Democrats....Listen To Maher, He's Trying To Help

[JohnDB]

Lots of folks support the idea that government should take things other people have earned, and give it to them.
That's socialism.

 

[Robert W]

You do not know what marxism means.

Your descriotion is ignorant and false. Marxism is the abolishment of private property and enslavement of all by the collective

Slalinism IS MARXISM but merely tweeked some

Marx never proposed violuntary cooperatives

Also Marx was a German who ended up working for the Bolsheviks. He thinks Stalin was a fine man eh?

When a worker accepts a job at a set pay rate he enters into a contract willingly. He does a specific task for a specific wage. That's not "theft." That's an agreement. He can't agree to those terms then scream "theft" when the corporation sticks to those terms.

If I come up with an idea or create a new product and start my own company I am not obligated to "share" the fruits of my idea with anyone at all. I have a right to prosper as a result of my own efforts. If I get rich ... I don't owe you a dime.

It can't be too complex to understand your post. When has a Democrat applied to a job and told the hiring agent do not cheat me? Or that the corporation plans to cheat him or her? They lack compassion that they even got hired at all.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Trump has given sensible, educated people plenty of reasons not to like him. Trying to steal the 2020 election, for instance.

Irrelevant. I'm talking about your generalization of Trump supporters. Reiterating your opinion of Trump himself does not validate your broadbrush opinion of them.

The fact that you still like Trump shows that not only can't you think critically, but you are a morally vacant person.

I was waiting for something just like this because I knew it was coming.

Fact: I haven't said a word about Trump himself or his actions, much less indicated in any way that I "like" him.

Fact: My feelings about Trump one way or the other are no indication that I am "morally vacant". This is a personal opinion that is, literally, based on nothing I've said.

The concept of morality is too highly complex to where one can blithely assess another's moral character after two or three brief exchanges on an internet message board and be tenable.

Critical thinking requires knowing when a "deal breaking" line has been crossed....trying to steal the 2020 election, for instance. Trying to subvert our democracy.

Wrong. Critical thinking does not require knowing the final determination beforehand. It is required to assess and consider all the facts before making that determination.

You're putting the cart before the horse. You're declaring the "truth" without critical thought and calling the declaration itself "critical thought".

You're incapable of recognizing when a deal breaker has been reached. Because you don't value our democracy, which is a part of your lack of education and your lack of decency.

First of all, irrelevant. We're not addressing my feelings and opinions about Trump's actions and I have yet to express anything about them anyway. We're addressing your broadbrush negative assessment of Trump supporters.

Here's a question for you that I know you won't be able to answer. Or rather, any answer you give will be based on predetermined assumptions and opinions about Trump:

What have I actually said to lead you to the conclusion that I am incapable of recognizing when a deal breaker has been reached; that I don't value democracy or that I lack education and decency?

That's your interpretation...because you are stupid, uneducated, and can't think critically.

It's my interpretation that the educated are just as capable of hatred, pettiness and vindictiveness and display it just as much? Are you saying they are not as capable of this?

And it's NOTHING more than that.

Wrong on all counts. It is not my interpretation that the educated are just as capable of hatred, pettiness and vindictiveness. That is fact and I've seen it here many times. At the same time, it is your interpretation that I am stupid, uneducated, and can't think critically.

Here's an important distinction I think you need to be made aware of that will explain the difference between critical thinking and rash assumptions: I have made it clear that you are not employing critical thinking in this discussion. Whereas you have made the assertion that I, however, am incapable of critical thinking.

Thinking critically means knowing that I don't know that you are incapable of critical thinking. I don't know this, therefore, I don't make that claim. You do.

Don't know what this gibberish means. Sounds like a bunch of stupid assumptions by an uneducated bumpkin.

So you're basing an assessment that I am an uneducated bumpkin on something you don't even understand?

More incomprehensible gibberish. You are off the rails.

You said: "Yet they (the educated) are smart enough not to vote for a traitor like Trump who tried to steal the 2020 election. A major difference...that is all the difference in the world. Like night and day."

To which I responded that if an educated person accuses me of being racist against "brown people" because of my expressed views on illegal immigration then there is no difference between us because his education did not prevent him from making an assumptive leap that he has no way of knowing.

You're the one touting education here as some kind of virtue. I'm just illustrating that it makes no fundamental difference.

I am different than you. I value our democracy. You do not. I value treating people humanely. You do not.

You're getting all this from my saying that you made a broadbrush assessment of Trump supporters?

It's not an assumption. Anyone who still votes for Trump after Jan 6 has proven themselves to not be educated, not to be decent, or both.

That is an assumption and opinion.

More lies. You say this shit to feel good about voting for someone as evil as Trump.

Irrelevant. Again, I haven't said a single word about Trump and I certainly did not indicate in any way that I voted for him.

The Democratic Party has a lot of problems. But you have your own set of morals and critical thinking ability. And yours is severely lacking.

Assumption and opinion.

The Democratic Party has never done anything as remotely as bad as Trump trying to steal the 2020 election. PERIOD.

Again, irrelevant. First of all, it's not a contest. Secondly, my remarks were about how and why Trump got elected.

Among other things, I said it was due to the Democrat Party's virtue signaling. So what do you do? Double down and expand on the virtue signaling to say that those who voted for him lack virtue. The irony could sink a battleship.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Irrelevant. I'm talking about your generalization of Trump supporters. Reiterating your opinion of Trump himself does not validate your broadbrush opinion of them.

