Benjamin Netanyahu: Israel to retain key West Bank settlement in any peace deal

In 1615 the English traveler George Sandys described Palestine as "a land that flows with milk and honey; in the midst as it were of the habitable world, and under a temperate clime; adorned with beautiful mountains and luxurious valleys; the rocks producing excellent waters; and no part empty of delight or profit."(4)

A British missionary who lived in Beirut and visited Palestine in 1859 described the southern coastal area as "a very ocean of wheat," and the British Consul in Jerusalem, James Finn, reported that "the fields would do credit to British farming."(5)

The German geographer Alexander Scholch concluded that between 1856 and 1882 "Palestine produced a relatively large agricultural surplus which was marketed in neighboring countries, such as Egypt and Lebanon, and increasingly exported to Europe. These exports included wheat, barley, dura, maise, sesame, olive oil, soap, oranges, vegetables and cotton. Among the European importers of Palestinian produce were France, England, Turkey, Greece, Italy and Malta."(6)

Lawrence Oliphant, who visited Palestine in 1887, wrote that Palestine's Valley of Esdraelon was "a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive."(7) This Palestinian wheat had historically played an important part in international commerce. According to Paul Masson, a French economic historian, "wheat shipments from the Palestinian port of Acre had helped to save southern France from famine on numerous occasions in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries."(8)

Agricultural techniques in Palestine, especially in citriculture, were among the most advanced in the world long before the first Zionist settlers came to its shores. In 1856, the American consul in Jerusalem, Henry Gillman, "outlined reasons why orange growers in Florida would find it advantageous to adopt Palestinian techniques of grafting directly onto lemon trees."^ In 1893, the British Consul advised his government of the value of importing "young trees procured from Jaffa" to improve production in Australia and South Africa.(10)

All of this historical evidence from unimpeachable eyewitnesses destroys Israel's contention that it developed Palestine through its colonization. The legend that the Zionists have created, that they made "the desert bloom with roses," is totally without foundation. It is a ploy to gain donations from naive Jews throughout the world and to help extort economic aid from the American Congress. The economic achievements of Israel today are built totally on the capital base of lands, property and possessions usurped from the Palestinian Arabs.

Chapter 2: Encyclopedia of the Palestine Problem

Your quotes are bogus.

My quotes pertaining to the desolate condition of Palestine before Jewish immigration are from official British records.

To wit...

Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine, JULY, 1920--JUNE, 1921, presented to the British Cabinet...
When General Allenby's army swept over Palestine, in a campaign as brilliant and decisive as any recorded in history, it occupied a country exhausted by war. The population had been depleted; the people of the towns were in severe distress; much cultivated land was left untilled; the stocks of cattle and horses had fallen to a low ebb; the woodlands, always scanty, had almost disappeared; orange groves had been ruined by lack of irrigation; commerce had long been at a standstill. A Military Administration was established to govern the country. For nearly two years it laboured, with great devotion, at its restoration. An administrative system, as efficient as the conditions allowed, was set up. The revenue authorised by the Turkish law was collected, and was spent on the needs of the country. A considerable sum, advanced by the Anglo-Egyptian Bank, was lent by the Government in small amounts to the agriculturists, and enabled them to purchase stock and seed, and partly to restore their cultivation. Philanthropic agencies in other countries came to the relief of the most necessitous. Commerce began to revive. It was encouraged by the new railway connection with Egypt, established during the campaign for purposes of military transport. It was assisted also by the construction, with the same object, of a net-work of good roads. The country showed all the signs of gradually returning life.

But the prospects of Palestine are not limited, on the economic side, merely to a return to the standard attained before the war. It has the possibilities of a far more prosperous future. Small in area--comparable in size to Belgium or Wales--its geographical position rendered it in ancient times, and may render it again, a centre of no small importance to the commercial traffic of the larger territories that surround it. Within the limits of a province, it offers the varieties of soil and climate of a continent. It is a country of mountain and plain, of desert and pleasant valleys, of lake and sea-board, of barren hills, desolate to the last degree of desolation, and of broad stretches of deep, fruitful soil. The rainfall of Jerusalem equals that of London. The water problem, over most of the country, is not a question of quantity, but of storage, of pumping and of distribution.

