Canada and Mexico come to the Table: Two Countries Concede on Tariffs

[TemplarKormac]

Tariffing our goods.

Ever heard of the USMCA, genius?

Guess who signed it into law, and bragged about how superdillyicious it was.

Go ahead. Guess.

Stop playing your sarcastic games, g5.

Yes, I've heard of it. But the tariffs existed before Trump negotiated the USMCA. So there's that.

 

[Captain Caveman]

If a little chat is "all" that had to be done, why didn't Biden do it four years ago?

Because Biden was useless.

 

[g5000]

Stop playing your sarcastic games, g5.

Yes, I've heard of it. But the tariffs existed before Trump negotiated the USMCA. So there's that.

Um...retard?

The tariffs which existed before Trump 1.0 were replaced by the USMCA tariffs.

Is Trump schizophrenic? He's complaining about the very tariffs he negotiated and bragged about!

 

[g5000]

Big tough Canada. They will never succumb!

Folded like a cheap suit. Canada is Trump's bitch.

Wrong.

Trump has you totally hoodwinked. He's very good at it.

 

[g5000]

If a little chat is "all" that had to be done, why didn't Biden do it four years ago?

Because Trump did it six years ago.

He's now complaining about the tariffs in his own treaty!

Positively schizophrenic.

 

[g5000]

Canada earlier today agreed to drop their tariffs on American goods when America does.

Big tough Canada. They will never succumb!

Folded like a cheap suit. Canada is Trump's bitch.

From the OP: Canada earlier today agreed to drop their tariffs on American goods when America does.

Trump has to fold first, dipshit. Trump is Canada's bitch.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Um...retard?

The tariffs which existed before Trump 1.0 were replaced by the USMCA tariffs.

Is Trump schizophrenic? He's complaining about the very tariffs he negotiated and bragged about!

Um no.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/gkLiSpccX6P8iUeTXqoFwjA6z

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump has to fold first, dipshit. Trump is Canada's bitch.

No, you just strive to cast him in a negative light wherever possible. You offer no instructive or constructive critiques. You hurl endless invective.

 

[ThisIsMe]

English motherfucker

Lol, so intense!

 

[ThisIsMe]

Tell that to the US automakers lobby....

Lobbyists in other countries are just not that powerful... Cars in Europe have to be far more pedestrian and cycling safe that in the US (cause they got a lot more of them)...

This is the hardest thing when negotiating with the US... Corporate Lobbyists are constantly pressing congress and senate to write in their favour, ie Corporate favouring over Citizen Favouring....

Read this:

Trump wants Europe to buy more US farm goods. It can’t.

There are insuperable market, phytosanitary and political obstacles — and it could get worse.

www.politico.eu

You will see the difference between EU and US food Standards...

"Europeans might buy American software, movies and weapons, but they aren’t keen on U.S. beef pumped with hormones, chlorine-washed chicken or genetically modified corn. The main reason? Brussels’ precautionary principle — a regulatory approach that requires proof a product is safe before it can be sold. The U.S., by contrast, operates on a risk-based system, where anything not proven harmful is fair game."

you'll not get any argument from me. I've always been against lobbying. I think it should be illegal.

 

[CowboyTed]

Okay. They had existing tariffs on our dairy products, in the hundreds of percent range.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/3uhP4aGUTsVgPVXDATkwYK3fo

Effectively US has never got close to the limit of these tariffs...

Yeah, tell us about their dairy tariff!

Back to the dishes, Sink Worrier.

Trump's Misleading Claim on Canadian Dairy Tariffs - FactCheck.org

To support his plan to increase tariffs, President Donald Trump has repeatedly said that the Canadian government charges U.S. farmers a 250% or 270% tariff on dairy products exported to Canada. That's misleading. There are rates that high on the books, but they would only be charged if U.S...

www.factcheck.org

"To support his plan to increase tariffs, President Donald Trump has repeatedly said that the Canadian government charges U.S. farmers a 250% or 270% tariff on dairy products exported to Canada. That’s misleading. There are rates that high on the books, but they would only be charged if U.S. exports exceed predetermined tariff rate quotas, which the dairy exports don’t come close to meeting. "

This is just an anti dumping measure which is put in a lot of trade agreements... There is one for Canadian Lumber coming the other way... Otherwise if Canada who could end up with a lot of excess lumber could dump on the US market and kill the US lumber industry. Biden did step in to increase Canada's tariff because Canada was coming close to that, they weren't breaking it but US lumber found it very hard to compete...

 

[CowboyTed]

you'll not get any argument from me. I've always been against lobbying. I think it should be illegal.

So US doesn't sell a product EU can buy...

On the reverse, EU sell a lot of specialised cheeses which are popular in US... It is the nature of their agriculture, farms are three times smaller and regions are specialised, this choice has US consumers looking for particular types of cheeses... US could produce these but they find them commercially less profitable than the more mass market cheese.. This is quite general but it is the general trend..

 

[CowboyTed]

Stop playing your sarcastic games, g5.

Yes, I've heard of it. But the tariffs existed before Trump negotiated the USMCA. So there's that.

USMCA was a new agreement...

Trump signed it... He should have insisted that it be taken out...

Trump didn't want them out because both sides want to make sure there is not dumping from either side, Dairy from US and Lumber from Canada... It sense from both sides to have some protection for there own businesses...

 

[debbiedowner]

They lost nothing. Just don't sell and they will regain their value over time.

Yea, they will recover at some point but will they ever catch up with the gains they had before someone that is in their 60's now? Maybe. I don't have one but my kids and three of my grandkids do. My son-in-law always used to bitch during Biden years when his dropped a few bucks. Oh well it will all pan out someday.

 

[playtime]

But donny....but donny....

oh i see - so donny has nothing to do with tariffs on canada & mexico...

got it.

 

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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yea, they will recover at some point but will they ever catch up with the gains they had before someone that is in their 60's now? Maybe. I don't have one but my kids and three of my grandkids do. My son-in-law always used to bitch during Biden years when his dropped a few bucks. Oh well it will all pan out someday.

I lost about $10K thanks to Biden. I had to pull mine when I retired and didn't have a choice to wait.

 

[konradv]

Canada earlier today agreed to drop their tariffs on American goods when America does. While I appreciate the sentiment, America should only accept that with a proviso of snap-back tariffs that are double the original.

Mexico agreed not to impose any additional tariffs, instead choosing to negotiate. Here, the US should demand that Mexico drop all its tariffs on American goods in exchange for America dropping its, with similar snap-back provisos as Canada's.




The take?

While I'm not the biggest fan of Trump, he won here. They caved. However, the tactic he used to begin with was tantamount to being a schoolyard bully. It was extremely unsightly. Short-term disaster, long-term gain, if you could call it that. There are more honorable ways to step on the throats of your competition.

Trump just initiated the largest tax increase in history.

 

[Hum Dinger]

Because Biden was useless.

Sure...Biden was a real disaster!

IDIOT!

 

[Hum Dinger]

So US doesn't sell a product EU can buy...

On the reverse, EU sell a lot of specialised cheeses which are popular in US... It is the nature of their agriculture, farms are three times smaller and regions are specialised, this choice has US consumers looking for particular types of cheeses... US could produce these but they find them commercially less profitable than the more mass market cheese.. This is quite general but it is the general trend..

French and Italian wines!