Coldest Winter in 100 Years

[Old Rocks]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

The above stands.

Nothing the flat-earther warmers have stated disputes it...

Look at the UAH MSU graph. Go to the 0.4 line. Follow it across. The temperature does not cross it until 1998. And crosses in again 7 times between 1998 and 2009. That is cooling?

As usual, you cannot even comprehend your own evidence.

 

[Sinatra]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

The above stands.

Nothing the flat-earther warmers have stated disputes it...

Look at the UAH MSU graph. Go to the 0.4 line. Follow it across. The temperature does not cross it until 1998. And crosses in again 7 times between 1998 and 2009. That is cooling?

As usual, you cannot even comprehend your own evidence.

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So the years following 1998 were warmer????

 

[Sinatra]

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What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

The above stands.

Nothing the flat-earther warmers have stated disputes it...

 

[edthecynic]

What is being missed by those reviewing that NCDC graphic is that it entails a comparative time period of 30 years, starting in 1971 when dire warning of an impending Ice Age were being sounded. These warning continued throughout the 1970's as did lower than "normal" temps.

So you have a "norm baseline" that was constructed from a decade of below normal temps, thus we see yet more sleight of hand being performed by the flat-earth global warmers.

Now satellite data is a bit more accurate than the surface temps that are open to manipulations to coordinate a predetermined outcome - aka, "Hide the Decline." (satellite data can be manipulated as well though - so proceed with caution!)

This data only goes back about 30 years though, so its use is relatively short term in overall global temperature comparisons. That being said, the satellite data trends do not show a current crisis in global temps...

1998 is clearly an outlier. Remove that one year of temperature readings from the 30 year satellite record and we see global temps that remain relatively stable.

Man-Made Global Warming is utter bullshit...

The above stands.

Nothing the flat-earther warmers have stated disputes it...

Just a few posts after yours (and before you posted this) someone pointed out you're using a faulty data set. Instead of engaging in debate, you just run around and shout victory.

Not only that, but after Christy at UAH was caught using the opposite sign to correct for Diurnal Satellite Drift, he co-authored a paper where he admits that after his errors were corrected even his UAH data matches the surfact temp data. But deniers never use the corrected data sets.

http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/sap/sap1-1/finalreport/sap1-1-final-execsum.pdf

Previously reported discrepancies between the amount of warming
near the surface and higher in the atmosphere have been used to
challenge the reliability of climate models and the reality of humaninduced
global warming. Specifically, surface data showed substantial
global-average warming, while early versions of satellite and radiosonde
data showed little or no warming above the surface. This significant
discrepancy no longer exists because errors in the satellite and
radiosonde data have been identified and corrected. New data sets
have also been developed that do not show such discrepancies.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

It's cold in Great Britain, therefore, global warming is a lie.

Well, the way it was explained to me is that when there is a lot of ice cover, the white ice reflects the light and heat back into the atmosphere which makes the world seem a little warmer, because the atmosphere is being heated.

With the ice gone, the heat is being absorbed by the dark ocean, which is up to 7 miles thick, which means a temperature increase will take time. Since heat is not being reflected back into the atmosphere, it seems colder, but over time, with the ocean absorbing the heat, the planet heating up will be more apparent. Conservatives just assume you take some kind of temperature indicator outside and "take a temperature". For them, it's just that simple. Everything is "just that simple".

Now for conservatives, considering their lack of interest in anything that involves data or proof, it's no wonder they don't "believe". To them the entire world is a "belief". If you believe it, it's true. Doesn't matter the facts. Look at their foreign policy. Nothing has happened the way they "believed it should have happened. Rather than question their "beliefs", they just assume others are wrong, no matter the evidence. Some describe that as "delusional".

You make assumptions that are not based in fact.

Just because someone feels Global Warming [MMGW] is a hoax it doesn't mean they don't care about the planet. We don't have to believe the same nonsense to show proper concern.

