Did Pope Francis help the church by going woke?

[Votto]

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Francis Worked to Make Catholic Church More Inclusive​

The cardinals who will choose Pope Francis' successor will have to decide whether to follow his path toward a more welcoming, global and collegial church or restore the more doctrinaire approach of his predecessors. Francis made strides in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and tackled its murky financial culture. He created thousands of bishops and appointed more than half of the College of Cardinals. He also reached out to Muslim leaders.

• The cardinals are at a crossroads, deciding whether to continue Pope Francis' vision of a more inclusive and global church or revert to the traditional stance of previous popes. This choice will spark significant discussions among them.
• Pope Francis leaves behind a complex legacy, as early hopes for a 'Francis effect' to boost church attendance in the secular West have largely not materialized, even as attendance grows in the global South.
• While Francis made notable progress in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and financial issues, the future direction he set is likely to be a contentious topic among the cardinals.
• His openness to discussing major theological issues like divorce, married priests, same-sex couples, and women's roles excited many liberal Catholics but raised concerns that a less reform-minded successor could undo these changes.
• Francis aimed to shift the church's trajectory away from the conservative paths of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, especially in response to the latter's failure to adequately address child sexual abuse within the church.
• Despite his progressive agenda, Francis was not afraid to confront conservative elements within the church, even dismissing high-ranking officials who resisted his vision.
• His global outreach, particularly in engaging with Muslim leaders and addressing issues affecting vulnerable Catholic communities, was significant, but his lasting impact is likely to be seen in the church's internal structure and the bishops he appointed who align with his priorities.

I referred to being more "inclusive" as being woke. Many may disagree, but it's the truth nonetheless.

Was it worth it? Did it help spread the gospel of Christ? According to church attendance, not so much.

Politically, did it help the church? Will governments around the world, which have progressively gotten more woke themselves, now treat the Catholic church better politically? If so, is that a good thing, considering that Christ basically upset every world government on earth as well as every religious institution, causing them to put him to death?

 

[Votto]

After reading that Francis appointed to many Cardinals, I would assume that after placing his Left wing stooges to replace him, they will continue down this road.

But does the Left think of the church anymore favorably? I don't think so. All they have done is driving away conservatives from their flock. In fact, Pope Francis went on a jihad against conservative priests by defrocking many of them for doing such things as being anti-abortion activists in the US.

 

[justoffal]

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Francis Worked to Make Catholic Church More Inclusive​

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The cardinals who will choose Pope Francis' successor will have to decide whether to follow his path toward a more welcoming, global and collegial church or restore the more doctrinaire approach of his predecessors. Francis made strides in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and tackled its murky financial culture. He created thousands of bishops and appointed more than half of the College of Cardinals. He also reached out to Muslim leaders.

• The cardinals are at a crossroads, deciding whether to continue Pope Francis' vision of a more inclusive and global church or revert to the traditional stance of previous popes. This choice will spark significant discussions among them.
• Pope Francis leaves behind a complex legacy, as early hopes for a 'Francis effect' to boost church attendance in the secular West have largely not materialized, even as attendance grows in the global South.
• While Francis made notable progress in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and financial issues, the future direction he set is likely to be a contentious topic among the cardinals.
• His openness to discussing major theological issues like divorce, married priests, same-sex couples, and women's roles excited many liberal Catholics but raised concerns that a less reform-minded successor could undo these changes.
• Francis aimed to shift the church's trajectory away from the conservative paths of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, especially in response to the latter's failure to adequately address child sexual abuse within the church.
• Despite his progressive agenda, Francis was not afraid to confront conservative elements within the church, even dismissing high-ranking officials who resisted his vision.
• His global outreach, particularly in engaging with Muslim leaders and addressing issues affecting vulnerable Catholic communities, was significant, but his lasting impact is likely to be seen in the church's internal structure and the bishops he appointed who align with his priorities.

I referred to being more "inclusive" as being woke. Many may disagree, but it's the truth nonetheless.

Was it worth it? Did it help spread the gospel of Christ? According to church attendance, not so much.

Politically, did it help the church? Will governments around the world, which have progressively gotten more woke themselves, now treat the Catholic church better politically? If so, is that a good thing, considering that Christ basically upset every world government on earth as well as every religious institution, causing them to put him to death?

