Compared to capitalism, what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

[debbiedowner]

Of course the cost of medical care was low 50 or 60 years ago because effective treatments for most serious diseases did not even exist then.

While what you claim is false, it is also irrelevant. If you have an ear infection and need antibiotics, it will cost you $400 to $500 for an office visit. Then whatever the prescription cost is.

Basic, routine treatment is out of reach to a consumer, because government and employers pay into massive "health care plans" that are designed to ensure that health care is not available to consumers. There is no market. People think the copay that comes out of their pocket is the cost, but it isn't.

There is no connection between the cost of medical care and the value of services provided, which results in the flat out rape of consumers by the massive medical providers.

In 1960 the treatment for a heart attack was almost nothing compared to today. You rested in a hospital were given a few medication, were sent home with some nitroglycerin pills, and instructed to rest which meant take it easy while waiting for your next heart attack. There were no MRIs or other tools to see into the heart or arteries. There were no heart lung machines to make open heart surgery safe. And of course there were no artificial hearts, nor were their heart transplants, angioplasty for removing blockages, or effective cholesterol drugs. The story is much the same with other big ticket diseases such as cancer.

You've convinced me that catastrophic insurance is needed, yet 98% of medical care has nothing to do with catastrophic illness. Oh, and the silver plan Obamacare patient would be lucky to get the nitroglycerin. More likely they would be charged $1,000 for and aspirin and sent home to die.

Yep, medical cost were really low in those days. A few trips to the doctor to monitor the progression of the disease, pain killers, and waiting at home to die really saved on medical cost.

The first heart transplant was in 1971. Your claims that modern medicine began with Obama and socialized medicine is, shall we say "suspect."

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Sounds like a temporary plan or some off the wall indemnity plan and neither are subject to the ACA. It certainly is not a compliant plan with the law.

 

[danielpalos]

free full body social massage for women with a Bad attitude!

 

[Ambivalent1]

While what you claim is false, it is also irrelevant. If you have an ear infection and need antibiotics, it will cost you $400 to $500 for an office visit. Then whatever the prescription cost is.

Basic, routine treatment is out of reach to a consumer, because government and employers pay into massive "health care plans" that are designed to ensure that health care is not available to consumers. There is no market. People think the copay that comes out of their pocket is the cost, but it isn't.

There is no connection between the cost of medical care and the value of services provided, which results in the flat out rape of consumers by the massive medical providers.

You've convinced me that catastrophic insurance is needed, yet 98% of medical care has nothing to do with catastrophic illness. Oh, and the silver plan Obamacare patient would be lucky to get the nitroglycerin. More likely they would be charged $1,000 for and aspirin and sent home to die.

The first heart transplant was in 1971. Your claims that modern medicine began with Obama and socialized medicine is, shall we say "suspect."

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

I never said any of that so you once again are an abject liar.

francoHFW

Busted again for lying.

 

[Rigby5]

Of course the cost of medical care was low 50 or 60 years ago because effective treatments for most serious diseases did not even exist then.

While what you claim is false, it is also irrelevant. If you have an ear infection and need antibiotics, it will cost you $400 to $500 for an office visit. Then whatever the prescription cost is.

Basic, routine treatment is out of reach to a consumer, because government and employers pay into massive "health care plans" that are designed to ensure that health care is not available to consumers. There is no market. People think the copay that comes out of their pocket is the cost, but it isn't.

There is no connection between the cost of medical care and the value of services provided, which results in the flat out rape of consumers by the massive medical providers.

In 1960 the treatment for a heart attack was almost nothing compared to today. You rested in a hospital were given a few medication, were sent home with some nitroglycerin pills, and instructed to rest which meant take it easy while waiting for your next heart attack. There were no MRIs or other tools to see into the heart or arteries. There were no heart lung machines to make open heart surgery safe. And of course there were no artificial hearts, nor were their heart transplants, angioplasty for removing blockages, or effective cholesterol drugs. The story is much the same with other big ticket diseases such as cancer.

You've convinced me that catastrophic insurance is needed, yet 98% of medical care has nothing to do with catastrophic illness. Oh, and the silver plan Obamacare patient would be lucky to get the nitroglycerin. More likely they would be charged $1,000 for and aspirin and sent home to die.