It is obvious to every passing traveller, and well-known to every European resident, that the country was before the War, and is now, undeveloped and under-populated. The methods of agriculture are, for the most part, primitive; the area of land now cultivated could yield a far greater product. There are in addition large cultivable areas that are left untilled. The summits and slopes of the hills are admirably suited to the growth of trees, but there are no forests. Miles of sand dunes that could be redeemed, are untouched, a danger, by their encroachment, to the neighbouring tillage. The Jordan and the Yarmuk offer an abundance of water-power; but it is unused. Some industries--fishing and the culture and manufacture of tobacco are examples--have been killed by Turkish laws; none have been encouraged; the markets of Palestine and of the neighbouring countries are supplied almost wholly from Europe. The seaborne commerce, such as it is, is loaded and discharged in the open roadsteads of Jaffa and Haifa: there are no harbours. The religious and historical associations that offer most powerful attractions to the whole of the Western, and to a large part of the Eastern world, have hitherto brought to Palestine but a fraction of the pilgrims and travellers, who, under better conditions, would flock to her sacred shrines and famous sites.

The country is under-populated because of this lack of development. There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. After the persecutions in Russia forty years ago, the movement of the Jews to Palestine assumed larger proportions. Jewish agricultural colonies were founded. They developed the culture of oranges and gave importance to the Jaffa orange trade. They cultivated the vine, and manufactured and exported wine. They drained swamps. They planted eucalyptus trees. They practised, with modern methods, all the processes of agriculture. There are at the present time 64 of these settlements, large and small, with a population of some 15,000. Every traveller in Palestine who visits them is impressed by the contrast between these pleasant villages, with the beautiful stretches of prosperous cultivation about them and the primitive conditions of life and work by which they are surrounded.

The success of these agricultural colonies attracted the eager interest of the masses of the Jewish people scattered throughout the world. In many countries they were living under the pressure of laws or customs which cramped their capacities and thwarted their energies; they saw in Palestine the prospect of a home in which they might live at ease. Profoundly discontented, as numbers of them were, with a life of petty trade in crowded cities, they listened with ready ears to the call of a healthier and finer life as producers on the land. Some among them, agriculturists already, saw in Palestine the prospect of a soil not less fertile, and an environment far more free, than those to which they were accustomed. Everywhere great numbers of Jews, whose religion causes them to live, spiritually, largely in the past, began to take an active interest in those passages of their ritual, that dwelt, with constant emphasis, upon the connection of their race with Palestine; passages which they had hitherto read day by day and week by week, with the lax attention that is given to contingency that is possible but remote. Among a great proportion, at least, of the fourteen millions of Jews, who are dispersed in all the countries of the globe, the Zionist idea took hold. They found in it that larger and higher interest, outside and beyond the cares and concerns of daily life, which every man, who is not wholly materialist, must seek somewhere.

That's nice.

Note: in the fourth picture, taken in 1937, there is a Palestinian flag on that building.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGBoGKPZlQE&feature=related]YouTube - Palestine before 1948[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEBQ_bE7uA]YouTube - Palestine Pre-1947[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJXC046hzXQ&feature=related]YouTube - The Culture of Palestine[/ame]

Palliewood videos? LOL

Sorry, the British records I have posted about desolate Palestine make your silly bogus videos make you look like a dunce.

Palestine was never self-sufficient pre-Israel.
 
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HAHAHA!

as if Israel IS self sufficient, you fucking leach. Good thing you don't count all the money that the USA pours into your little bastion of hatred, eh little chosen boy?

give me a break.
 
HAHAHA!

as if Israel IS self sufficient, you fucking leach. Good thing you don't count all the money that the USA pours into your little bastion of hatred, eh little chosen boy?

give me a break.

Er, yeah, Israel is very self-sufficient. That leach thing is way out-dated, towel head.

Warren Buffett...
Israel is now a major factor in commerce and in the world, and, is a smaller replica of what has been accomplished in the US and I think Americans admire that. They feel good about a society that is on the move
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaN_2nFqFtI]YouTube - Warren Buffet Supports the U.S.-Israel Relationship[/ame]
 
Your quotes are bogus.

My quotes pertaining to the desolate condition of Palestine before Jewish immigration are from official British records.

To wit...

Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine, JULY, 1920--JUNE, 1921, presented to the British Cabinet...

That's nice.

