From Bush To Trump To January 6th: The Rise And Fall Of "Constitutional Conservatism"

[Doc7505]

Because a significant percentage of the American population, about 30%, have a cult leader who appeals to a base that is all about culture wars. And I would not be surprised if he wins again in 2024.

~~~~~~
That's right Democrats make up about 30% of the population the rest are conservative and independent voters.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In fact, ideology has never been conservatives' strong suit — at least, not in recent American history. Where they've been more successful is with myth-making, or to put it in marketing terms, branding. Bush ran for president in 2000 as a "compassionate conservative," purportedly saving the movement from the divisive, destructive legacy of Newt Gingrich's scorched-earth politics. But as Bush speechwriter David Frum later observed, that was "less like a philosophy than a marketing slogan."

With Bush departing in disgrace after the landslide election of Barack Obama, it was time for another reboot, and another alliteration: "Compassionate conservatism" was out; "constitutional conservatism" was in. But no one was quite sure what that meant. There were at least three broad camps who advanced that terminology around 2009 and 2010: "Burkean" intellectuals, Tea Party insurrectionists and the conservative movement leaders who produced a manifesto, "The Mount Vernon Statement: Constitutional Conservatism: A Statement for the 21st Century."

The label also resonated with three other overlapping constituencies who had long been fixated on the Constitution: Christian nationalists, with their specious claims that America was founded as a Christian nation; the "originalist" judicial activists of the conservative legal movement who claimed to channel the innermost thoughts of the founding fathers; and an assortment of conspiracy-minded right-wing populists, typified by longtime congressman and two-time GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul. His followers claimed to be the only true constitutionalists, feeding into such phenomena as the "constitutional sheriffs" movement, which proposes that county sheriffs are the only legitimate elected officials or law enforcement officers. The tensions within and between these competing versions of constitutional conservatism ultimately brought us Donald Trump's presidency — and then his attempted coup in 2021.

What these factions had in common with was this: They represented the views of an aggressive, embattled minority across a range of issues, while rhetorically claiming to stand for a silent, imagined supermajority of "real Americans." With a few odd exceptions, such as his promise not to cut Social Security or Medicare and his reluctance to engage in overseas military adventures, the same could be said of Trump, who largely fit into the constitutional conservative scheme, even as his malevolent excesses undermined it.

From Bush to Trump to Jan. 6: The rise and fall of 'constitutional conservatism'

After generations in the shadows of American political discourse, the phrase "constitutional conservatism" burst onto center stage after the disastrous conclusion of the George W. Bush administration. The junior Bush left office in 2009 with a 22% approval rating, in the middle of the worst...

www.rawstory.com

It was the original big lie. The conservative brain believes America is a country club for members only. It's the true elitist mindset. What it is really, is a load of horse shit, not based at all in reality. Like everything else they believe.

 

[mak2]

~~~~~~
That's right Democrats make up about 30% of the population the rest are conservative and independent voters.

I don't know what you are trying to say, but I think the Repubs are where I got the 26-30% of the Republicans are so die hard Trumpsters they would leave the Republican party to follow him. But hey, you go head with the yea but the Democrats...

 

[blackhawk]

Op link Rawstory or Daily Kook? I have not looked yet but the Kook seems to be their go to site for partisan idiocy. Nope it was Rawstory not as useless as the Kook but they are a close second.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Populism isn't conservatism in any way. Populism is a cult of personality, and in Trump's case, the "personality" is an authoritarian white nationalist.

Trump's Republican Party has no agenda, no plans, and nothing to sell the country but dysfunction, chaos and fiscal incompetence.

Compare the chaos and confusion of Kevin McCarthy's "Seinfeld Congress - a TV show about nothing", to the competence and focus of the Pelosi Congress in 2021-22 - The most productive Congress since FDR. The economic recovery achieved by the Democrats is nothing short of remarkable.

That's what sound governance does.

You have to pass the budget to see what's in it =/= competence and focus

 

[GMCGeneral]

Yea, I am conservative for the most part, I just refuse to join the party of stupid.

This makes you and every other far Left shitbag the enemy of America.

 

[mak2]

This makes you and every other far Left shitbag the enemy of America.

Sure it does. And I think it makes you the problem. A democracy cannot survive if one side or the other thinks they are the only one worthy of being in power.

 

[kyzr]

Populism isn't conservatism in any way. Populism is a cult of personality, and in Trump's case, the "personality" is an authoritarian white nationalist.
Trump's Republican Party has no agenda, no plans, and nothing to sell the country but dysfunction, chaos and fiscal incompetence.
Compare the chaos and confusion of Kevin McCarthy's "Seinfeld Congress - a TV show about nothing", to the competence and focus of the Pelosi Congress in 2021-22 - The most productive Congress since FDR. The economic recovery achieved by the Democrats is nothing short of remarkable.
That's what sound governance does.