Anybody that cannot look at the evidence and data and see that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger is not intelligent enough, or is so driven by ideology, that their opinions on any matters is suspect.

ABSOLUTE HOGWASH. There is no evidence that warming is a danger at all. In fact you lying asshole, there has been no noticeable warming since 1998. The temperature rise that occurred from approximately 1980 to 1998 STOPPED. So after about 17 years of a warming trend that raised the temperature by about a 1/3 of a degree or so there has been NO WARMING in 11 years. Telling evidence of the theory that , GASP, the earth operates in CYCLES.

Once again for the slow, stupid and misinformed, the Earth only increased its base global temperature by a little over 1 degree from 1900 to 2000, as was PREDICTED would happen in the early 1900's.

And as a further condemnation of the lying assholes that want to sell us this doomsday bullshit they INSISTED from 1980 to present that the SUN had NOTHING to do with the rise in temperature AT ALL. YET INSIST now that the reason no temperature rise has occurred since 1998 is BECAUSE of the sun.

IF the rise was caused by CO2 then EXPLAIN why from 1998 to present as CO2 rose the temperature did NOT.

 

[edthecynic]

You make assumptions that are not based in fact.

Just because someone feels Global Warming [MMGW] is a hoax it doesn't mean they don't care about the planet. We don't have to believe the same nonsense to show proper concern.

Anybody that cannot look at the evidence and data and see that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger is not intelligent enough, or is so driven by ideology, that their opinions on any matters is suspect.

ABSOLUTE HOGWASH. There is no evidence that warming is a danger at all. In fact you lying asshole, there has been no noticeable warming since 1998. The temperature rise that occurred from approximately 1980 to 1998 STOPPED. So after about 17 years of a warming trend that raised the temperature by about a 1/3 of a degree or so there has been NO WARMING in 11 years. Telling evidence of the theory that , GASP, the earth operates in CYCLES.

Once again for the slow, stupid and misinformed, the Earth only increased its base global temperature by a little over 1 degree from 1900 to 2000, as was PREDICTED would happen in the early 1900's.

And as a further condemnation of the lying assholes that want to sell us this doomsday bullshit they INSISTED from 1980 to present that the SUN had NOTHING to do with the rise in temperature AT ALL. YET INSIST now that the reason no temperature rise has occurred since 1998 is BECAUSE of the sun.

IF the rise was caused by CO2 then EXPLAIN why from 1998 to present as CO2 rose the temperature did NOT.

Another mindless boob stupid enough to believe the lies of GOP hate media.

If warming STOPPED after 1998, why was the decade from 1999 to 2008 the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement????????????

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Anybody that cannot look at the evidence and data and see that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger is not intelligent enough, or is so driven by ideology, that their opinions on any matters is suspect.

ABSOLUTE HOGWASH. There is no evidence that warming is a danger at all. In fact you lying asshole, there has been no noticeable warming since 1998. The temperature rise that occurred from approximately 1980 to 1998 STOPPED. So after about 17 years of a warming trend that raised the temperature by about a 1/3 of a degree or so there has been NO WARMING in 11 years. Telling evidence of the theory that , GASP, the earth operates in CYCLES.

Once again for the slow, stupid and misinformed, the Earth only increased its base global temperature by a little over 1 degree from 1900 to 2000, as was PREDICTED would happen in the early 1900's.

And as a further condemnation of the lying assholes that want to sell us this doomsday bullshit they INSISTED from 1980 to present that the SUN had NOTHING to do with the rise in temperature AT ALL. YET INSIST now that the reason no temperature rise has occurred since 1998 is BECAUSE of the sun.

IF the rise was caused by CO2 then EXPLAIN why from 1998 to present as CO2 rose the temperature did NOT.

Another mindless boob stupid enough to believe the lies of GOP hate media.

If warming STOPPED after 1998, why was the decade from 1999 the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement????????????

