Zone1 Calls for a "return" to Christianity are counterproductive. What we need to do is chuck the Old Testament

[Carl in Michigan]

For our religion or form of government to play a role in saving us and our civilization, they need to change. Both Christianity and the American democracy have proved inadequate as we presently understand them to protect us.

In order for Christianity to regain its nourishing force, for example, it will be necessary—at the very least—to jettison the Old Testament (along with its primitive, bloodthirsty, tribal deity) and accept that just because something is “written” doesn’t mean that it’s inviolable. There are no magic urningbooks, even if we call them “sacred.”

Odysseus Unsheathed

The civilization we inherited is on the verge of extinction. Can we save it?

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Many COMMUNISTS have tried. They're all dead and the Scriptures remain.
Good luck with your book burning

 

[Carl in Michigan]

For our religion or form of government to play a role in saving us and our civilization, they need to change. Both Christianity and the American democracy have proved inadequate as we presently understand them to protect us.

In order for Christianity to regain its nourishing force, for example, it will be necessary—at the very least—to jettison the Old Testament (along with its primitive, bloodthirsty, tribal deity) and accept that just because something is “written” doesn’t mean that it’s inviolable. There are no magic books, even if we call them “sacred.”

Odysseus Unsheathed

The civilization we inherited is on the verge of extinction. Can we save it?

craignelsen.substack.com

YOU are the problem:

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Let's get rid of not only the OT, but also the NT and ALL other religious text that are outdated and don't represent reality.
Let's emphasize logical critical thinking based on evidence & scientific methodologies with objective verification.

Mao gives you

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Between 1917 and 1987, Jews genocided 66 million Russian Christians

Were these Orthodox Jews?
Or were these ATHEISTS?
Or is this a racial thing with you?

 

[Meriweather]

OK, tell me how I am reading it wrongly. What does it really say?

You may be reading it from your own point of view, and as something you need to critique. Suggestion: Try reading it from God's point of view. Remember, we have always been a stubborn people; how is God pointing towards different way. Instead of a mindset of What is God doing wrong; try the mindset of what God is doing right.

 

[Correll]

Does this mean you support the ongoing genocide inspired by OT foundational myths?

I'm going to assume that you are referring to the current conflict started by HAHAMS.

I have no interest in that conflict.

 

[Correll]

Here, clear-pill yourself.

Hidden Bolshevik Past, Hidden Bolshevik Future

Who is keeping us ignorant of the Bolshevik genocide of 66 million Russian Christians, how they are doing it, and why. And how overcoming that ignorance may dispel the myth of anti-Semitism.

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Just about everything you know about history is wrong.

I'm well aware the commies killed a lot of people.


Your desire to give lefties a pass on that, and instead shift the blame to jews, is deeply immoral.

Lefties DESERVE to be held to account for the results of their beliefs and actions.

 

[ding]

OK, tell me how I am reading it wrongly. What does it really say? If you won't answer, it means you are speaking falsely, you know it, and you don't have the character to own up to it.

What is it with you people and lying?

So first off you have attributed me as the source of that quote which is wrong. So, yeah, you are reading it wrong. But most skinheads are pretty uneducated so it's par for the course. Just like you couldn't understand what I meant when I said, "Discussing theology with militant atheists would be idiotic."

 

[Correll]

they are a threat to the desert religions ...

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better to have hitler and pugs in charge to keep things from getting out of hand.

The 60s freaks were not the ones that stopped hitler. It was MAGA. The 60s freaks were on the commies side.


If you insist on mixing time periods and using labels out of proper time.

 

[hobelim]

Oh, LOL, I see. Taking the plain meaning of the text is the "wrong" way to read the Old Testament.

That's right! If you ever read the story you might have noticed that from the very beginning of Genesis a crafty talking serpent is introduced. That's should have been a dead giveaway that metaphors for human archetypes are being used. That is, if you had the education and common sense that God gave to an 8 year old monkey.

Rather, we should consider the vile filthy genocidal psychopathic parts to be nothing more than colorful figures of speech that mean something else--at your discretion and to be interpreted by you. Is that it?

Well, no. Reality is a constant and reliable constraint on any possible interpretation. When you eliminate interpretations that cannot possibly be the truth what is left must be the truth, what the stories are actually about, but don't take my word for it. Jesus himself, who had drawn everything he made known, everything he taught, from the OT said, "the kingdom of heaven is like hidden treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it, BURIED IT AGAIN.", not to mention the fact that Jesus said,"until now I have been using figures of speech." So in order to comprehend the meaning of the words and subjects of the OT and NT one has to dig deep. THINK. If you look and look and keep on looking you will find it. If you don't look and look, think, dig deep, you never will.

Maybe you despise the Jews and Divine Law because dipshits like you have been judged by God to be vile and loathsome creatures whose 'flesh' defiles and contaminates the mind, according to the divine menu, and all the ignorant deceptive bigoted bullshit that oozes out of your addled nazi head like a foul and smelly pus is the proof.

If I was never born it would still be the truth. You have allowed satan to enter your mind to perpetuate lies. Own it.

BTW, being repulsive is not a superpower however many losers you con. So you don't you worry about being replaced by 'the Jews' If God is God you losers should worry about destroying yourselves and your children

ACHTUNG! A soul is a terrible thing to waste.