Yep, medical cost were really low in those days. A few trips to the doctor to monitor the progression of the disease, pain killers, and waiting at home to die really saved on medical cost.

The first heart transplant was in 1971. Your claims that modern medicine began with Obama and socialized medicine is, shall we say "suspect."

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

The 3 ACA plans, gold, silver, and bronze, cost more like $300, $500, or $800 per month.
The only way you can pay only $110 is if you get a poverty subsidy.
And while there is a $7,250 out of pocket limits, that may not include the deductible or all costs.

{...
Out-of-pocket maximums only apply to covered essential benefits. So if your plan doesn’t cover a service, or the service isn’t an essential benefit it may not count toward your maximum.

Out-of-pocket maximums should not be confused with deductibles (the amount you pay out-of-pocket before coinsurance kicks in). That being said, on some high deductible health plans like catastrophic coverage your maximum will be the same as your deductible.
...}
Out-of-Pocket Maximum: Everything You Need to Know

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

what come up some times
how can lefttards be green when socialists have had some of the WORSt environmental practices around...

oh that right they're just playing defenders of the earth to empty your wallets and curtail your freedom of choice NEVERMIND
dont worry you'' be happy with thier choices
how those paper straws working out ?

the former soviets and eastern bloc ALONE LOL holy shit they made us look like saints

 

[NoVote]

what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

Communism is not for me or America, but, let's tell the truth, OK, A rabid communist country was first into space, with a dog and a man. And slice it any way you like it, but another rabid communist country has governed more or less fairly, more than 1 billion people, housed, fed and clothed them. India has about the same numbers, but you can't say the individual has done as well. I know a fair number of people that have been to China. They tell me the people don't look downtrodden or oppressed Just saying.

As far as Manufactured. You got to be stupid our just unable to think. The chinese have manufactured almost everything used in America for the last 30 years. They have put men in space and circled the moon. WTF, wake up.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

what has socialism and communism ever produced or manufactured?

Communism is not for me or America, but, let's tell the truth, OK, A rabid communist country was first into space, with a dog and a man. And slice it any way you like it, but another rabid communist country has governed more or less fairly, more than 1 billion people, housed, fed and clothed them. India has about the same numbers, but you can't say the individual has done as well. I know a fair number of people that have been to China. They tell me the people don't look downtrodden or oppressed Just saying.

As far as Manufactured. You got to be stupid our just unable to think. The chinese have manufactured almost everything used in America for the last 30 years. They have put men in space and circled the moon. WTF, wake up.

i used to go to china ....and fall river who cares
chinese have giant Econimic problems and sore spots of their own they're not exactly a shining star to follow .


hows your social credit score BTW
the organ harvest bus goes honk honk

I dealt with a company in china that had 60,000 employees
they made farm tractors to greige goods
and when i got there in the 90's i was greeted by...lets say higher management
half of them were still in thier Army uniforms.....they weren't grunts

I shit ya not

 

[francoHFW]

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

I never said any of that so you once again are an abject liar.

francoHFW

Busted again for lying.

I can't tell who said it flopper or you up above duh. I don't think anybody is lying, that's what you call a mistake super duper.

 

[francoHFW]

While what you claim is false, it is also irrelevant. If you have an ear infection and need antibiotics, it will cost you $400 to $500 for an office visit. Then whatever the prescription cost is.

Basic, routine treatment is out of reach to a consumer, because government and employers pay into massive "health care plans" that are designed to ensure that health care is not available to consumers. There is no market. People think the copay that comes out of their pocket is the cost, but it isn't.

There is no connection between the cost of medical care and the value of services provided, which results in the flat out rape of consumers by the massive medical providers.

You've convinced me that catastrophic insurance is needed, yet 98% of medical care has nothing to do with catastrophic illness. Oh, and the silver plan Obamacare patient would be lucky to get the nitroglycerin. More likely they would be charged $1,000 for and aspirin and sent home to die.

The first heart transplant was in 1971. Your claims that modern medicine began with Obama and socialized medicine is, shall we say "suspect."