Note: in the fourth picture, taken in 1937, there is a Palestinian flag on that building.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGBoGKPZlQE&feature=related]YouTube - Palestine before 1948[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEBQ_bE7uA]YouTube - Palestine Pre-1947[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJXC046hzXQ&feature=related]YouTube - The Culture of Palestine[/ame]

Palliewood videos? LOL

Sorry, the British records I have posted about desolate Palestine make your silly bogus videos make you look like a dunce.

Palestine was never self-sufficient pre-Israel.

And Israel has spent its whole life living on the mooch. Is there a point here?

Even in the backwater:

Under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, in 1596, Najd formed part nahiya (subdistrict) of Gaza under the liwa' (district) of Gaza with a population of 215. It paid taxes on a number of crops, including wheat, barley and fruit, as well as on goats, beehives and vineyards.[6]

Edward Robinson, who travelled through Palestine in 1838, noted that Najd lay south of a wadi, and described how the villagers were winnowing barley by throwing it into the air against the wind with wooden forks.[7]

In the late 19th century, Claude Conder writes that Najd was a small village with a well and a pond.[8]

As the population grew during the Mandate period, the village expanded northwestward. The village population was Muslim, and the children attended school in Simsim, 2 kilometers (1 mi) to the northeast. The villagers worked primarily in agriculture and animal husbandry. Fields of grain and fruit trees surrounded Najd on all sides. The fruit trees were concentrated to the north and northeastern sides, where irrigation water was available from wells.[9]

Cultivated lands in the village in 1944-45 included a total of 10 dunums allocated for citrus and bananas and 11,916 dunums for cereals. An additional 511 dunums were irrigated or used for orchards. The population at this time was 620.[9][10]

Najd, Gaza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One of the great advantages of the British mandate is that Palestinians were freed from the heavy taxation of the Ottoman Empire freeing capital for improvements. Palestine flourished without this oppressive taxation.
 
HAHAHA!

as if Israel IS self sufficient, you fucking leach. Good thing you don't count all the money that the USA pours into your little bastion of hatred, eh little chosen boy?

give me a break.

Er, yeah, Israel is very self-sufficient. That leach thing is way out-dated, towel head.

Warren Buffett...
Israel is now a major factor in commerce and in the world, and, is a smaller replica of what has been accomplished in the US and I think Americans admire that. They feel good about a society that is on the move
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaN_2nFqFtI]YouTube - Warren Buffet Supports the U.S.-Israel Relationship[/ame]

:rofl:


now, we BOTH know that israel would crumble were it not propped up with American tax dollars, little chosen boy. This year alone israel will see more American money than you can even fathom. But hey.. if Warren Buffett says that they are a "major factor"....


:rofl:


:rolleyes:

:clap2:
 
What is disgusting is that the US gives money to fund palestinian terrorism.

They are in good company. OBL is all for the "palestinian cause"
 
tell me MORE about how self sufficient israel is, you fucking leach.

The Raw Story | US Congress approves Israel aid increase


:rofl:

Well douchebag, what is sad is the aid the US gives to Egypt.

$50 billion later, taking stock of US aid to Egypt / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

And what does it gain it? Ollie North said that Egypt actively let the Achille Lauro terrorists get away.

Israel has helped the US in the war against terrorism. It even bombed Iraqi's nuclear reactor.

What has Egypt done to earn any aid from the US?
 
tell me MORE about how self sufficient israel is, you fucking leach.

The Raw Story | US Congress approves Israel aid increase


:rofl:

Well douchebag, what is sad is the aid the US gives to Egypt.

$50 billion later, taking stock of US aid to Egypt / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

And what does it gain it? Ollie North said that Egypt actively let the Achille Lauro terrorists get away.

Israel has helped the US in the war against terrorism. It even bombed Iraqi's nuclear reactor.

What has Egypt done to earn any aid from the US?

well, that sure is your racist opinion, isn't it?

christian science monitor? a fucking war criminal like OLIVER NORTH?

:rofl:

ooook.

:thup:


but hey.. let's redirect from the supposed autonomy of israel just to bash some more sand *******, right?


:rolleyes:
 
What is disgusting is that the US gives money to fund palestinian terrorism.