1. Populism is a winning policy. Its more than 51% of the voters. It has zero to do with Trump, even though he tapped into it in 2016.
2. There is no Trump GOP. Trump is over.
3. Pelosi made congress more partisan. Now the GOP is shoving partisanship up the democrat's ass. Enjoy it.
4. Trump's economy was better than Biden's
5. Biden's record of failure:
Everything Xiden, aka “poopy pants” touches turns to shit, here's a partial list:

How about showering with his daughter Ashley? How fucked-up is that?
The Brits hold him in CONTEMPT for abandoning AFG
The French pulled their ambassador for abandoning AFG
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.
Xiden sold us out by approving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline giving Putin cash to modernize his military and invade Ukraine, and his “war on energy” keeps fuel costs high. That's why Xiden is "Putin's Whore".
Hope he enjoys the $3,500,000 the Moscow Mayor's wife sent Hunter
Hope he enjoys the $1,500,000,000 that China gave Hunter to "invest"
Open borders is a catastrophe. Trump had it SOLVED. Now its infected migrants & fentanyl sent all over
Runaway inflation would get worse if the dems pass their "BBB" bill. That will be Solyndra on steroids, not to mention the $200,000,000 for Nancy’s park in San Francisco.
Xiden is ruining the US energy sector with his stupid EOs, he wants Russia to pump more oil?? WTF?
Xiden is so dumb he can't even do fake press conferences to answer "ice cream" questions.
Xiden is a gaffe machine, his brain is defective, and he has the nuclear football, WTF???
Xiden surrendered AFG leaving Americans, $billions of equipment, and interpreters to be slaughtered
Xiden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.
China just passed the US out with their new hypersonic missile.
Stupid Joe wants to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 for breaking US immigration LAWS??????
After promising we would have more than enough Covid testing kits, Joe LIED and FAILED.
Xiden killed Israel’s EastMed gas pipeline to sell gas to the EU, Putin’s whore strikes again.
Xiden killed the development of ANWR, but he’s begging Putin to pump more oil???
Xiden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, causing “runaway inflation”.
Xiden is letting RUSSIA negotiate the new IRAN agreement???? WTF!!!!!!
Xiden is giving baby formula to migrants when American babies can’t get formula????
Xiden sold 1m bbls of SPR emergency oil to Sinopec, Hunter’s Chinese oil company, that’s treason.
Xiden is turning the US into a banana republic by misusing the FBI and IRS to harass opponents
Xiden wants 87,000 armed IRS agents willing to KILL!! WTF???
Xiden is illegally forgiving $10,000 of student loan debt
Xiden stole classified documents, did he sell them to anyone? Is he a traitor for cash?
I could go on and on, but you see Trump was at least 1,000,000x better as president than stupid Joe

 

[GMCGeneral]

Sure it does. And I think it makes you the problem. A democracy cannot survive if one side or the other thinks they are the only one worthy of being in power.

No, We are the solution because we are the ONLY arbiters of truth, period! And, we are still not a democracy, dumbass.

 

[mak2]

No, We are the solution because we are the ONLY arbiters of truth, period! And, we are still not a democracy, dumbass.

Oh, are you going to pull out the 5th grade democratic republic thing because I didn't say it right? Bravo. Did someone just teach you that? Hopefully the arbiters of truth will be crushed someday soon, because you are not and it never turns out well when a political party believes that. It takes at least two parties to govern a democracy that have to have some form of respect for each others opinion. If not two more are better, but never one. You are the antithesis of a democratic-republic.

 

[GMCGeneral]

Oh, are you going to pull out the 5th grade democratic republic thing because I didn't say it right? Bravo. Did someone just teach you that? Hopefully the arbiters of truth will be crushed someday soon, because you are not and it never turns out well when a political party believes that. It takes at least two parties to govern a democracy that have to have some form of respect for each others opinion. If not two more are better, but never one. You are the antithesis of a democratic-republic.

You fuckfaced Communists are the ones who pine for a new Soviet Union here in the US. This is why you need to be stopped at all costs!

 

[mak2]

You fuckfaced Communists are the ones who pine for a new Soviet Union here in the US. This is why you need to be stopped at all costs!

You need to take a debate class. Using "You fuckfaced" just makes you look stupid. Or maybe you just are.

 

[Orangecat]

You can tell you've hit a nerve by the ignorance of the responses.

Especially post #7.

 

[Oddball]

Op link Rawstory or Daily Kook? I have not looked yet but the Kook seems to be their go to site for partisan idiocy. Nope it was Rawstory not as useless as the Kook but they are a close second.

Spammer, paid by the click.

 

[GMCGeneral]

You need to take a debate class. Using "You fuckfaced" just makes you look stupid. Or maybe you just are.

This is no longer about debate, this is war. A war for the very soul of MY country. You are not a patriotic American, you are a selfish little socialist scumbag Democrat. You and your ilk are persona non grata in MY country.

 

[mak2]

This is no longer about debate, this is war. A war for the very soul of MY country. You are not a patriotic American, you are a selfish little socialist scumbag Democrat. You and your ilk are persona non grata in MY country.

Take you meds dumbass.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Self-delusion is strong in this one...

hint: "populism" is the new conservatism.

Populism sucks.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

This is no longer about debate, this is war. A war for the very soul of MY country. You are not a patriotic American, you are a selfish little socialist scumbag Democrat. You and your ilk are persona non grata in MY country.

Magaturds are persona non grata in MINE

 

[mak2]

Magaturds are persona non grata in MINE

Yea, but the trumpsters need to become extinct on their own, and they will.

 

[kyzr]

Populism sucks.

why? what country are you from?