Could fascism have arisen in the USA?

[TNHarley]

 

[rupol2000]

USA became much more fascist after WWll

Only if you consider that communism is fascism. America was communist after the war, before McCarthy and Eisenhower came along.

 

[rupol2000]

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Fucking cretin, I wasted my time on you

 

[TNHarley]

Fucking cretin, I wasted my time on you

Sure, be mad at me because you are ignorant as fuck

 

[AMart]

Only if you consider that communism is fascism. America was communist after the war, before McCarthy and Eisenhower came along.

How so? What companies did government confiscate? People did not own real estate? Of course they did.

 

[rupol2000]

How so? What companies did government confiscate? People did not own real estate? Of course they did.

There, the case was not limited to confiscations. Roosevelt was the whore of Stalin and Churchill, he redid all the legislation, it was almost a Stalinist regime

 

[rupol2000]

 

[rupol2000]

Whatever it was, whether it is connected with National Socialism or not, one thing is certain: this symbolism came to Europe from America. Time coincides, and directly precedes.

This is a blank spot in history.

 

[Pellinore]

The swastika is an ancient symbol that rose independently in several different parts of the world, most notably in South Asia and North America, long before a version of it was adopted by the Nazi party. Its appearance says nothing about the rise of nationalism, fascism, or the Nazi party.

Fascism is nationalism taken to the lethal extreme. It is brutal and authoritarian, but it is more than just brutal authoritarianism; it believes that its chosen people are superior to all others, and that party reigns supreme. It values war, tradition, xenophobia, militantism, corporatism, and machismo. It appeals to a specific segment of the population, namely conservatives who feel betrayed by liberal policies that they see as counter to their nation's former glory.

The Nazis were fascists. They called themselves 'national socialists' to appeal to potential recruits, but they didn't adhere to socialist policies, at all. Nazis want to set themselves at the top of a hierarchy, and socialism wanted (and continues to want) a classless society. Total opposites.

There was a major American fascist movement in the 30s called the German-American Bund. It used images of George Washington to push a pro-Nazi agenda and drew tens of thousands to its rallies. Fascism adapts itself to the culture it is trying to conquer, but it needs an exploitable cultural wound and a pissed-off but convincible piece of the population to sink its fangs into, and it lost that handhold because of the war, so it fizzled quickly.

Fascism is very much a threat to modern democracy, both in America and across the globe. The Constitution makes us stronger but not immune. Hungary was a stable, Western democracy but it is now in the process of being taken over by neo-fascist Viktor Orban. A similar movement is gaining steam in Poland. Fascism is tailor-made to take advantage of democratic equality to build power; Hitler, after all, was appointed to Chancellor by a democratically-elected President by virtue of his party's strength in the Reichstag.

 

[rupol2000]

The swastika is an ancient symbol that rose independently in several different parts of the world, most notably in South Asia and North America, long before a version of it was adopted by the Nazi party. Its appearance says nothing about the rise of nationalism, fascism, or the Nazi party.

it's irrelevant

Fascism is nationalism taken to the lethal extreme.

not

 

[rupol2000]

There was a major American fascist movement in the 30s called the German-American Bund. It used images of George Washington to push a pro-Nazi agenda and drew tens of thousands to its rallies. Fascism adapts itself to the culture it is trying to conquer, but it needs an exploitable cultural wound and a pissed-off but convincible piece of the population to sink its fangs into, and it lost that handhold because of the war, so it fizzled quickly.

we are talking about the period 1900-1920s