Sure it does. Trump supporters continue to vote for someone who tried to steal the 2020 election.

Not only are they stupid, but they are morally repugnant.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

However you claim to be against Tariffs until you learn Biden made high end use of them. You approve them when done by Biden, so why be upset when Trump uses the same thing?

What part of "Biden didn't use blanket tariffs" did you fail to understand, slow-learner??

 

[SovereignSoul]

Hard to believe anyone with two cerebral neurons to rub together can post something this stupid.


Democrats:

Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system



Now where is your list, you dunce?

The only list that matters at this stage should have the names of traitors that will be tried for their treasonous acts some of which you mentioned above. Unfortunately, it does not exist because your uni-party will not hold its members criminally accountable.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The only list that matters at this stage should have the names of traitors that will be tried for their treasonous acts some of which you mentioned above. Unfortunately, it does not exist because your uni-party will not hold its members criminally accountable.

I just proved that the two parties are vastly different.

Did you miss that, or is it a mental defect?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Fuck Bill Maher. Democrats don't need to be panicking after losing by 1.5 percent. Especially after the lesson that people are going to be taught for making this decision.

Democrat approval is 27 percent.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Democrat approval is 27 percent.

I wonder what it looks like after today.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Sure it does. Trump supporters continue to vote for someone who tried to steal the 2020 election.
Not only are they stupid, but they are morally repugnant.

Yeah, and you couldn't even be bothered to answer my question as to what I actually said to lead you to the conclusion that I'm stupid, lacking morals and have no critical thinking skills.

If it's true they are stupid and morally repugnant, it's also true that you're a first rate hypocrite and a craven coward.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Yeah, and you couldn't even be bothered to answer my question as to what I actually said to lead you to the conclusion that I'm stupid, lacking morals and have no critical thinking skills.

I just did, dude. Your long-winded post does not address this fundamental truth that I summed-up in one sentence.

If it's true they are stupid and morally repugnant, it's also true that you're a first rate hypocrite and a craven coward.

No...because I didn't vote for anyone who tried to steal a U.S. election. And I would never vote for someone who supported violence, like Trump did.

 

[SovereignSoul]

I just proved that the two parties are vastly different.

Did you miss that, or is it a mental defect?

You proved nothing! If the parties were truly different there would be arrests for the treasonous crimes, you listed. Is that not what your President meant by "cleaning the swamp"? Where are the arrests?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

I just did, dude. Your long-winded post does not address this fundamental truth that I summed-up in one sentence.

That one sentence was irrelevant to the topic of the OP, to my point about your generalization of Trump supporters and to my question.

My question was: What, specifically, did I say to lead you to the conclusion that I am stupid, morally vacant, uneducated and incapable of critical thinking? Or even that I like Trump or voted for him? How did you arrive at this conclusion since I never said a word about him?

No...because I didn't vote for anyone who tried to steal a U.S. election. And I would never vote for someone who supported violence, like Trump did.

Your hypocrisy and cowardice have nothing to do with Trump or whether you voted for him or not. I really don't give a shit about how you feel about the man himself. I'm addressing your lazy, sweeping moral condemnation of an entire group composed of millions of people.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You proved nothing! If the parties were truly different there would be arrests for the treasonous crimes, you listed. Is that not what your President meant by "cleaning the swamp"? Where are the arrests?

See...this is why you never made it out of fifth grade.....but I am magnanimous (better look that up) so I will give you another chance.

This was the policy of the Democrats.....I challenge you to provide a similar anti-American list for the other side.....or admit you are a dunce.


Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system




And.....I just love skewering morons who pretend the two parties are the same.

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

That one sentence was irrelevant to the topic of the OP, to my point about your generalization of Trump supporters and to my question.

My question was: What, specifically, did I say to lead you to the conclusion that I am stupid, morally vacant, uneducated and incapable of critical thinking? Or even that I like Trump or voted for him? How did you arrive at this conclusion since I never said a word about him?

Your hypocrisy and cowardice have nothing to do with Trump or whether you voted for him or not. I really don't give a shit about how you feel about the man himself. I'm addressing your lazy, sweeping moral condemnation of an entire group composed of millions of people.

Since my condemnation of all MAGA voters bothers you this much, you are obviously one of them.

Nobody is this passionate defending racist domestic terrorists....unless you share kinship with them.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Exactly.
The US did not allow Russian nukes in Cuba, so Putin should similarly not allow US nukes in the Ukraine.
Zelensky is the treaty violator, so has to go.

The US has no need or intention to put nukes in Ukraine

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Since my condemnation of all MAGA voters bothers you this much, you are obviously one of them.

It's not your condemnation of all MAGA voters, it's your hypocrisy of touting critical thought while leveling a condemnation of millions of individuals that took no critical thought.

Nobody is this passionate defending racist domestic terrorists....unless you share kinship with them.

That's exactly what a person not applying critical thought would say.

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[SovereignSoul]

See...this is why you never made it out of fifth grade.....but I am magnanimous (better look that up) so I will give you another chance.

This was the policy of the Democrats.....I challenge you to provide a similar anti-American list for the other side.....or admit you are a dunce.


Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system




And.....I just love skewering morons who pretend the two parties are the same.

The difference you perceive between the two parties is only rhetorical (political stagecraft) . The combined actions / inaction of both parties throughout the iterations of power transitions have resulted in the destruction of America. This is something that anyone can verify with their their own eyes!

Two parties pretend to be different, but curiously the outcome for America is the same - destruction!