They are in good company. OBL is all for the "palestinian cause"

yea yea yea... whatever you say, master race, what ever you say. Maybe you should take your Aipac ass to israel and leave your hebrew opinion there.. you know, where killing pregnant pali women is a team sport.
 
What is disgusting is that the US gives money to fund palestinian terrorism.

They are in good company. OBL is all for the "palestinian cause"

yea yea yea... whatever you say, master race, what ever you say. Maybe you should take your Aipac ass to israel and leave your hebrew opinion there.. you know, where killing pregnant pali women is a team sport.

Pregnant Pallie women should be beaten, like the Quran instructs.
 
tell me MORE about how self sufficient israel is, you fucking leach.

The Raw Story | US Congress approves Israel aid increase


:rofl:

Well douchebag, what is sad is the aid the US gives to Egypt.

$50 billion later, taking stock of US aid to Egypt / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

And what does it gain it? Ollie North said that Egypt actively let the Achille Lauro terrorists get away.

Israel has helped the US in the war against terrorism. It even bombed Iraqi's nuclear reactor.

What has Egypt done to earn any aid from the US?

well, that sure is your racist opinion, isn't it?

christian science monitor? a fucking war criminal like OLIVER NORTH?

:rofl:

ooook.

:thup:


but hey.. let's redirect from the supposed autonomy of israel just to bash some more sand *******, right?


:rolleyes:

Don't call Rabs sand *******. That's disrespectful to Blacks. Call them towel heads or sand rats.
 
HAHAHA!

as if Israel IS self sufficient, you fucking leach. Good thing you don't count all the money that the USA pours into your little bastion of hatred, eh little chosen boy?

give me a break.

Er, yeah, Israel is very self-sufficient. That leach thing is way out-dated, towel head.

Warren Buffett...
Israel is now a major factor in commerce and in the world, and, is a smaller replica of what has been accomplished in the US and I think Americans admire that. They feel good about a society that is on the move
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaN_2nFqFtI]YouTube - Warren Buffet Supports the U.S.-Israel Relationship[/ame]

:rofl:


now, we BOTH know that israel would crumble were it not propped up with American tax dollars, little chosen boy. This year alone israel will see more American money than you can even fathom. But hey.. if Warren Buffett says that they are a "major factor"....


:rofl:


:rolleyes:

:clap2:

Virtually all the money we give to that region is to benefit Israel. The money given to Egypt is to benefit Israel. Same for Jordan. Same for Lebanon. Same for Palestine.
 
tell me MORE about how self sufficient israel is, you fucking leach.

The Raw Story | US Congress approves Israel aid increase


:rofl:

This is how self-sufficient Israel is, loser...
New York Times...
Jews are a famously accomplished group. They make up 0.2 percent of the world population, but 54 percent of the world chess champions, 27 percent of the Nobel physics laureates and 31 percent of the medicine laureates.

Jews make up 2 percent of the U.S. population, but 21 percent of the Ivy League student bodies, 26 percent of the Kennedy Center honorees, 37 percent of the Academy Award-winning directors, 38 percent of those on a recent Business Week list of leading philanthropists, 51 percent of the Pulitzer Prize winners for nonfiction.

In his book, “The Golden Age of Jewish Achievement,” Steven L. Pease lists some of the explanations people have given for this record of achievement. The Jewish faith encourages a belief in progress and personal accountability. It is learning-based, not rite-based.

Most Jews gave up or were forced to give up farming in the Middle Ages; their descendants have been living off of their wits ever since. They have often migrated, with a migrant’s ambition and drive. They have congregated around global crossroads and have benefited from the creative tension endemic in such places.

No single explanation can account for the record of Jewish achievement. The odd thing is that Israel has not traditionally been strongest where the Jews in the Diaspora were strongest. Instead of research and commerce, Israelis were forced to devote their energies to fighting and politics.

Milton Friedman used to joke that Israel disproved every Jewish stereotype. People used to think Jews were good cooks, good economic managers and bad soldiers; Israel proved them wrong.

But that has changed. Benjamin Netanyahu’s economic reforms, the arrival of a million Russian immigrants and the stagnation of the peace process have produced a historic shift. The most resourceful Israelis are going into technology and commerce, not politics. This has had a desultory effect on the nation’s public life, but an invigorating one on its economy.

