Coleman beats Franken for Senate

[Modbert]

Just a question:

Where was all this right wing uproar for "fair counting" of all the ballots back during the 2000 election?

I do believe that they stopped the recount mid-way through when Al Gore was still leading.

 

[Harry Dresden]

more proof solid that ignorance is indeed bliss.

im making more now than i was 8 years ago,and i am just a working stiff.....

 

[FistyTheBadger]

Just a question:

Where was all this right wing uproar for "fair counting" of all the ballots back during the 2000 election?

I do believe that they stopped the recount mid-way through when Al Gore was still leading.

I do not believe that to be the truth.

 

[Modbert]

I do not believe that to be the truth.

Bush Propaganda Machine Distorts Miami-Dade Recount Story

Because the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the recount, Americans still do not know who really won Florida. But we at Democrats.com have been carefully tracking the partial results reported by news organizations throughout Florida. We even hired a team of our own to count the votes in Gadsden County.

As of today, Gore leads Bush in Florida by 1,017. This tally includes recounts conducted by the Miami Herald, the Palm Beach Post, the Orlando Sentinel, the Tampa Tribune, the Naples Daily News, and Democrats.com. It includes a gain of 682 votes for Gore in Palm Beach - which was more than enough to erase the 537 Bush lead certified by Katherine Harris. It also includes unexpected gains for Gore in Republican counties like Lake (130) Hillsborough (120), and Gadsden (40).

There is the truth. Can you handle it?

Besides, if Bush was in the lead and was confident that Gore wouldn't overtake him then why try to stop the recount?

 

[FistyTheBadger]

Bush Propaganda Machine Distorts Miami-Dade Recount Story



There is the truth. Can you handle it?

Besides, if Bush was in the lead and was confident that Gore wouldn't overtake him then why try to stop the recount?

Nope.

 

[Agnapostate]

That's probably the best answer you'll get from him, sadly.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Senate recount: Franken leads but margin narrows

The Senate recount shows no sign of being settled soon.

By PAT DOYLE, Star Tribune
Last update: December 22, 2008 - 10:24 PM

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

118 illegal non votes confirmed for Franken is an example of the bias and idiocy of this supposed recount.

illegal? are we getting a bit dramatic here???

 

[DiveCon]

Bush Propaganda Machine Distorts Miami-Dade Recount Story



There is the truth. Can you handle it?

Besides, if Bush was in the lead and was confident that Gore wouldn't overtake him then why try to stop the recount?

from democrats.com?


i suppose if i posted something from GOP.com you would accept that as the gospel truth

yeah, sure

 

[Agnapostate]

Hmmm...what essentially amounts to an ad hominem attack against the operators of the website without actually addressing the points made...

 

[DiveCon]

Hmmm...what essentially amounts to an ad hominem attack against the operators of the website without actually addressing the points made...

again, the source is biased
even YOU should be able to understand that
as for refuting it, the NY Times has already done so, YEARS ago
its total bullshit to claim AlGore won in FL

 

[Alpha1]

Bush Propaganda Machine Distorts Miami-Dade Recount Story



There is the truth. Can you handle it?

Besides, if Bush was in the lead and was confident that Gore wouldn't overtake him then why try to stop the recount?

But we at Democrats.com have been carefully tracking the partial results reported by news organizations throughout Florida. We even hired a team of our own to count the votes in Gadsden County.

How pathetic....why not hire a team in every county..Gore could be ahead by 5,000,000.....?????
You lost...get over it....and the law stopped you this time, from stealing the election like the Dims have done for decades in other states...

 

[Agnapostate]

again, the source is biased
even YOU should be able to understand that
as for refuting it, the NY Times has already done so, YEARS ago
its total bullshit to claim AlGore won in FL

The Old York Times? (Michael Savage reference.)

Must be a LIBERAL LIE!

 

[DiveCon]

The Old York Times? (Michael Savage reference.)

Must be a LIBERAL LIE!

well, they are liberal and if even they couldnt come up with a way to make it look like AlGore won FL, dont you think there wasnt a way for it to be?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

illegal? are we getting a bit dramatic here???

The Court awarded Franken 118 votes with NO paper trail. They ruled because a tally sheet had them the night of the election, even though they could not be found to RECOUNT that he would be awarded those 118 non existant votes. Pretty much defeats the entire concept of a recount, now don't you think?

