China Halts All Boeing Deliveries (and More)

[Orangecat]

Which "people" are you referring to?

The ones who say China doesn't pay tariffs when China is suspending deliveries because of tariffs. It seems rather obvious, tbh.

 

[georgephillip]

The ones who say China doesn't pay tariffs when China is suspending deliveries because of tariffs. It seems rather obvious, tbh.

US tariffs are sales taxes applied to Chinese goods imported into the US.
Those sales taxes are largely paid by US consumers.

 

[georgephillip]

I’m currently reading this…

He provides first hand accounts from Spanish invaders on how they treated the native population. It’s one horror after another.

The natives met the Spaniards with friendship, only to be mass murdered, enslaved, or die from Euro diseases. He claims nearly the entire indigenous population of the Caribbean islands was eliminated in a matter of a few decades.

Howard Zinn opened my eyes to American history, and that's why MAGA wants to ban his books from public schools:

https://nativephilanthropy.candid.org/events/columbus-enslaves-the-arawak-and-commits-genocide/

"Columbus and his men round up Arawak men, women, and children and enclose 550 of them in pens and four caravels bound for the slave market of southern Spain during his second voyage to the New World.

"Approximately 200 perish during the passage, and their bodies are cast into the sea.

"After the survivors are sold as slaves in Spain, Columbus later writes: 'Let us in the name of the Holy Trinity go on sending all the slaves that can be sold.'"

 

[scruffy]

US tariffs are sales taxes applied to Chinese goods imported into the US.
Those sales taxes are largely paid by US consumers.

That's the idea, genius.

 

[Correll]

Yet you support the mass murder of children in Gaza TODAY! Obviously, you’re worse than the worst.

Interesting. You seem to be talking without any attempt to defend your previous points.

It is though each post exists in splendid isolation, and you are newborn, each moment, wtih no memory of the past.

 

[Correll]

Imperial Japan also inflicted brutal occupations on BROWN people, yet only white-skinned global terrorism persists today.

White supremacy continues to directly terrorize non-white populations from Gaza to Beirut to Damascus while puppet governments from El Salvador to Africa serve the economic interests of their white masters at the expense of their indigenous populations.

Really.

This nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on racial equality since the mid 60s.

It is not only stupid to deny this, but the act of denial is you pissing all over all the people that supported or even fought for that racial equality.


You are effectively callilng MLK, a loser. And all the people that supported him. Complete losers. Weak ass failures.


And yeah, it's dumb to pretend that US policy, let alone modern european policy is based in w.s. If anything, our government policies on both sides of the atlantic have been very hostile to Whites.

 

[gipper]

Interesting. You seem to be talking without any attempt to defend your previous points.

It is though each post exists in splendid isolation, and you are newborn, each moment, wtih no memory of the past.

And yet you refuse to debate to any of my posts.

 

[georgephillip]

That's the idea, genius.

Do you mean this idea?

Nasdaq Has Lost More than 3,000 Points Since Trump’s First Full Day in Office in 2025; the Pain Has Barely Begun

 

[georgephillip]

This nation has had a bi-partisan consensus on racial equality since the mid 60s.

It is not only stupid to deny this, but the act of denial is you pissing all over all the people that supported or even fought for that racial equality.

Bipartisan consensus on racial equality in the US since the 1960s is oversimplistic, aka MAGA, at best. While the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 passed with bipartisan support, divisions between races in America continue to manifest, reflecting broader societal conflict not easily resolved through mere legislation.
(mearsheimer.ai)

Democrats are likely tainting the voting pool by allowing the undocumented to vote while Republicans continue to practice voter suppression efforts in largely minority districts.

In the end, rich people win and poor people pay.
"..in 2022, for every $100 in wealth held by white households, Black households held only $15."

Black wealth is increasing, but so is the racial wealth gap.

 

[georgephillip]

And yeah, it's dumb to pretend that US policy, let alone modern european policy is based in w.s. If anything, our government policies on both sides of the atlantic have been very hostile to Whites.

Another idiotic lie posted without any evidence

White control of governments on both sides of the Atlantic stems from their economic leverage which comes from centuries of racist colonial looting:

Black wealth is increasing, but so is the racial wealth gap.

"Since 2010, the wealth disparity between Black and white families has persistently expanded. From the very first Survey of Consumer Finances in 1983, the smallest difference between Black and white family wealth was $123,910 in 1992, and has steadily climbed since, peaking in 2022."

 

[Orangecat]

US tariffs are sales taxes applied to Chinese goods imported into the US.
Those sales taxes are largely paid by US consumers.

A tariff isn’t a sales tax. They are applied regardless of whether or not the items are voluntarily bought by US consumers.

 

[gipper]

A tariff isn’t a sales tax. They are applied regardless of whether or not the items are voluntarily bought by US consumers.

While that’s technically true, those buying products subject to a tariff are in effect paying a sales tax.

 

[Orangecat]

While that’s technically true, those buying products subject to a tariff are in effect paying a sales tax.

Voluntarily paying a higher price due to the tariff, yes. Not a sales tax, though, as a sale isn’t required for the government to collect the money.

 

[georgephillip]

A tariff isn’t a sales tax. They are applied regardless of whether or not the items are voluntarily bought by US consumers.

Companies, small and large, that bring foreign goods into the US pay the tax to the government; they may pass some or all of the increased cost on to consumers.

Trump's "genius" 145% tax on Chinese goods would turn the cost of a $10 product into a $24.50 product

Do you see any potential for inflation in that particular example of Trump's economic ignorance?

What are tariffs, how do they work and why is Trump using them?

 

[Orangecat]

Companies, small and large, that bring foreign goods into the US pay the tax to the government; they may pass some or all of the increased cost on to consumers.

Trump's "genius" 145% tax on Chinese goods would turn the cost of a $10 product into a $24.50 product

Do you see any potential for inflation in that particular example of Trump's economic ignorance?

What are tariffs, how do they work and why is Trump using them?

A tariff still isn’t a sales tax. If it was, we wouldn’t have a different word for it.

 

[georgephillip]

While that’s technically true, those buying products subject to a tariff are in effect paying a sales tax.

Tariffs are a potent tool in trade wars, and trade wars are class wars:

Yanis Varoufakis - An Informative View of U.S. vs. China

"(Yanis) Varoufakis argues that trade wars, often framed as conflicts between nations, are fundamentally rooted in class struggles within and across countries.

"He highlights how global trade imbalances—such as the U.S. trade deficit with China—are driven by policies that prioritize corporate profits and suppress wages, exacerbating inequality.

"These imbalances, he contends, fuel economic instability and populist backlash, as seen in events like Brexit and the election of Donald Trump."

 

[georgephillip]

A tariff still isn’t a sales tax. If it was, we wouldn’t have a different word for it.

Like import duty?

 

[Orangecat]

Like import duty?

Sales taxes are collected when an item is sold, not imported. Do you find the distinction difficult to understand?

 

[georgephillip]

Voluntarily paying a higher price due to the tariff, yes. Not a sales tax, though, as a sale isn’t required for the government to collect the money.

The company importing the Chinese good is involved in a sale; there is nothing voluntary about that company's decision to pay the tariff (sales tax) to the government.

 

[Orangecat]

The company importing the Chinese good is involved in a sale; there is nothing voluntary about that company's decision to pay the tariff (sales tax) to the government.

Tariffs are not sales taxes, no matter how desperately you try to spin them as such.