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

The 3 ACA plans, gold, silver, and bronze, cost more like $300, $500, or $800 per month.
The only way you can pay only $110 is if you get a poverty subsidy.
And while there is a $7,250 out of pocket limits, that may not include the deductible or all costs.

{...
Out-of-pocket maximums only apply to covered essential benefits. So if your plan doesn’t cover a service, or the service isn’t an essential benefit it may not count toward your maximum.

Out-of-pocket maximums should not be confused with deductibles (the amount you pay out-of-pocket before coinsurance kicks in). That being said, on some high deductible health plans like catastrophic coverage your maximum will be the same as your deductible.
...}
Out-of-Pocket Maximum: Everything You Need to Know

Thank you. Pelosi was right.

 

[danielpalos]

what is Capitalism willing to do for women, for free.

 

[francoHFW]

While what you claim is false, it is also irrelevant. If you have an ear infection and need antibiotics, it will cost you $400 to $500 for an office visit. Then whatever the prescription cost is.

Basic, routine treatment is out of reach to a consumer, because government and employers pay into massive "health care plans" that are designed to ensure that health care is not available to consumers. There is no market. People think the copay that comes out of their pocket is the cost, but it isn't.

There is no connection between the cost of medical care and the value of services provided, which results in the flat out rape of consumers by the massive medical providers.

You've convinced me that catastrophic insurance is needed, yet 98% of medical care has nothing to do with catastrophic illness. Oh, and the silver plan Obamacare patient would be lucky to get the nitroglycerin. More likely they would be charged $1,000 for and aspirin and sent home to die.

The first heart transplant was in 1971. Your claims that modern medicine began with Obama and socialized medicine is, shall we say "suspect."

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

The 3 ACA plans, gold, silver, and bronze, cost more like $300, $500, or $800 per month.
The only way you can pay only $110 is if you get a poverty subsidy.
And while there is a $7,250 out of pocket limits, that may not include the deductible or all costs.

{...
Out-of-pocket maximums only apply to covered essential benefits. So if your plan doesn’t cover a service, or the service isn’t an essential benefit it may not count toward your maximum.

Out-of-pocket maximums should not be confused with deductibles (the amount you pay out-of-pocket before coinsurance kicks in). That being said, on some high deductible health plans like catastrophic coverage your maximum will be the same as your deductible.
...}
Out-of-Pocket Maximum: Everything You Need to Know

And now you know how ridiculously expensive healthcare is this country. We have to go after the cost. Unless you want to go back to the GOP scam cut you off plans....

 

[danielpalos]

Government is socialism and creates wealth by merely existing and ensuring Order over Chaos.

 

[rightwinger]

Communist Russia was ahead of us in the space race for 10 years

Sputnik
First man in space
First woman in space
First spacewalk
First landing on moon

 

[Uncensored2008]

Communist Russia was ahead of us in the space race for 10 years

Sputnik
First man in space
First woman in space
First spacewalk
First landing on moon

DERP

Crashing a probe is not "landing on the moon," retard.

You've been corrected on this lie before.

 

[francoHFW]

While what you claim is false, it is also irrelevant. If you have an ear infection and need antibiotics, it will cost you $400 to $500 for an office visit. Then whatever the prescription cost is.

Basic, routine treatment is out of reach to a consumer, because government and employers pay into massive "health care plans" that are designed to ensure that health care is not available to consumers. There is no market. People think the copay that comes out of their pocket is the cost, but it isn't.

There is no connection between the cost of medical care and the value of services provided, which results in the flat out rape of consumers by the massive medical providers.

You've convinced me that catastrophic insurance is needed, yet 98% of medical care has nothing to do with catastrophic illness. Oh, and the silver plan Obamacare patient would be lucky to get the nitroglycerin. More likely they would be charged $1,000 for and aspirin and sent home to die.

The first heart transplant was in 1971. Your claims that modern medicine began with Obama and socialized medicine is, shall we say "suspect."

