Former President Jimmy Carter Dead

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Uh, guy, when we signed a treaty with NV, we knew that they were going to violate it. Not to relitigate the whole Vietnam War, but our military leaders KNEW from the start it was a fool's errand. They know that if there was a free and open election, Ho Chi Mihn would have won by a landslide over the French Quislings we were backing.

Pay attention folks. Over 1,000,000 Viet Namese were killed by the U.S. As opposed the 58,000 U.S. Dead (They are what Felon47 calls, "Suckers and Losers").

The War in Viet Nam had been going on since the end of WWII. It was what the Viet Namese "The French War", which ended with the French surrender at Bien Dien Phu. Then came the "American War". For Ho, it was a War of Unification. HIs country (Viet Nam) had been divided, much like Korea was after WWII. He fought the Chinese, the Japanese, the French and the Americans. His only goal was unify his country. When I was there the War was already lost for the Americans. Using Agent Orange, mining the port of Hai Phong, the indiscriminate shelling villages in Viet Nam by the U.S.

The U.S. approach was a failure. But it was doomed to fail. The Viet Namese wanted one nation. The U.S. knew going in that the peace treaty was a farse. Kissinger sold out the South Viet Namese. Nixon handed South Viet on a silver platter to the North, he surrendered to the North. Just like Felon47 sold the Afghan Government out to Taliban. He surrendered, just like Nixon.

The Military, when I joined was all volunteer. There were some people who had been drafted but by in large they joined by choice. Me, I joined up. Knowing I would be sent there. Viet Nam was a horror story.

Greenland and Canada will be way much worse.

 

[Robert W]

(They are what Felon47 calls, "Suckers and Losers").

Trump said that about only one American sucker. And he paid Trump back by killing a true law to help millions rather than the stingy Obamacare law. Do you know it banned most of Americans from getting that law?

 

[JoeB131]

I can't talk for the All volunteer military. The Navy and Air force were volunteers but not the Army when they grabbed me from my firm I created.

Actually, that's not really true, all the services relied on conscripts.

Ah I see now why you used to be a Republican. You assume as a former Republican it is fine when you attack a religion you don't understand.

Naw, I understand your weird little cult all too well.

You buy the bullshit handed to you by Biden that we get to pretend that Russia never invaded Ukraine and will make fine Russian citizens out of the Ukranians as he did to Crimea.

I think your point is confused. Here's the thing. Russia did have a valid issue, that there were Ethnic Russians in Crimea and Donbass who would rather be part of Russia. (Just like there were Germans in the Sudentenland and Danzig who would have rather been part of Germany.) I also think both Zelensky and Putin violated the very sensible Minsk accords that should have resolved this peacefully with a redrawing of borders.

The story you tell here is be really scared out of your mind by threats of Putin. Well how the hell did it take him so long to accomplish so little he had to call on North Korea to help him?

You miss the point about why Putin concerns me. Putin concerns me because 1) he has nukes and 2) He's a ruthless old man dying of cancer and have zero shits to give at this point. A rapid escalation might have inflicted heavier casualties on the Russians earlier, but it might have also provoked Putin to push the button because he felt threatened.

Not to worry, Trump will sell out Ukraine and you'll praise him for it.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump said that about only one American sucker. And he paid Trump back by killing a true law to help millions rather than the stingy Obamacare law. Do you know it banned most of Americans from getting that law?

I think you are confused again.

Trump wanted to overturn Obamacare without anything to replace it.

When millions of poor rural whites find they are losing their health coverage or can be refused treatments for pre-existing conditions, Trump isn't going to be very popular.

 

[Robert W]

Actually, that's not really true, all the services relied on conscripts.

Joe, were you even a thought of your dad when I was in the Army?
When I was drafted, I never saw any of my group drafted by the Air Force or Marines or the Navy. What makes you an expert when you were only a hope by your own father?

 

[Robert W]

Trump wanted to overturn Obamacare without anything to replace it.

Try to get onto Obamacare. My son is retired and they turned him down when he tried.

It is a piss poor law you keep defending. Democrats want the death penalty turned down too. What will they replace that law with?

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, were you even a thought of your dad when I was in the Army?
When I was drafted, I never saw any of my group drafted by the Air Force or Marines or the Navy. What makes you an expert when you were only a hope by your own father?

I kind of doubt you are that old.

The AF and Navy didn't use conscription during Vietnam, but they didn't have to. the fear of being drafted into the army where the shooting was going on was enough to keep the volunteers coming.

Try to get onto Obamacare. My son is retired and they turned him down when he tried.

It is a piss poor law you keep defending. Democrats want the death penalty turned down too. What will they replace that law with?

