Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

[Modbert]

you are delusional

you clearly have shown you know next to NTHING about the PA

its in this very thread
why do i havce to post your every bullshit post to show you dont know anything when you have already DONE it

again, i dont give a rats ass about your non-political posts
but you are too blinded with ABDS to begin to understand that

It wouldn't be a Divecon illogical post without the word bullshit or idiot.

If you're finished whining, I'll be going back to debate the issues at hand.

 

[DiveCon]

It wouldn't be a Divecon illogical post without the word bullshit or idiot.

If you're finished whining, I'll be going back to debate the issues at hand.

i was never whining you moron
you're the one thats been doing all the whining
LOL
as usual, you project your own faulty emotions onto others

 

[Terry]

so wait if ibuprofen is bad wouldn't the PILL also be bad? I mean after all I can see a gay kid wanting to get more estrogen. LOL

 

[roomy]

Excellent, another Agnes thread derailed

Why does it not surprise me that it is about a 13 year old girl being strip searched?

 

[Ravi]

no, it isnt
the right abhors this nonsense
the whole zero tolerence crap came from the left
trying to defeat another columbine


and if you are going to use Wiki, this is a better page to use

Zero tolerance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

lol, thanks for proving it's a right wing concept. Pretty much of a no brainer, especially when the right wing nuts often criticize liberals for giving people a second chance.

 

[Ravi]

A zero-tolerance policy is a policy of not having a tolerance for transgressions: any infraction of existing laws and regulations, regardless of mistakes, ignorance, or even extenuating circumstances, will be met with full punishment. The term may be used in general or with reference to a particular category of transgressions, e.g. a zero-tolerance policy towards alcohol use.

It is typically enacted by an organization (usually a school) against a particular action, or possession of something on organization-controlled property. Many schools have a zero-tolerance policy concerning drugs or weapons.
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Now you're not really stupid enough to try and tell us that teachers, (90% Liberal Democrats) and school administrators (100% Liberal Democrats), are not responsible for these nutty zero tolerance rules are you?
You're gonna have us believe that Conservatives, (practically non-existent in the public school system) are really responsible...

Sonny,,,,get a clue

Something tells me you've never spoken to a teacher.

 

[editec]

I sincerely hope that those responsible for this outrageous sexual assault on this student are put in prison where they belong.

Yeah, that's right, these so called "educators" ought to go to prison for doing that.

As to whether zero tolerance is a right or left wing thing?

Come on, now... everything you all have seen in the world and you are still trying to debate who is worse --the left or the right?


Totalitarianism is left or right or middle. It has nothing to do with the left or right.

Authoritarianism has nothing to do with economics (which is the key to left or right politics) and everything to do with control freakism and abuse of power.

We have seen authoritarianism in extremely left governments and in extremely right governments, too.

So come on people. Wake up and smell the freakin' jackboots, you idiots.

 

[Father Time]

The school claims it needs to be able to strip search students to protect the safety of the students (as if there's no chance they'll abuse drugs at home).

You can smell the bullshit through the computer monitor.

I hope she sues them in civil court.

 

[Anguille]

Ecerpt from the article:



The case involves Savana Redding, who in 2003 was an eighth-grade honor student at Safford Middle School, about 127 miles from Tucson, Arizona. Earlier that day the vice principal had discovered prescription-strength ibuprofen pills in the possession of one of Redding's classmates. That student, facing punishment, accused Redding of providing her with the 400-milligram pills.
The school has a zero-tolerance policy for all prescription and over-the-counter medication, including the ibuprofen, without prior written permission.
Redding was pulled from class by a male vice principal, Kerry Wilson, escorted to an office and confronted with the evidence. She denied the accusations.
A search of Redding's backpack found nothing. Then, although she had never had prior disciplinary problems, a strip-search was conducted with the help of a school nurse and Wilson's assistant, both females. According to court records, she was ordered to strip to her underwear and her bra was pulled out. Again, no drugs were found.
In an affidavit, Redding said, "The strip-search was the most humiliating experience I have ever had. I held my head down so that they could not see that I was about to cry."
With the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, Redding and her family sued, and a federal appeals court in San Francisco, California, ruled against the school.
The court wrote: "Common sense informs us that directing a 13-year-old girl to remove her clothes, partially revealing her breasts and pelvic area, for allegedly possessing ibuprofen ... was excessively intrusive."


It's not clear if ibuprofen was even found in her possession. They searched her on the words of another student who was hoping to reduce her own punishment.



They went too far, they violated her civil rights. I hope the Supreme Court recognizes this. Otherwise, I fear for the safety of children.

 

[Father Time]

I don't know if this was before zero tolerance or after but schools seem to be abusing power more and more.

And it doesn't matter whose fault it is zero policy rules are idiotic and do more harm than good (having personally suffered at the hands of zero policy but nowhere near the amount this student has).

Although I can easily see both sides swallowing that crap as necessary for school safety.

And why was a strip search necessary vs. a pat down?

 

[Zoom-boing]

It's not clear if ibuprofen was even found in her possession. They searched her on the words of another student who was hoping to reduce her own punishment.



They went too far, they violated her civil rights. I hope the Supreme Court recognizes this. Otherwise, I fear for the safety of children.

 

[Father Time]

Anyone else not surprised that the school follows the golden rule of BS?

That the end justifys evil means?

 

[DiveCon]

lol, thanks for proving it's a right wing concept. Pretty much of a no brainer, especially when the right wing nuts often criticize liberals for giving people a second chance.

no moron, its the left trying to remove themseleves of having to actually address the situation and risk being wrong
they can just say "its the zero tolerance policy" and they are covered

 

[Ravi]

no moron, its the left trying to remove themseleves of having to actually address the situation and risk being wrong
they can just say "its the zero tolerance policy" and they are covered

Nope, you're still wrong. Teachers don't make school policy, btw. The school board does.

 

[Father Time]

Can anyone here actually prove that zero tolerance policies were made by a group of leftists or rightists?

 

[Ravi]

Can anyone here actually prove that zero tolerance policies were made by a group of leftists or rightists?

Sure, read the link that dcon provided. It's quite clear that a policy of zero tolerance is a right wing concept.

Zero tolerance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And a stupid concept, too boot.

 

[DiveCon]

Sure, read the link that dcon provided. It's quite clear that a policy of zero tolerance is a right wing concept.

Zero tolerance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And a stupid concept, too boot.

LOL yeah, cause right wing control most school boards

you are an idiot

 

[Father Time]

You know I haven't seen either side make much of an effort to try to rid schools of zero tolerance.

 

[Agnapostate]

Whether zero tolerance policies are "left wing" or "right wing" is irrelevant. Both the left and the right attempted to shred the Constitution after Columbine; the only difference between them is that the right went after the First Amendment, while the left went after the Second.

 

[DiveCon]

Whether zero tolerance policies are "left wing" or "right wing" is irrelevant. Both the left and the right attempted to shred the Constitution after Columbine; the only difference between them is that the right went after the First Amendment, while the left went after the Second.

dont confuse "republican" with "right"
just because some moderate to liberal republicans were for that crap, doesnt make it a "right" thing