Tel Aviv has become one of the world’s foremost entrepreneurial hot spots. Israel has more high-tech start-ups per capita than any other nation on earth, by far. It leads the world in civilian research-and-development spending per capita. It ranks second behind the U.S. in the number of companies listed on the Nasdaq. Israel, with seven million people, attracts as much venture capital as France and Germany combined.

As Dan Senor and Saul Singer write in “Start-Up Nation: The Story of Israel’s Economic Miracle,” Israel now has a classic innovation cluster, a place where tech obsessives work in close proximity and feed off each other’s ideas.

Because of the strength of the economy, Israel has weathered the global recession reasonably well. The government did not have to bail out its banks or set off an explosion in short-term spending. Instead, it used the crisis to solidify the economy’s long-term future by investing in research and development and infrastructure, raising some consumption taxes, promising to cut other taxes in the medium to long term. Analysts at Barclays write that Israel is “the strongest recovery story” in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

Israel’s technological success is the fruition of the Zionist dream. The country was not founded so stray settlers could sit among thousands of angry Palestinians in Hebron. It was founded so Jews would have a safe place to come together and create things for the world.

This shift in the Israeli identity has long-term implications. Netanyahu preaches the optimistic view: that Israel will become the Hong Kong of the Middle East, with economic benefits spilling over into the Arab world. And, in fact, there are strands of evidence to support that view in places like the West Bank and Jordan.

But it’s more likely that Israel’s economic leap forward will widen the gap between it and its neighbors. All the countries in the region talk about encouraging innovation. Some oil-rich states spend billions trying to build science centers. But places like Silicon Valley and Tel Aviv are created by a confluence of cultural forces, not money. The surrounding nations do not have the tradition of free intellectual exchange and technical creativity.

For example, between 1980 and 2000, Egyptians registered 77 patents in the U.S. Saudis registered 171. Israelis registered 7,652.

The tech boom also creates a new vulnerability. As Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic has argued, these innovators are the most mobile people on earth. To destroy Israel’s economy, Iran doesn’t actually have to lob a nuclear weapon into the country. It just has to foment enough instability so the entrepreneurs decide they had better move to Palo Alto, where many of them already have contacts and homes. American Jews used to keep a foothold in Israel in case things got bad here. Now Israelis keep a foothold in the U.S.

During a decade of grim foreboding, Israel has become an astonishing success story, but also a highly mobile one.
Op-Ed Columnist - The Tel Aviv Cluster - NYTimes.com
 
Er, yeah, Israel is very self-sufficient. That leach thing is way out-dated, towel head.

Warren Buffett...

YouTube - Warren Buffet Supports the U.S.-Israel Relationship

:rofl:


now, we BOTH know that israel would crumble were it not propped up with American tax dollars, little chosen boy. This year alone israel will see more American money than you can even fathom. But hey.. if Warren Buffett says that they are a "major factor"....


:rofl:


:rolleyes:

:clap2:

Virtually all the money we give to that region is to benefit Israel. The money given to Egypt is to benefit Israel. Same for Jordan. Same for Lebanon. Same for Palestine.

:lol::cuckoo:
 
What is disgusting is that the US gives money to fund palestinian terrorism.

They are in good company. OBL is all for the "palestinian cause"

yea yea yea... whatever you say, master race, what ever you say. Maybe you should take your Aipac ass to israel and leave your hebrew opinion there.. you know, where killing pregnant pali women is a team sport.

Pregnant Pallie women should be beaten, like the Quran instructs.

There you go, tiger! I KNEW you had it in you to validate every opinion i've ever had of zionism!

congrats!


I HOPE JILLIAN IS READING THIS THREAD.


:rofl:
 
Well douchebag, what is sad is the aid the US gives to Egypt.

$50 billion later, taking stock of US aid to Egypt / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com

And what does it gain it? Ollie North said that Egypt actively let the Achille Lauro terrorists get away.

Israel has helped the US in the war against terrorism. It even bombed Iraqi's nuclear reactor.

What has Egypt done to earn any aid from the US?

well, that sure is your racist opinion, isn't it?

christian science monitor? a fucking war criminal like OLIVER NORTH?

:rofl:

ooook.

:thup:


but hey.. let's redirect from the supposed autonomy of israel just to bash some more sand *******, right?


:rolleyes:

Don't call Rabs sand *******. That's disrespectful to Blacks. Call them towel heads or sand rats.