Life without parole works for me.

Now, I've never been on Obamacare because I make too much money, and have usually been able to get insurance through my employer.

That said, Mrs. B131 was on Obamacare before we got married. Because she made very little in her day job, she qualified for a very reasonable plan

Now, here's the kicker. AFTER we got married, we had to file taxes under our joint income, which meant that she no longer qualified for the subsidy, and they clawed back that money for the months she was on it we weren't married.

 

[Lesh]

Yup

Still dead

 

[Lesh]

Try to get onto Obamacare. My son is retired and they turned him down when he tried.

It is a piss poor law you keep defending. Democrats want the death penalty turned down too. What will they replace that law with?

Bullshit. You old lying coot

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Joe, were you even a thought of your dad when I was in the Army?
When I was drafted, I never saw any of my group drafted by the Air Force or Marines or the Navy. What makes you an expert when you were only a hope by your own father?

Basically, what happened was at the process center if the other services were short on recruits that month then that number of draftees were sent to that service.

 

[Robert W]

Basically, what happened was at the process center if the other services were short on recruits that month then that number of draftees were sent to that service.

I wanted then to be a pilot. And I had been in the Civil Air Patrol!!! Why was I forced into the Army?

 

[Robert W]

Bullshit. You old lying coot

 

[Robert W]

Basically, what happened was at the process center if the other services were short on recruits that month then that number of draftees were sent to that service.

Damned few when was drafted told me that story.

 

[Robert W]

I kind of doubt you are that old.

The AF and Navy didn't use conscription during Vietnam, but they didn't have to. the fear of being drafted into the army where the shooting was going on was enough to keep the volunteers coming.

I am 86 JoeB131. I had pals who joined the National Guard, the Coast Guard and even the Navy to keep out of the draft. I was drafted after Korea but at the time all the Army did for Vietnam was train them to fight well. It was after my Army time that Johnson opened up Vietnam for all out war. You know, he the Democrat.

 

[Robert W]

Now, I've never been on Obamacare because I make too much money, and have usually been able to get insurance through my employer.

Try this Joe. Be Self employed and you must then pay 100 percent of your health care. Nothing done by Democrats helps out the self employed.

 

[Robert W]

Life without parole works for me.

JoeB131, talk to actual convicts. Biden commuted two inmates from the death penalty and they tell that they do not want his commutation. That they are innocent and he fucked them both up!!!

Two death row inmates reject Biden's commutation of their life sentences

Shannon Agofsky and Len Davis were among 37 of the 40 federal prisoners whose death sentences were changed to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Robert W]

Now, here's the kicker. AFTER we got married, we had to file taxes under our joint income, which meant that she no longer qualified for the subsidy, and they clawed back that money for the months she was on it we weren't married.

Democrats fucked you when they passed that law.

 

[JoeB131]

Try this Joe. Be Self employed and you must then pay 100 percent of your health care. Nothing done by Democrats helps out the self employed.

Actually, I have been self-employed or had side businesses.

How many people are self-employed vs. how many rely on group plans that abused them?

The thing is, thanks to Obama, your self-employed plan can't decided your cancer is a "pre-existing condition" and not pay for your treatment. That would strike me as a big help.

If you are 86, then you are on Medicare. Who started Medicare? Oh that's right, LBJ, a DEMOCRAT. You think some private insurance company is going to insure your 86 year old ass?

Democrats fucked you when they passed that law.

Well, no, she got good cheap insurance for years. Now, in retrospect, we should have gotten married in January and this wouldn't have been an issue.

@JoeB131, talk to actual convicts. Biden commuted two inmates from the death penalty and they tell that they do not want his commutation. That they are innocent and he fucked them both up!!!

These clowns are delusional. They've been on death row for decades, no one is 'finding them innocent" at this point. Trump will pop their asses like party favors when he gets back in.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Actually, I have been self-employed or had side businesses.

How many people are self-employed vs. how many rely on group plans that abused them?

The thing is, thanks to Obama, your self-employed plan can't decided your cancer is a "pre-existing condition" and not pay for your treatment. That would strike me as a big help.

If you are 86, then you are on Medicare. Who started Medicare? Oh that's right, LBJ, a DEMOCRAT. You think some private insurance company is going to insure your 86 year old ass?



Well, no, she got good cheap insurance for years. Now, in retrospect, we should have gotten married in January and this wouldn't have been an issue.




These clowns are delusional. They've been on death row for decades, no one is 'finding them innocent" at this point. Trump will pop their asses like party favors when he gets back in.

Got to admit thinking after all this time they will be found innocent is beyond stupid

 

[Ringo]