Are you just naturally STUPID? If one KNOWS that the base temperature has risen over the last 100 years by just over 1 degree, would not that same person understand that NOW temperatures being warmer that the daily temperatures for the average year will, GASP, be warmer then before? I suggest you ask for a refund from what ever school system claimed to have taught you grades 1 through 12.

 

[edthecynic]

ABSOLUTE HOGWASH. There is no evidence that warming is a danger at all. In fact you lying asshole, there has been no noticeable warming since 1998. The temperature rise that occurred from approximately 1980 to 1998 STOPPED. So after about 17 years of a warming trend that raised the temperature by about a 1/3 of a degree or so there has been NO WARMING in 11 years. Telling evidence of the theory that , GASP, the earth operates in CYCLES.

Once again for the slow, stupid and misinformed, the Earth only increased its base global temperature by a little over 1 degree from 1900 to 2000, as was PREDICTED would happen in the early 1900's.

And as a further condemnation of the lying assholes that want to sell us this doomsday bullshit they INSISTED from 1980 to present that the SUN had NOTHING to do with the rise in temperature AT ALL. YET INSIST now that the reason no temperature rise has occurred since 1998 is BECAUSE of the sun.

IF the rise was caused by CO2 then EXPLAIN why from 1998 to present as CO2 rose the temperature did NOT.

Another mindless boob stupid enough to believe the lies of GOP hate media.

If warming STOPPED after 1998, why was the decade from 1999 to 2008 the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement????????????

Are you just naturally STUPID? If one KNOWS that the base temperature has risen over the last 100 years by just over 1 degree, would not that same person understand that NOW temperatures being warmer that the daily temperatures for the average year will, GASP, be warmer then before? I suggest you ask for a refund from what ever school system claimed to have taught you grades 1 through 12.

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

That means the decade from 1999 to 2008 was warmer than the decade from 1989 to 1998, not just the average of the last 100 years.
Get it???

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Another mindless boob stupid enough to believe the lies of GOP hate media.

If warming STOPPED after 1998, why was the decade from 1999 to 2008 the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement????????????

Are you just naturally STUPID? If one KNOWS that the base temperature has risen over the last 100 years by just over 1 degree, would not that same person understand that NOW temperatures being warmer that the daily temperatures for the average year will, GASP, be warmer then before? I suggest you ask for a refund from what ever school system claimed to have taught you grades 1 through 12.

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

That means the decade from 1999 to 2008 was warmer than the decade from 1989 to 1998, not just the average of the last 100 years.
Get it???

Are you still being stupid. IF the temperature raised by 1 degree, then the NEW baseline will NATURALLY be HIGHER with the new BASE LINE. Temperatures were unnaturally cooler in the 70's so not only do we have a 1/3 over all increase from thetotal century for 1980 to 1998 bu when one uses temperatures from the 70's it SEEMS even larger because the cooling that OCCURRED that decade and previous.

Pretty simply concept. IF the temperature was 30 20 years ago and now it is 30.1/3 the AVERAGE temperature and the actual temperature will NORMALLY be higher this year then 20 years ago.

None of the years you keep pointing to have very much higher temperatures then the previous years EXCEPT during the KNOWN cooling periods. Your argument is disingenuous to say the least and if you honestly belief it, it proves you are to stupid for basic math.

 

[edthecynic]

Originally Posted by RetiredGySgt

ABSOLUTE HOGWASH. There is no evidence that warming is a danger at all. In fact you lying asshole, there has been no noticeable warming since 1998. The temperature rise that occurred from approximately 1980 to 1998 STOPPED. So after about 17 years of a warming trend that raised the temperature by about a 1/3 of a degree or so there has been NO WARMING in 11 years.

Are you just naturally STUPID? If one KNOWS that the base temperature has risen over the last 100 years by just over 1 degree, would not that same person understand that NOW temperatures being warmer that the daily temperatures for the average year will, GASP, be warmer then before? I suggest you ask for a refund from what ever school system claimed to have taught you grades 1 through 12.