I'll go ahead and choose the verbiage of my own sarcasm. Thanks though, kikenose.

:eusa_shhh:
 
tell me MORE about how self sufficient israel is, you fucking leach.

The Raw Story | US Congress approves Israel aid increase


:rofl:

This is how self-sufficient Israel is, loser...
New York Times...
Jews are a famously accomplished group. They make up 0.2 percent of the world population, but 54 percent of the world chess champions, 27 percent of the Nobel physics laureates and 31 percent of the medicine laureates.

Jews make up 2 percent of the U.S. population, but 21 percent of the Ivy League student bodies, 26 percent of the Kennedy Center honorees, 37 percent of the Academy Award-winning directors, 38 percent of those on a recent Business Week list of leading philanthropists, 51 percent of the Pulitzer Prize winners for nonfiction.

In his book, “The Golden Age of Jewish Achievement,” Steven L. Pease lists some of the explanations people have given for this record of achievement. The Jewish faith encourages a belief in progress and personal accountability. It is learning-based, not rite-based.

Most Jews gave up or were forced to give up farming in the Middle Ages; their descendants have been living off of their wits ever since. They have often migrated, with a migrant’s ambition and drive. They have congregated around global crossroads and have benefited from the creative tension endemic in such places.

No single explanation can account for the record of Jewish achievement. The odd thing is that Israel has not traditionally been strongest where the Jews in the Diaspora were strongest. Instead of research and commerce, Israelis were forced to devote their energies to fighting and politics.

Milton Friedman used to joke that Israel disproved every Jewish stereotype. People used to think Jews were good cooks, good economic managers and bad soldiers; Israel proved them wrong.

But that has changed. Benjamin Netanyahu’s economic reforms, the arrival of a million Russian immigrants and the stagnation of the peace process have produced a historic shift. The most resourceful Israelis are going into technology and commerce, not politics. This has had a desultory effect on the nation’s public life, but an invigorating one on its economy.

Tel Aviv has become one of the world’s foremost entrepreneurial hot spots. Israel has more high-tech start-ups per capita than any other nation on earth, by far. It leads the world in civilian research-and-development spending per capita. It ranks second behind the U.S. in the number of companies listed on the Nasdaq. Israel, with seven million people, attracts as much venture capital as France and Germany combined.

As Dan Senor and Saul Singer write in “Start-Up Nation: The Story of Israel’s Economic Miracle,” Israel now has a classic innovation cluster, a place where tech obsessives work in close proximity and feed off each other’s ideas.

Because of the strength of the economy, Israel has weathered the global recession reasonably well. The government did not have to bail out its banks or set off an explosion in short-term spending. Instead, it used the crisis to solidify the economy’s long-term future by investing in research and development and infrastructure, raising some consumption taxes, promising to cut other taxes in the medium to long term. Analysts at Barclays write that Israel is “the strongest recovery story” in Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

Israel’s technological success is the fruition of the Zionist dream. The country was not founded so stray settlers could sit among thousands of angry Palestinians in Hebron. It was founded so Jews would have a safe place to come together and create things for the world.

This shift in the Israeli identity has long-term implications. Netanyahu preaches the optimistic view: that Israel will become the Hong Kong of the Middle East, with economic benefits spilling over into the Arab world. And, in fact, there are strands of evidence to support that view in places like the West Bank and Jordan.

But it’s more likely that Israel’s economic leap forward will widen the gap between it and its neighbors. All the countries in the region talk about encouraging innovation. Some oil-rich states spend billions trying to build science centers. But places like Silicon Valley and Tel Aviv are created by a confluence of cultural forces, not money. The surrounding nations do not have the tradition of free intellectual exchange and technical creativity.

For example, between 1980 and 2000, Egyptians registered 77 patents in the U.S. Saudis registered 171. Israelis registered 7,652.

The tech boom also creates a new vulnerability. As Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic has argued, these innovators are the most mobile people on earth. To destroy Israel’s economy, Iran doesn’t actually have to lob a nuclear weapon into the country. It just has to foment enough instability so the entrepreneurs decide they had better move to Palo Alto, where many of them already have contacts and homes. American Jews used to keep a foothold in Israel in case things got bad here. Now Israelis keep a foothold in the U.S.

