Could This Be Number 42????

[Cardinal Carminative]

Damn it's cold. Could use some of that global warming right about now.

This is how one can tell a poster that has no experience with data.

Data is always noisy.

It's a relatively simple topic, but if one has not done much with data like fit a line or any sort of analysis it is hard to accept.

So when it's cold it doesn't mean that global warming isn't real.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Feynman also said, but I can't find the actual quote...

If you can't explain something to a lay person, you don't understand it.

This is why graduate student teaching is such a boon to most scientists. A lot of scientists and engineers are simply not wired to "teach", but if you are forced to you learn to develop those skills.

Chief among them is turning your knowledge into something you can pass along so that others get it.

It's a lot harder than it looks.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Better than that.....I love posting my alma mater's fight song: best in the nation:

Ewww, you went to Columbia? I worked there. What did you do your degree in?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ewww, you went to Columbia? I worked there. What did you do your degree in?

Don't adress me, low-life: you were given three chances to show your mettle ......you proved gutless.


Now slink back into the primordial ooze where you belong.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Don't adress me, low-life: you were given three chances to show your mettle ......you proved gutless.


Now slink back into the primordial ooze where you belong.

I can "adress" you, subliterate. It's "Address" you "Ivy League" moron.

(I know you didn't actually go to Columbia...no one is fooled)

 

[ding]

^^^ textbook example of the dunning effect.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

^^^ textbook example of the dunning effect.

^^^^thinks address is spelled with one "d"

 

[Lastamender]

Only a hateful screeching fool will fail to acknowledge when the earth's hottest years occurred.

Warming Winter Olympics

Climate Central bridges the scientific community and the public, providing clear information to help people make sound decisions about the climate.

www.climatecentral.org

Probably because there is no way of really knowing when that was.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Probably because there is no way of really knowing when that was.

Nor does it really matter.

Climate change is a game of "CHANGE", not just magnitude of change. It's not like we think there's a perfect climate for the earth, there isn't. But OUR SOCIETY has developed over the last 14,000 years or so in a relatively stable suite of climate conditions. When that changes it means we are threatened.

EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET AS HOT AS IT'S EVER BEEN ON EARTH. In fact it probably won't! But it WILL negatively impact us and our economies and societies.

Couple that with our KNOWN ability to decimate entire ecosystems and you see a bigger problem.

EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET AS HOT AS IT'S EVER BEEN ON EARTH.

 

[Lastamender]

Nor does it really matter.

Climate change is a game of "CHANGE", not just magnitude of change. It's not like we think there's a perfect climate for the earth, there isn't. But OUR SOCIETY has developed over the last 14,000 years or so in a relatively stable suite of climate conditions. When that changes it means we are threatened.

EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET AS HOT AS IT'S EVER BEEN ON EARTH. In fact it probably won't! But it WILL negatively impact us and our economies and societies.

Couple that with our KNOWN ability to decimate entire ecosystems and you see a bigger problem.

EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET AS HOT AS IT'S EVER BEEN ON EARTH.

The reason climate change impacts our society and economy is years of propaganda and fear mongering.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

The reason climate change impacts our society and economy is years of propaganda and fear mongering.

-sigh-

What is your level of science education?

 

[Lastamender]

-sigh-

What is your level of science education?

Let's start with yours. What you got? A Masters in Gullibility?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

Let's start with yours. What you got? A Masters in Gullibility?

Doctorate. earth science

 

[Lastamender]

Doctorate. earth science

What university?

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

What university?

Let's get your level first.

(And no, you're not getting personal information. It was a state school. Not ivy not particularly famous.)

 

[westwall]

^^^^thinks address is spelled with one "d"

Concentrates on spelling issues because it doesn't understand science or the scientific method.

 

[Lastamender]

Let's get your level first.

(And no, you're not getting personal information. It was a state school. Not ivy not particularly famous.)

What makes you think you are getting personal information about me and my education. You are talking out of your ass. The science of climate was started to push propaganda and scare people.

 

[Billy_Bob]

It's really, really difficult to keep up with the number of bloopers the Warmists manage to accumulate.

The South Pole with the coldest winter in history! The average ...​

https://mkweather.com › Articles
The South Pole with the coldest winter in history! The average temperature of April – September half-year only -61,0°C!

South Pole froze over in coldest winter on record | Live Science​

https://www.livescience.com › south-pole-coldest-winte...
Oct 5, 2021 — Between April and September, a research station sitting on a high plateau in Antarctica, registered an average temperature of minus 78 degrees ...

Antarctica's last 6 months were the coldest on record | CNN​

https://www.cnn.com › 2021/10/09 › weather › weather-r...
Oct 9, 2021 — “For the polar darkness period, from April through September, the average temperature was -60.9 degrees Celsius (-77.6 degrees Fahrenheit), a ...

Antarctic interior posts coldest April-to-September on record​

https://www.weatherzone.com.au › news › antarctic-inte...
Oct 13, 2021 — Casey Station, which is the closest permanent Antarctic station to Australia, had a mean temperature of minus 14ºC between April and September.




For more than 50 years Climate Alarmists in the scientific community and environmental movement have not gotten even one prediction correct, but they do have a perfect record of getting 41 predictions wrong.

LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT WRONG

Here is the source for numbers 1-27. As you will see, the individual sources are not crackpots, but scientific studies and media reports on “expert” predictions. The sources for numbers 28-41 are linked individually.

1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!
37. 2005: Manhattan Underwater by 2015
38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
41. 1970s: Killer Bees!

Sorry, Experts… Sorry, Scientific Consensus… Only a fool comes running for the 42nd cry of wolf.

Mark Simone

Hide and watch.. The northern hemisphere is usually one to one and a half years behind the Southern Hemisphere. This makes the second such year down south. We are already seeing massive cooling of the mid atmosphere in the northern hemisphere.

With a cold PDO, AMO and ENSO this winter is going to be brutal. The ENSO is going into deep cold regions.

I hope everyone is ready for what's coming in the NH.. the time to prepare is almost gone.

 

[westwall]

Hide and watch.. The northern hemisphere is usually one to one and a half years behind the Southern Hemisphere. This makes the second such year down south. We are already seeing massive cooling of the mid atmosphere in the northern hemisphere.

With a cold PDO, AMO and ENSO this winter is going to be brutal. The ENSO is going into deep cold regions.

I hope everyone is ready for what's coming in the NH.. the time to prepare is almost gone.

Yup. We have a full basement and our greenhouses are going full bore right now. I have to rebuild my water wheel though. It is about 23 years old and I don't want to risk it failing.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Yup. We have a full basement and our greenhouses are going full bore right now. I have to rebuild my water wheel though. It is about 23 years old and I don't want to risk it failing.

I have four cords of wood stacked and ready to go. Here on the great divide the wind is blowing constantly. we have our food stores as well. The hybrid solar array, battery storage, and wind turbines are lubricated and read for winter already. Just finished the battery health check today.

Next week its pipes and drains. I won't close off the crawl space until it starts to get cold enough to freeze. I installed closable vents that are insulated.

It looks like I will be ready. I fully expect snow at 5,000 feet by Oct 1. Where I live its 5490 feet above sea level.