Francis the talking Pope was a disgrace to his robes.
Good riddance hopefully they replace him with conservative traditional Pope.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

When did "God" change his mind that "Homosexuals were an abomination and deserved death"? Raised in the Catholic cult here and escaped. Never could figure out why we should hold beads in our hand and recite rote prayers over and over and over again. Was God hard of hearing or something?

 

[Blaster]

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After reading that Francis appointed to many Cardinals, I would assume that after placing his Left wing stooges to replace him, they will continue down this road.

But does the Left think of the church anymore favorably? I don't think so. All they have done is driving away conservatives from their flock. In fact, Pope Francis went on a jihad against conservative priests by defrocking many of them for doing such things as being anti-abortion activists in the US.

This Pope was very liberal and not traditional.

 

[Votto]

When did "God" change his mind that "Homosexuals were an abomination and deserved death"? Raised in the Catholic cult here and escaped. Never could figure out why we should hold beads in our hand and recite rote prayers over and over and over again. Was God hard of hearing or something?

The catholic church has an ugly history of trying to be politically correct in order to try and survive the political waters of their era, like when Nazis controlled Europe.

 

[jwoodie]

Was it worth it? Did it help spread the gospel of Christ? According to church attendance, not so much.

Othodox churches are gaining while woke churches are failing. Roman Catholicism is becoming more of a tradition than a religion.

 

[d0gbreath]

"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall inherit the Kingdom of God." -JC

 

[Votto]

Francis the talking Pope was a disgrace to his robes.
Good riddance hopefully they replace him with conservative traditional Pope.

You ain't seen nothing yet

Wait will one of his DEI stooges he put in decides to replace him

In fact, they are probably looking for a black woman to replace him as we speak.

 

[initforme]

Francis the talking Pope was a disgrace to his robes.
Good riddance hopefully they replace him with conservative traditional Pope.

I thought he was great. Best pope during my lifetime. All about helping people as Jesus taught.

 

[Dragonlady]

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Francis Worked to Make Catholic Church More Inclusive​

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The cardinals who will choose Pope Francis' successor will have to decide whether to follow his path toward a more welcoming, global and collegial church or restore the more doctrinaire approach of his predecessors. Francis made strides in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and tackled its murky financial culture. He created thousands of bishops and appointed more than half of the College of Cardinals. He also reached out to Muslim leaders.

• The cardinals are at a crossroads, deciding whether to continue Pope Francis' vision of a more inclusive and global church or revert to the traditional stance of previous popes. This choice will spark significant discussions among them.
• Pope Francis leaves behind a complex legacy, as early hopes for a 'Francis effect' to boost church attendance in the secular West have largely not materialized, even as attendance grows in the global South.
• While Francis made notable progress in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and financial issues, the future direction he set is likely to be a contentious topic among the cardinals.
• His openness to discussing major theological issues like divorce, married priests, same-sex couples, and women's roles excited many liberal Catholics but raised concerns that a less reform-minded successor could undo these changes.
• Francis aimed to shift the church's trajectory away from the conservative paths of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, especially in response to the latter's failure to adequately address child sexual abuse within the church.
• Despite his progressive agenda, Francis was not afraid to confront conservative elements within the church, even dismissing high-ranking officials who resisted his vision.
• His global outreach, particularly in engaging with Muslim leaders and addressing issues affecting vulnerable Catholic communities, was significant, but his lasting impact is likely to be seen in the church's internal structure and the bishops he appointed who align with his priorities.

I referred to being more "inclusive" as being woke. Many may disagree, but it's the truth nonetheless.

Was it worth it? Did it help spread the gospel of Christ? According to church attendance, not so much.

Politically, did it help the church? Will governments around the world, which have progressively gotten more woke themselves, now treat the Catholic church better politically? If so, is that a good thing, considering that Christ basically upset every world government on earth as well as every religious institution, causing them to put him to death?

The idiocy of white Republicans to continue to denigrate an inclusive agenda. White Supremacy at it's most idiotic.

Both of your "anti-woke heros" - Putin and Orban, are seeing educated young adults leaving by the millions. Putin's "wag the dog" invasion of the Ukraine, meant to distract the Russian people from the failure of their economy, has backfired and driven still more young men out of the country to avoid military service.

The nations which have thrived most, are those which are the most inclusive. "Woke" is the key to world success. White nationalism is the death of every nation trying it.

 

[martybegan]

The idiocy of white Republicans to continue to denigrate an inclusive agenda. White Supremacy at it's most idiotic.