You know, a recount to count and verify all the votes were ACTUALLY cast.

 

[Care4all]

The Court awarded Franken 118 votes with NO paper trail. They ruled because a tally sheet had them the night of the election, even though they could not be found to RECOUNT that he would be awarded those 118 non existant votes. Pretty much defeats the entire concept of a recount, now don't you think?

You know, a recount to count and verify all the votes were ACTUALLY cast.

Can you PLEASE provide a link that speaks about these 118 votes that you say just materialized?

I did a search on ''118 votes al franken'' and NOTHING comes up but posts on usmessage board.

Are you just passing along some UNTRUTH that someone told you... or do you have a link that talks about these 118 votes being given to Franken and the circumstance behind it?

Care

 

[sealybobo]

better a peach than a nitwit.

But why did the liberal media take it easy on Bush?

Here, let me post the questions again so you can answer them:

Please tell me about all the scandals bush was dealing with from Jan 21st 2000 to 9-10-01. Who was attacking him? Was it guys like Bob Barr & Ken Starr? Please tell me the key players in this plot to take down Bush. Give me examples of how the media was unfair to Bush. Did they ever once call for impeachment? Are their books written about it like their are about how the GOP went after the Clinton's for 8 years? I can't wait to read them. Where are they? In the fiction section? That's because they don't exist.

 

[sealybobo]

Can you PLEASE provide a link that speaks about these 118 votes that you say just materialized?

I did a search on ''118 votes al franken'' and NOTHING comes up but posts on usmessage board.

Are you just passing along some UNTRUTH that someone told you... or do you have a link that talks about these 118 votes being given to Franken and the circumstance behind it?

Care

If anyone has the power to cheat, its that Norm Coleman guy. He's the incumbent.

Just like Jeb ran Florida when Bush stole the state and Ken Blackwell ran Ohio in 2004 and he too was a Bushie.

 

[del]

But why did the liberal media take it easy on Bush?

Here, let me post the questions again so you can answer them:

Please tell me about all the scandals bush was dealing with from Jan 21st 2000 to 9-10-01. Who was attacking him? Was it guys like Bob Barr & Ken Starr? Please tell me the key players in this plot to take down Bush. Give me examples of how the media was unfair to Bush. Did they ever once call for impeachment? Are their books written about it like their are about how the GOP went after the Clinton's for 8 years? I can't wait to read them. Where are they? In the fiction section? That's because they don't exist.

as i said, better a peach than a nitwit.

 

[sealybobo]

as i said, better a peach than a nitwit.

Just the opposite is true. In the period after September 11, the servility of the U.S. media reached an even higher level than usual. Cable news stations competed to come up with the most patriotic graphics. Journalists exploited the stories of tragedy and loss from 9/11 to contribute to the atmosphere of war frenzy. And scores of know-nothing "terrorism experts" were invited to spin wild tales about everything from al-Qaeda and "dirty bombs" to Iraq and anthrax.

No voice of opposition to the war was allowed to clash with the patriotic chorus. According to an analysis of news coverage by the Project for Excellence in Journalism, "the press heavily favored pro-administration and official U.S. viewpoints--as high as 71 percent early on…[W]hat might be considered criticism remained minimal--below 10 percent."

Since September 11, the media have shifted a bit to the right on this spectrum, becoming no more than mouthpieces for the Bush administration. It has taken half a year for some stories that appeared in European newspapers documenting the darker side of the U.S. war drive to get mentioned in the American press.

THE MAINSTREAM media is produced for profit, just like any commodity under capitalism. The news departments at CBS, NBC and ABC are subsidiaries of giant megacorporations like Viacom, General Electric and Disney, which demand that the news make money, like any other product they control.

Obviously, the corporate media have a basic interest in preserving the system. This doesn't mean that news outlets necessarily declare their solidarity with the ruling class openly. There are other ways of making sure that the media reflect the conventional wisdom of the ruling class.

This is the product of a media that is biased toward the status quo--relying on "official" sources for their version of the news and excluding anything outside the mainstream.

Goldberg and the other right-wing windbags who claim that the media are biased are wasting our time. If mainstream news outlets do lean in one political direction or another, this is only within an extremely narrow range of acceptable ruling-class opinion. Voices from outside the mainstream are ignored.

Those who want to understand the corporate media's true bias should read Robert McChesney's Rich Media, Poor Democracy or Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent. Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting provides a consistent critique at Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting.

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