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

That means the decade from 1999 to 2008 was warmer than the decade from 1989 to 1998, not just the average of the last 100 years.
Get it???

Are you still being stupid. IF the temperature raised by 1 degree, then the NEW baseline will NATURALLY be HIGHER with the new BASE LINE. Temperatures were unnaturally cooler in the 70's so not only do we have a 1/3 over all increase from thetotal century for 1980 to 1998 bu when one uses temperatures from the 70's it SEEMS even larger because the cooling that OCCURRED that decade and previous.

Pretty simply concept. IF the temperature was 30 20 years ago and now it is 30.1/3 the AVERAGE temperature and the actual temperature will NORMALLY be higher this year then 20 years ago.

None of the years you keep pointing to have very much higher temperatures then the previous years EXCEPT during the KNOWN cooling periods. Your argument is disingenuous to say the least and if you honestly belief it, it proves you are to stupid for basic math.

Again, that has nothing to do with the fact that the last 10 years were WARMER than the previous 10 years which would have been impossible if warming stopped 11 years ago.

 

[Sinatra]

You make assumptions that are not based in fact.

Just because someone feels Global Warming [MMGW] is a hoax it doesn't mean they don't care about the planet. We don't have to believe the same nonsense to show proper concern.

Anybody that cannot look at the evidence and data and see that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger is not intelligent enough, or is so driven by ideology, that their opinions on any matters is suspect.

ABSOLUTE HOGWASH. There is no evidence that warming is a danger at all. In fact you lying asshole, there has been no noticeable warming since 1998. The temperature rise that occurred from approximately 1980 to 1998 STOPPED. So after about 17 years of a warming trend that raised the temperature by about a 1/3 of a degree or so there has been NO WARMING in 11 years. Telling evidence of the theory that , GASP, the earth operates in CYCLES.

Once again for the slow, stupid and misinformed, the Earth only increased its base global temperature by a little over 1 degree from 1900 to 2000, as was PREDICTED would happen in the early 1900's.

And as a further condemnation of the lying assholes that want to sell us this doomsday bullshit they INSISTED from 1980 to present that the SUN had NOTHING to do with the rise in temperature AT ALL. YET INSIST now that the reason no temperature rise has occurred since 1998 is BECAUSE of the sun.

IF the rise was caused by CO2 then EXPLAIN why from 1998 to present as CO2 rose the temperature did NOT.

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And it should be noted that the temp increases from roughly 1980-1998 could be seen as a correction of the lower than average temps the preceeded that time period. Or perhaps the lower than average temps following the warming of the 1930s and 1940s was a correction...or perhaps...

You see folks, the temps have risen and fallen and will continue to do so. Recent reports suggest the CO2 concentrations have actually been overestimated - that CO2 itself is a minor player in overall climate, and that this whole thing has been a psuedo-science house of cards from the outset...

 

[Big Fitz]

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

Simple, it's a lie created by Jones, Hansen and Mann.

The Medieval Warm Period was much warmer than we are today, yet this is ignored by Mann, Jones and Hansen because it fucks their desired result to hell and gone. If you want to stick to instruments the 1930's were as warm as well as having the hottest year on record once you ignore the triad of liars you worship so.

And if you say mankind's CO2 output back then far exceeds that of the modern industrialized world, you're an unmitigated liar as well.

 

[mal]

It's cold in Great Britain, therefore, global warming is a lie.

Well, the way it was explained to me is that when there is a lot of ice cover, the white ice reflects the light and heat back into the atmosphere which makes the world seem a little warmer, because the atmosphere is being heated.

With the ice gone, the heat is being absorbed by the dark ocean, which is up to 7 miles thick, which means a temperature increase will take time. Since heat is not being reflected back into the atmosphere, it seems colder, but over time, with the ocean absorbing the heat, the planet heating up will be more apparent. Conservatives just assume you take some kind of temperature indicator outside and "take a temperature". For them, it's just that simple. Everything is "just that simple".