Both of your "anti-woke heros" - Putin and Orban, are seeing educated young adults leaving by the millions. Putin's "wag the dog" invasion of the Ukraine, meant to distract the Russian people from the failure of their economy, has backfired and driven still more young men out of the country to avoid military service.

The nations which have thrived most, are those which are the most inclusive. "Woke" is the key to world success. White nationalism is the death of every nation trying it.

 

[justoffal]

The idiocy of white Republicans to continue to denigrate an inclusive agenda. White Supremacy at it's most idiotic.

Both of your "anti-woke heros" - Putin and Orban, are seeing educated young adults leaving by the millions. Putin's "wag the dog" invasion of the Ukraine, meant to distract the Russian people from the failure of their economy, has backfired and driven still more young men out of the country to avoid military service.

The nations which have thrived most, are those which are the most inclusive. "Woke" is the key to world success. White nationalism is the death of every nation trying it.

What a crock of shit.... But you're good for those.

Russia's economy has doubled over the past 5 years.

Great Britain is nearly destroyed because of its inclusivity.

The Netherlands is nearly destroyed because of its inclusivity.

Sweden is nearly destroyed because of its inclusivity.

Ireland is closed behind.

 

[Dragonlady]

What a crock of shit.... But you're good for those.

Russia's economy has doubled over the past 5 years.

Great Britain is nearly destroyed because of its inclusivity.

The Netherlands is nearly destroyed because of its inclusivity.

Sweden is nearly destroyed because of its inclusivity.

Ireland is closed behind.

Russia economy????? What about the RUSSIAN POPULATION????

Russia is speeding into a demographic crisis with a 25-year-low birth rate as the Ukraine war rages on

Russia has had similar troughs in its demographics during World War II and after the fall of the Soviet Union—but things are different this time.

fortune.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-birth-rate-slides-lowest-quarter-century-2024-2024-09-10/

A Russia without Russians? Putin’s disastrous demographics

Russia’s population is shrinking. The demographic consequences from the Russian war against Ukraine will echo for generations.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Population of Russia 2025| Statista

What is the population of Russia? Over the course of 2024, the Russian population decreased by approximately 30,000.

www.statista.com

Wash, rinse and repeat for Hungary:

Fortress Hungary has a surprising answer to its population crisis: Migration

Quietly and without much fanfare, Viktor Orbán’s government is allowing more and more guest workers into the country.

www.politico.eu

Why So Many Hungarians Are Staying Childfree

Despite government incentives, many Hungarians are choosing not to have children -- and are increasingly vocal about it.

www.rferl.org

Shocking forecast: Hungary's population to plummet by 2.2 million by 2100 - DailyNewsHungary

According to a new forecast, Hungary's population could shrink by 2.2 million people by 2100, reducing the current 9.6 million inhabitants to just 7.4 million.

dailynewshungary.com

Hungary Population 1960-2025 | MacroTrends

Total population is based on the de facto definition of population, which counts all residents regardless of legal status or citizenship. The values shown are midyear estimates.

www.macrotrends.net

 

[Invisibleflash]

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Francis Worked to Make Catholic Church More Inclusive​

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The cardinals who will choose Pope Francis' successor will have to decide whether to follow his path toward a more welcoming, global and collegial church or restore the more doctrinaire approach of his predecessors. Francis made strides in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and tackled its murky financial culture. He created thousands of bishops and appointed more than half of the College of Cardinals. He also reached out to Muslim leaders.

• The cardinals are at a crossroads, deciding whether to continue Pope Francis' vision of a more inclusive and global church or revert to the traditional stance of previous popes. This choice will spark significant discussions among them.
• Pope Francis leaves behind a complex legacy, as early hopes for a 'Francis effect' to boost church attendance in the secular West have largely not materialized, even as attendance grows in the global South.
• While Francis made notable progress in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and financial issues, the future direction he set is likely to be a contentious topic among the cardinals.
• His openness to discussing major theological issues like divorce, married priests, same-sex couples, and women's roles excited many liberal Catholics but raised concerns that a less reform-minded successor could undo these changes.
• Francis aimed to shift the church's trajectory away from the conservative paths of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, especially in response to the latter's failure to adequately address child sexual abuse within the church.
• Despite his progressive agenda, Francis was not afraid to confront conservative elements within the church, even dismissing high-ranking officials who resisted his vision.
• His global outreach, particularly in engaging with Muslim leaders and addressing issues affecting vulnerable Catholic communities, was significant, but his lasting impact is likely to be seen in the church's internal structure and the bishops he appointed who align with his priorities.