During a decade of grim foreboding, Israel has become an astonishing success story, but also a highly mobile one.
Op-Ed Columnist - The Tel Aviv Cluster - NYTimes.com

And OP ED BY A JEW? PRAISING JEWS AND ISRAEL?!?!?!



whoa... Holy shit! Someone mark this day and observe this RARE, haley's comet-like occasion!


:rofl



good grief.


I'll stick with actual news articles and pass on your OPINION piece, killer. Go drink some blood and ponder why it's hilarious that you'd think an opinion by a jew about jews is about as convincing as you lightspeed leap to talking shit on sand ******* at the slightest whim.


:thup:


:rolleyes:
 
:rofl:


now, we BOTH know that israel would crumble were it not propped up with American tax dollars, little chosen boy. This year alone israel will see more American money than you can even fathom. But hey.. if Warren Buffett says that they are a "major factor"....


:rofl:


:rolleyes:

:clap2:

Virtually all the money we give to that region is to benefit Israel. The money given to Egypt is to benefit Israel. Same for Jordan. Same for Lebanon. Same for Palestine.

:lol::cuckoo:



ps, kikelicious... THIS YEAR israel will be taking as many US handouts as it can get and can stroke out of congress via Aipac.


THESE are the differences between facts like I post and :lol: OPINION EDITORIALS that you post.


:cuckoo:
 
Virtually all the money we give to that region is to benefit Israel. The money given to Egypt is to benefit Israel. Same for Jordan. Same for Lebanon. Same for Palestine.

:lol::cuckoo:



ps, kikelicious... THIS YEAR israel will be taking as many US handouts as it can get and can stroke out of congress via Aipac.


THESE are the differences between facts like I post and :lol: OPINION EDITORIALS that you post.


:cuckoo:

Israel is accepting foreign aid in the form of military grants that are spent with US military contractors. In turn, Israel has become an advanced, successful, prosperous country and a leader in technology, chemicals, pharma and medical devices.

In contrast, the US just cut a $500 million check for the Pestilinians, who cheered and danced on 9/11 and who are failed losers and terrorists.

These contributions are just a few made by Israel to the US...

Since 1967, Israel has given to the Pentagon Soviet military equipment captured in conflicts with Soviet-supported Arab countries, providing important data. Israel gave the US a full squadron of MiG-21s which was called the “Top Gun” squadron and used by the U.S. Air Force and Navy for training purposes.

In 1970, Israel forced the withdrawal of the Syrian army from US-ally Jordan while the U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, helping to prevent the collapse of a pro-American government and the installation of a pro-Soviet regime.

In the 1973 War, Israel defeated Soviet-trained and equipped Egyptian and Syrian armies. Israel shared captured Soviet equipment with the US. Israel emerged the one reliable ally where U.S. troops could land, where U.S. equipment can be pre-positioned and where the U.S. has friendly port facilities, saving the US billions of dollars.

In 1982, Israel destroyed Soviet anti-aircraft systems in Lebanon that were considered impenetrable by American weapons. Israel shared with the US insights from the conflict, estimated to be worth billions of dollars.

Senator Daniel Inouye has stated that Israeli data on the Soviet military has saved the U.S. billions of dollars and that the contribution made by Israeli intelligence to America exceeds information provided by all NATO countries combined.

In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, stalling Saddam Hussein’s nuclear capabilities and allowing the U.S. to engage in conventional warfare with Iraq in 1991 and 2003.

Israel has provided critical analysis of the F16 to General Dynamics that resulted in 600 improvements, including structural enhancements, software changes, increased capability landing gear, radio improvements and avionic modifications.

In the Gulf War, Israel provided the US with key intelligence, air cover for military cargo and had IDF stationed in the Iraqi desert to rescue downed American pilots.

The IDF was the sole military force in the region that could successfully challenge the Iraqi army. That fact, which Saddam Hussein understood, was a deterrent to further Iraqi aggression.

The US military benefited from the use of Israeli-made Have Nap air-launched missiles on its B-52 bombers. The Navy used Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf.

Israel provided mine plows that were used to clear paths for Allied forces through Iraqi minefields.

Mobile bridges flown directly from Israel to Saudi Arabia were used by the U.S. Marine Corps

Israel Aircraft Industries developed conformal fuel tanks that enhanced the range of F15 aircraft used in the Gulf War.