Now for conservatives, considering their lack of interest in anything that involves data or proof, it's no wonder they don't "believe". To them the entire world is a "belief". If you believe it, it's true. Doesn't matter the facts. Look at their foreign policy. Nothing has happened the way they "believed it should have happened. Rather than question their "beliefs", they just assume others are wrong, no matter the evidence. Some describe that as "delusional".

you have no proof, you stupid fuckhead.

peace...

 

[edthecynic]

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

Simple, it's a lie created by Jones, Hansen and Mann.

The Medieval Warm Period was much warmer than we are today, yet this is ignored by Mann, Jones and Hansen because it fucks their desired result to hell and gone. If you want to stick to instruments the 1930's were as warm as well as having the hottest year on record once you ignore the triad of liars you worship so.

As I said, when CON$ are caught lying, they just keep on lying, while accusing everyone else of lying.

The 1930s are not even close to the hottest years of direct instrument measurement.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Bottom line.. only a complete fucktard buys any of this shit anymore. Period.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The ice caps are melting on Mars... I guess it is all the cow farts and vehicles. Geeze Louise, how fucking stupid are these folks?

 

[Big Fitz]

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

Simple, it's a lie created by Jones, Hansen and Mann.

The Medieval Warm Period was much warmer than we are today, yet this is ignored by Mann, Jones and Hansen because it fucks their desired result to hell and gone. If you want to stick to instruments the 1930's were as warm as well as having the hottest year on record once you ignore the triad of liars you worship so.

As I said, when CON$ are caught lying, they just keep on lying, while accusing everyone else of lying.

The 1930s are not even close to the hottest years of direct instrument measurement.

Son, you don't know whether you're shot, fucked, powder-burned or snake bit.

You keep pimping that graph as if it's an proof of something. Imma tell you AGAIN...

IT DOES NOT PROVE MANKIND IS THE CAUSE EVEN IF IT IS TRUE!!!

mmkay???

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

IT DOES NOT PROVE MANKIND IS THE CAUSE EVEN IF IT IS TRUE!!!

Don't waste your time... these folks believe what they want to blieve.. remember, these are the tards that voted for "Hope and Change" only to put a man in office who is owned by the banking industry and labor unions.

 

[mal]

How exactly does that explain how the decade from 1999 to 2008 was the WARMEST in the history of direct instrument measurement if warming stopped 11 years ago????????

Simple, it's a lie created by Jones, Hansen and Mann.

The Medieval Warm Period was much warmer than we are today, yet this is ignored by Mann, Jones and Hansen because it fucks their desired result to hell and gone. If you want to stick to instruments the 1930's were as warm as well as having the hottest year on record once you ignore the triad of liars you worship so.

As I said, when CON$ are caught lying, they just keep on lying, while accusing everyone else of lying.

The 1930s are not even close to the hottest years of direct instrument measurement.

So what was the Technology they were Using in 1880 over the Ocean?... Over the Land?... In 1920?...

Can you Compare it to Today for us?



peace...

 

[Sinatra]

Simple, it's a lie created by Jones, Hansen and Mann.

The Medieval Warm Period was much warmer than we are today, yet this is ignored by Mann, Jones and Hansen because it fucks their desired result to hell and gone. If you want to stick to instruments the 1930's were as warm as well as having the hottest year on record once you ignore the triad of liars you worship so.

As I said, when CON$ are caught lying, they just keep on lying, while accusing everyone else of lying.

The 1930s are not even close to the hottest years of direct instrument measurement.

So what was the Technology they were Using in 1880 over the Ocean?... Over the Land?... In 1920?...

Can you Compare it to Today for us?



peace...

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Yes indeed! So easy to manipulate those #s because they are so often "estimates".

And when we ask for the raw data well guess what - it's been thrown away!!!!