Do you actually know what doctor's bill. Last year, my wife and I made over 75 trips to doctors, hospitals, or other healthcare providers. There was never a bill for as much as $500 for a 20 min office visit which is just about how long you would spend with an ENT to get a prescription. I just saw a claim for my wife's 35 min office visit with her pulmonolgist. The billing amount was $252. The insurer paid 88.93 and I paid $22.37 for a total of $111.30. Had she gone to her GP, the costs would have been significantly less. How about not grossly exaggerating. It doesn't help your claim.

The actually billing for an aspirin or Tylenol in a the hospital would be about $35. I saw it on a claim in Dec. The real cost is not the pill. It's the personnel cost. The nurse whose cost to the hospital is about $60/hr has to check the patient's chart and probably check with a doctor who cost the hospital $100/hr. If the nurse doesn't have the pills, she has to be order it from the pharmacy like all medications and someone has to delivery it. To that cost the hospital has to add their overhead. However, neither the insurance company nor the patient pays for it directly. It's folded into overhead of the hospital which is included in the cost of the room.

Catastrophic health insurance is a great idea for people that are in good health and can actually afford to pay the deductible. Premium are actually affordable. My son in Florida is single and has a high deductible plan. It think the deductible is about $25,000 and he pays about $110/mo.

A high deductible plan or any health insurance which has contracted rates with providers (a network) is a huge benefit even if you have not met your deductible. When you are in the deductible phase, the healthcare provider submits a claim to your insurance company for the contracted amount for the service which is what you pay. This can save 25% to 50% or more of the provider's bill. When you're billed you will be billed at the contracted amount, the amount the provider would receive from the insurance company and the patient's copay or coinsurance.

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

The 3 ACA plans, gold, silver, and bronze, cost more like $300, $500, or $800 per month.
The only way you can pay only $110 is if you get a poverty subsidy.
And while there is a $7,250 out of pocket limits, that may not include the deductible or all costs.

{...
Out-of-pocket maximums only apply to covered essential benefits. So if your plan doesn’t cover a service, or the service isn’t an essential benefit it may not count toward your maximum.

Out-of-pocket maximums should not be confused with deductibles (the amount you pay out-of-pocket before coinsurance kicks in). That being said, on some high deductible health plans like catastrophic coverage your maximum will be the same as your deductible.
...}
Out-of-Pocket Maximum: Everything You Need to Know

It is actually up to a 130% of poverty line, so cut the crap with the poverty subsidy. Up to $88,000 for a family of four.

 

[francoHFW]

Compared to Savage capitalism, socialism, as defined nowadays everywhere but cold war dinosaur America, has given us the highest and final type of society. Well regulated fair capitalism with a good safety net. And no socialism is not communism, brainwashed functional morons. "We are all socialists now!"--Finland prime minister when ObamaCare passed.

 

[rightwinger]

Communist Russia was ahead of us in the space race for 10 years

Sputnik
First man in space
First woman in space
First spacewalk
First landing on moon

DERP

Crashing a probe is not "landing on the moon," retard.

You've been corrected on this lie before.

They made several landings
They “crashed a probe” on the moon in 1959 before we had even put a man in space

 

[Ambivalent1]

$25,000? What happened to aca's out-of-pocket limit?

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

I never said any of that so you once again are an abject liar.

francoHFW

Busted again for lying.

I can't tell who said it flopper or you up above duh. I don't think anybody is lying, that's what you call a mistake super duper.

You lied, sorry.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Communist Russia was ahead of us in the space race for 10 years

Sputnik
First man in space
First woman in space
First spacewalk
First landing on moon

DERP

Crashing a probe is not "landing on the moon," retard.

You've been corrected on this lie before.

They made several landings
They “crashed a probe” on the moon in 1959 before we had even put a man in space

They never successfully landed on the moon.

Inside the Soviets' Secret Failed Moon Program

 

[Uncensored2008]

Include the Premiums dumbass.

You said he pays $110 a month that's 1300 a year and the out-of-pocket limits is about 7,000 I believe. So you are full of s***.

I never said any of that so you once again are an abject liar.

francoHFW

Busted again for lying.

I can't tell who said it flopper or you up above duh. I don't think anybody is lying, that's what you call a mistake super duper.

You lied, sorry.

Don't be sorry, fascist franco lies all the time...