An Israeli-produced targeting system was used to increase the Cobra helicopter's night-fighting capabilities.

Israel manufactured the canister for the highly successful Tomahawk missile.

Night-vision goggles used by U.S. forces were supplied by Israel.

A low-altitude warning system produced and developed in Israel was utilized on Blackhawk helicopters.

Other Israeli equipment provided to U.S. forces included flack vests, gas masks and sandbags.

Israel offered the United States the use of military and hospital facilities. U.S. ships utilized Haifa port shipyard maintenance and support on their way to the Gulf.

General George Keegan, former head of U.S. Air Force Intelligence, has stated that “Israel is worth five CIA’s.” He said that between 1974 and
1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants, but, that in the same timeframe Israel provided the U.S. with $50-$80 billion in intelligence, research and development savings and Soviet weapons systems given to the U.S.

Israel shares with the US important experience in homeland defense and warfare against suicide bombers and car bombs.

In preparation for the Iraq War, American soldiers trained in IDF facilities and Israeli drones flew above the Sunni Triangle and in Afghanistan providing U.S. Marines with critical intelligence.

In Iraq, Israeli advisers have trained US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders.

The IDF sent urban warfare specialists to Fort Bragg in North Carolina, the home of US special forces, and Israeli military consultants have also visited Iraq.

The US Army also travelled to Israel to glean lessons learned from their counterterrorist operations in urban areas. The IDF regularly shared its experience in the West Bank and Gaza with the US armed forces. The Pentagon regularly asked the IDF to debrief on operations similar to those engaged in by US military forces.

An American liaison team had been responsible for coordinating efforts and intelligence between the Pentagon, the IDF, and American forces. Major General Charles Simpson, the chief liaison officer for the U.S. Army, met repeatedly with IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon on this joint project.

Joint air force exercises, such as the Juniper Cobra, had taken place between Israeli and the American Patriot artillery in the Negev and radar units from the U.S. Sixth Fleet. Noble Dina, an anti-submarine warfare exercise, were executed with the combined efforts of the Israel Navy and the Sixth Fleet.

American soldiers were in Israel prior to the Iraq war to work with anti-missile defenses, both the U.S.-made Patriot and the Arrow, developed by both Israel and the U.S.

The U.S. sailed an aircraft carrier, the Harry Truman, into the Mediterranean Sea. The aircraft allowed U.S. planes to reach Iraqi targets by flying over Israeli and Jordanian territory. Israel has permitted the use of its air zones.

Israel has been sharing with the US its experience in combating Palestinian terrorism, which has been helpful in the US's war in Afghanistan. The US military benefits from Israel’s tactics against suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices.

Most of the US military aid to Israel must be spent in the United States, which benefits US military contractors.

In contrast to US commitments to Korea, Japan, Germany and numerous other countries in which the US has over 100 military bases, the US has no military bases in Israel.

Former Secretary of State and NATO forces Commander Alexander Haig has said that he is pro-Israeli because Israel is "the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security"

In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, Israel provided assistance to the relief efforts. An Israeli airlift arrived in Little Rock, Arkansas with an eighty-ton shipment of humanitarian aid, including baby food, diapers, water, ready-to-eat meals, clothes, tents, blankets, mattresses, stretchers, first aid kits, wheelchairs and other medical supplies.

In addition to government aid, Israeli non-profit organizations assisted in the relief efforts. Magen David Adom (Israel's national emergency medical, disaster, ambulance and blood bank service) began the "United Brotherhood Operation," which sent a plane-load of supplies and financial assistance. IsraAid, the coordinating body of Israeli non-profits organizations involved in relief work, sent a delegation of medical personnel, psychologists and experienced search-and-rescue divers.

Five universities in Israel welcomed displaced American students from the affected areas and invited both undergraduate and graduate students to continue their studies in Israel.

When terrorists bombed the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in August 1998, Israel immediately dispatched search and rescue teams to assist in saving the victims trapped under the rubble. The IDF's Home Front Command Rescue Unit was the first delegation to arrive from abroad, and was accompanied by military and civilian doctors, rescue dogs and high-tech rescue equipment. The Israeli team led the rescue operation in Nairobi, Kenya and was able to pull three survivors from the building, perform life-saving operations and provide medical care to the victims of the bombing.
 

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