I referred to being more "inclusive" as being woke. Many may disagree, but it's the truth nonetheless.

Was it worth it? Did it help spread the gospel of Christ? According to church attendance, not so much.

Politically, did it help the church? Will governments around the world, which have progressively gotten more woke themselves, now treat the Catholic church better politically? If so, is that a good thing, considering that Christ basically upset every world government on earth as well as every religious institution, causing them to put him to death?

Church wants the $$...that is all.

 

[80zephyr]

Russia economy????? What about the RUSSIAN POPULATION????

Russia is speeding into a demographic crisis with a 25-year-low birth rate as the Ukraine war rages on

Russia has had similar troughs in its demographics during World War II and after the fall of the Soviet Union—but things are different this time.

fortune.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-birth-rate-slides-lowest-quarter-century-2024-2024-09-10/

A Russia without Russians? Putin’s disastrous demographics

Russia’s population is shrinking. The demographic consequences from the Russian war against Ukraine will echo for generations.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Population of Russia 2025| Statista

What is the population of Russia? Over the course of 2024, the Russian population decreased by approximately 30,000.

www.statista.com

Wash, rinse and repeat for Hungary:

Fortress Hungary has a surprising answer to its population crisis: Migration

Quietly and without much fanfare, Viktor Orbán’s government is allowing more and more guest workers into the country.

www.politico.eu

Why So Many Hungarians Are Staying Childfree

Despite government incentives, many Hungarians are choosing not to have children -- and are increasingly vocal about it.

www.rferl.org

Shocking forecast: Hungary's population to plummet by 2.2 million by 2100 - DailyNewsHungary

According to a new forecast, Hungary's population could shrink by 2.2 million people by 2100, reducing the current 9.6 million inhabitants to just 7.4 million.

dailynewshungary.com

Hungary Population 1960-2025 | MacroTrends

Total population is based on the de facto definition of population, which counts all residents regardless of legal status or citizenship. The values shown are midyear estimates.

www.macrotrends.net

Every modern country on Earth is at zero population growth or below. What about the rest of them?

 

[konradv]

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Francis Worked to Make Catholic Church More Inclusive​

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The cardinals who will choose Pope Francis' successor will have to decide whether to follow his path toward a more welcoming, global and collegial church or restore the more doctrinaire approach of his predecessors. Francis made strides in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and tackled its murky financial culture. He created thousands of bishops and appointed more than half of the College of Cardinals. He also reached out to Muslim leaders.

• The cardinals are at a crossroads, deciding whether to continue Pope Francis' vision of a more inclusive and global church or revert to the traditional stance of previous popes. This choice will spark significant discussions among them.
• Pope Francis leaves behind a complex legacy, as early hopes for a 'Francis effect' to boost church attendance in the secular West have largely not materialized, even as attendance grows in the global South.
• While Francis made notable progress in addressing the church's sexual abuse crisis and financial issues, the future direction he set is likely to be a contentious topic among the cardinals.
• His openness to discussing major theological issues like divorce, married priests, same-sex couples, and women's roles excited many liberal Catholics but raised concerns that a less reform-minded successor could undo these changes.
• Francis aimed to shift the church's trajectory away from the conservative paths of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, especially in response to the latter's failure to adequately address child sexual abuse within the church.
• Despite his progressive agenda, Francis was not afraid to confront conservative elements within the church, even dismissing high-ranking officials who resisted his vision.
• His global outreach, particularly in engaging with Muslim leaders and addressing issues affecting vulnerable Catholic communities, was significant, but his lasting impact is likely to be seen in the church's internal structure and the bishops he appointed who align with his priorities.

I referred to being more "inclusive" as being woke. Many may disagree, but it's the truth nonetheless.

Was it worth it? Did it help spread the gospel of Christ? According to church attendance, not so much.

Politically, did it help the church? Will governments around the world, which have progressively gotten more woke themselves, now treat the Catholic church better politically? If so, is that a good thing, considering that Christ basically upset every world government on earth as well as every religious institution, causing them to put him to death?

What’s woke? Read Matt. 5-7.

 

[konradv]

When did "God" change his mind that "Homosexuals were an abomination and deserved death"?

Something Jesus never said!

 

[80zephyr]

Something Jesus never said!

Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished”

 

[konradv]

Jesus said, “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished”

All the law. You seem fixated. Matt, 5-7, that’s Christianity.