Any other questions? Would you like to know what "fire from the sky" is? Casting out demons? Gehenna?

Take you time....

 

[hobelim]

The 60s freaks were not the ones that stopped hitler. It was MAGA. The 60s freaks were on the commies side.

The 60's freaks? MAGA stopped Hitler? And now you decent God fearing Christian family values patriotic American Hitler stoppers support the epitome of a dumb fat orange Hitler wannabe? How fuckin stupid is that?

Haven't you noticed trump, (communist dictator putins meat puppet), kissing every despot and tyrants ass on international TV? And those damn peace loving war hating 60's freaks were on the communists side? Psssst!

YOU ARE.

You fell for the con that trump was going to save democracy from communism (with fascism and putins help). Derp!

ATTENTION! NOW HEAR THIS! THIS IS NOT A DRILL. YOU ARE A TRAITOR! AN ENEMY OF THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF AMERICA - TRUTH, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE, - YOU BRAINWASHED COMMIE PINKO FAG!


I'm sure that Jesus is very impressed. You fascist pig.

I am.

 

[norwegen]

The NT is just the preachy "love everyone" part. No one is getting smote or stoned or anything (well, almost).

On the contrary, Jesus said he would slaughter Jews and cast fire on the earth. Later in that generation, hundreds of thousands of Jews were slaughtered and fire destroyed their legacy.

Read Revelation. Lots of smiting and stoning.

 

[hobelim]

On the contrary, Jesus said he would slaughter Jews.

When Jesus said about when he returned, "as for those enemies of mine, who would not have me for their king, bring them here and slaughter them in my presence." He was not talking about killing anyone, especially Jews.

Damn.

Just like the laws concerning "ritual slaughter" has nothing whatever to do with killing farm animals in a temple.

You repeating this stupid ignorant interpretation has caused great evil that continues to this day where any antisemitic malignant narcissistic tyrant would seem like a possible candidate for the second coming of Christ and millions of innocents have suffered unspeakable cruelty and were murdered and because you perpetuate the same exact lie that made some people think that Hitler was a messiah, their innocent blood is on your hands.

You have to accept the fact that at some point in your life you have been beguiled by a talking serpent and died.

 

[Correll]

The 60's freaks? MAGA stopped Hitler?

Correct. You look at the America that stopped Hitler, and it was not the leftards of today or any ideological ancestor of them, it was Traditional Americans, who today are MAGA.

mixing time periods as this is a shaky business, clearly, but it is worth noting that there is some continuity of populations/cultures and ideas and if you want to look at it that way, then yes, MAGA stopped Hitler and the 60s leftie freaks were aligned with Stalin.

And now you decent God fearing Christian family values patriotic American Hitler stoppers support the epitome of a dumb fat orange Hitler wannabe? How fuckin stupid is that?

It iis not dumb, because Trump is not the stupid shit that you people say he is, but a pretty great president who is doing well by America and the world.

So, there.

Haven't you noticed trump, (communist dictator putins meat puppet), kissing every despot and tyrants ass on international TV?

I've noticed standard diplo speak.

And those damn peace loving war hating 60's freaks were on the communists side? Psssst!

Correct. And still are. Never stopped for a second really.

YOU ARE.

You fell for the con that trump was going to save democracy from communism (with fascism and putins help). Derp!

ATTENTION! NOW HEAR THIS! THIS IS NOT A DRILL. YOU ARE A TRAITOR! AN ENEMY OF THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF AMERICA - TRUTH, LIBERTY, AND JUSTICE, - YOU BRAINWASHED COMMIE PINKO FAG!


I'm sure that Jesus is very impressed. You fascist pig.

I am.

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nonsense and shit talk.

 

[hobelim]

It iis not dumb, because Trump is not the stupid shit that you people say he is, but a pretty great president who is doing well by America and the world.

So, there.

Sure. Covfefe..

 

[Street Juice]

And yet, it was foretold of the 'falling away' from the Church in the last days.........and here we are.

"Last Days" nuts have been saying that since the 15th Century.

The Old Testament is and was the foundation from what became the New Testament. IOW, you can't have one without the other


Old Testament = Law
New Testament = Grace

You can't be given Gods Grace, if you don't have or know the Law that you've broken

OK, does that include the law that if a woman marries and her new husband claims she wasn't a virgin and her parents can prove otherwise, the men of the city have to drag her to her father's doorstep and throw rocks at her until she is dead?

 

[BreezeWood]

The 60s freaks were not the ones that stopped hitler. It was MAGA. The 60s freaks were on the commies side.

the nazi were defeated at stalingrad.

no, maga is not traditional american ...

maga is a cancer -

if anyone reflects the nazi - it's them, maga.

they are no where found in the u s constitution, their desert religions - just the spirit of the heavens.

 

[hobelim]

no, maga is not traditional american ...

maga is a cancer -

if anyone reflects the nazi - it's them, maga.

 

[hobelim]

I've noticed standard diplo speak.

lol. Brilliant!

 

[hobelim]

Read Revelation. Lots of smiting and stoning.

Then you had better brace yourself sweetness! Jesus is coming! Jesus is coming!