Georgia Passes Law Obstructing Obamacare

[Old Rocks]

OK. Universal single payer health care is socialistic. And it works well enough in the other industrial nations that there per capita health care costs are 1/2 to 3/4 of our per capita costs, and they cover all their citizens. Not only that, but their longevity and infant mortality is far better than ours.

So, what you are stating is that our system is better, even though it works far less well than the systems in the other industrial nations. Sorry, I don't think that idealism that fails is better than pragmatism that works.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, according to the information Kaiser has made available, after 1Jan14, were my employment to end, I will be able to afford healthcare for my wife. At present, no way. So where do you think I stand on this issue? And many more people are going to find this out, and the GOP will see people voting for the Dems simply on the fact that they have been lied to by the GOP concerning the ACA.

Hold on here. You actually think you losing your job means your wife is going to get free healthcare? Where the hell do you think you're going to get free healthcare from?

You have a greater chance of losing your job because of obiecare than you do of getting anything for free.

And even if she did get so called "free" healthcare, it's at the expense of someone else, nothing is free. Can't get progressives to understand that money they never see has to come from somewhere.

By 1Jan14, I will be 70, my wife is 60. So, were I to lose my job, I would have SS and a small pension as income. My wife has pre-existing problems. So even getting insurance under the present sytem would be problematical, irregardless of the cost.

Yes, the rest of you will be paying the biggest part of my wife's insurance. She has worked a good part of her life, and I have worked for over 50 years. My dd214 says honorable, and I have a clean record. I, and many others my age, have earned this and more.

 

[ba1614]

OK. Universal single payer health care is socialistic. And it works well enough in the other industrial nations that there per capita health care costs are 1/2 to 3/4 of our per capita costs, and they cover all their citizens. Not only that, but their longevity and infant mortality is far better than ours.

So, what you are stating is that our system is better, even though it works far less well than the systems in the other industrial nations. Sorry, I don't think that idealism that fails is better than pragmatism that works.

In America you can get the treatment, the best treatment i might add, when you need it, not 6months down the road.

Look to Canada for example, they don't have a right to healthcare, they have a right to a waiting list to get healthcare.

 

[Ropey]

All these dumb shits that think they're covered by Obamacare won't be so fucking thrilled when they get a serious disease in their 60's or 70's and are told they don't qualify for treatment.

"Here, take a pain pill and go home and die, treating you is not cost effective".

Now more than ever we need to have our own retirement/health packages and like you said, I also it's going to get worse.