne Minister Robert Habeck hatte sich nach dem Hamas-Angriff am stärksten außenpolitisch exponiert. In einer im Internet verbreiteten Videobotschaft seines Ministeriums verkündete Habeck vor einer israelischen und deutschen Flagge, Israel habe „unsere uneingeschränkte Solidarität“.

Sind die Bild-Informationen korrekt, dann hat in Habeck ausgerechnet der Politiker, der als einziger Spitzenpolitiker nach dem Angriff diese spezielle Formulierung benutzte, für eine Einschränkung der Solidarität gesorgt. Habecks Formulierung hatte damals auch deshalb international und national für viel Aufmerksamkeit gesorgt, weil er damit Gerhard Schröders Zusicherung an die Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika zitiert hatte. Dessen „uneingeschränkte Solidarität“ mit den von den Anschlägen des 11. September 2001 getroffenen USA hatte in der Folge zu einer Beteiligung Deutschlands am Krieg in Afghanistan geführt.

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Source: Hat Habeck seine „uneingeschränkte Solidarität“ mit Israel eingeschränkt?
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Translation:

Has Habeck limited his “unrestricted solidarity” with Israel?

According to a media report, the Green Minister of Economics, of all people, who showed particular solidarity after the Hamas attack, is partly responsible for the arms delivery stop.

According to a report in the “Bild” newspaper, the Greens are responsible for the sharp reduction in German arms deliveries to Israel over the last six months: Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock and Economics Minister Robert Habeck have been blocking the granting of further export licenses since March. This was reported yesterday by “Bild”, citing “government and defense circles of all traffic light parties”. In contrast, the Ministry of Economics claimed in September that there was no boycott of arms exports to Israel. Every application is examined and assessed on a case-by-case basis.

The lack of support was criticized by CDU leader Friedrich Merz during the commemorative debate on the Hamas attack in the Bundestag a year ago. He had accused the German government of refusing export licenses for ammunition and tank spare parts “for weeks and months”. Chancellor Scholz had countered that there was no decision not to supply weapons. They had delivered and would deliver. Israeli government representatives had also criticized the German government's policy. Army spokesman Arye Sharuz Shalicar told this newspaper that Germany's “silent arms embargo” was “shocking”. This behavior will “leave a dark stain on the German conscience”.

What “unrestricted solidarity” means

As “Bild” claims to have learned, Habeck and Baerbock have blocked all licenses as long as the Israeli government does not assure the German government in writing that the arms exports will not be used for “genocide”. The Israeli government gave this assurance “a few days ago” - Scholz's announcement of further deliveries is likely to be related to this.

What is explosive about this demand is not only that Germany is indirectly certifying that Israel, whose security has repeatedly been described by the German government as a “reason of state”, is capable of genocide. It was the Green Minister Robert Habeck who exposed himself most strongly in terms of foreign policy after the Hamas attack. In a video message from his ministry broadcast on the internet, Habeck announced in front of an Israeli and German flag that Israel had “our unreserved solidarity”.

If the Bild information is correct, then Habeck, of all people, was the politician who was the only top politician to use this particular formulation after the attack, thus restricting solidarity. Habeck's wording also attracted a lot of international and national attention at the time because he had used it to quote Gerhard Schröder's assurance to the United States of America. His “unrestricted solidarity” with the USA, which had been hit by the attacks of September 11, 2001, had subsequently led to Germany's participation in the war in Afghanistan

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Again: If someone is "naive" then this is in my view to the world for example our current German government.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The woman said the killer was a foreigner, but he was born in Wales of immigrant parents.

A lie? Nothing worth getting mad about.

No, what started the riots were the murders and stabbings the man committed.

But like a good subject of the Crown, Tommy is completely unable to criticize the man for it.

The brave, strong, and honorable men in Britain died in the two World Wars. Sniveling cowards are all that's left.

She cteated a whole narratuve about the killer. None of it was true. She incited fuckwits to attack mosques and other places in supposed retaliation.

You may argue that these people were stupid fo falling for her shit. But jer intent wass c;ear. Starting riots is not legitimate.

We dont need people like that in the UK. In America you are close to anarchy bevause you tolerate this nonsense. J6 is a prime example.

 

[luiza]

Israel is not above criticism. The same as any other country.

Exactly .
Since their Phoenician forebears they have lied about everything.
Today they operate as the Deep State and are the scourge of our species and its true history .

P.S. Join the Trump Land Slide Festival this weekend .
No Lefty Mutants welcome .

 

[zaangalewa]

Exactly .

Since their Phoenician forebears ...

Sorry, Russian, but the Hebrews never had been Phoenicians and the Palestinians are Arabs. Arabs also have not Phoenician ancestors - although the Phoenicians spoke a semitic language. Nevertheless about 27% of the people in the Lebanon have genetically also Phoenician ancestors - and 1 of 17 people who live around the "mare nostrum", the Mediterranian sea, also have also Phoenician ancestors.

I guess one day will exist a special "departement for Russian history" directly in every "museum for obscure history". Indeed the history which had happened thousands of years ago has nothing to do with the current conflicts in this area and has specially also nothing not with the very agressive worldwide politics of Putins KGB (=also called "Russia"). Question: Manipulated and/or caused the KGB the attack of the Hamas about one year ago? Together with the Iranian Ayatollahs? Or against some of the Iranians? War "unites" the own people. War causes enemies to be "friends". So how absurde are the real plans of Putin and his KGB? And who are the idiots who play the game of Putin?

 

[daveman]

She cteated a whole narratuve about the killer. None of it was true. She incited fuckwits to attack mosques and other places in supposed retaliation.

You may argue that these people were stupid fo falling for her shit. But jer intent wass c;ear. Starting riots is not legitimate.

We dont need people like that in the UK. In America you are close to anarchy bevause you tolerate this nonsense. J6 is a prime example.

Freedom of speech is a bitch. We had a war about whether we need to listen to you sniveling pussies.

You lost.

 

[zaangalewa]

Freedom of speech is a bitch. ...

Not the freedom of speech is any problem. Stupidity is the problem. A lack of knowledge, heart and craftsmanship is the problem. And wrong priorities as well as a lack of a good feeling for justice are a problem. For example dies in every abortion a human being - nevertheless try very most people who discuss about abortion to ignore the basic problem that to kill a human being never is able to be a human right. Similar is the situation with "surrogate" motherhood - what is nothing else than a racist anti-woman slavery.

By the way: To win a war also never means to win peace. Peace wins peace - peace is its own justification. War is in "best" case only an unevitable [extended] self-defense.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Freedom of speech is a bitch. We had a war about whether we need to listen to you sniveling pussies.

You lost.

Our society neednt pander to the stupid. Like you do in America.