Gideons no longer allowed to pass out bibles at Maxwell AFB

[Nutz]

Loss of tradition, loss of God, loss of morals...

I know, I know...what if a Muslim wants to hand out the Koran or pussies like shootspeeders and matthew want to hand out racist nonsense.

I argue that we are a Christian nation...I know many on the left vehemently disagree. Either way, I'd rather live in a country that respects her Christian roots and practices.


Bible controversy hits Air Force base | Fox News

For more than a decade new military recruits at Maxwell Air Force Base – Gunter Annex in Alabama have received a Bible from Gideons International volunteers. But that tradition has come to an end after volunteers said they were told by the military that they would no longer be allowed to personally distribute the pocket-sized Bibles to recruits.

“They kicked us out,” Gideon’s volunteer Michael Fredenburg told me in a telephone interview from his home in Montgomery, Ala. “They told us, ‘get your Bibles out.’”

Gaylan Johnson, is a public affairs officer for the Military Entrance Processing Command. He told me the Gideons’ side of the story is “not strictly true.”

For years the Gideons had distributed Bibles to new recruits four days a week.

“They can place their literature within our facility, but they are not allowed to stand there and talk with applicants or hand them (the Bibles) out,” he told me.

Fredenburg said his father started the tradition of giving Bibles to new military recruits at the Military Entrance Processing Command center more than 10 years ago. He assumed leadership of the group when his father died last July.

For years the Gideons had distributed Bibles to new recruits four days a week. After they finished their paperwork, the recruits would pass by Gideon volunteers who shook their hands and offered them a pocket-sized Bible.

The Gideon volunteers had military identification cards and had been allowed to store Bibles on the base, Fredenburg said.

“It worked beautifully,” he said.

But that changed last week when Fredenburg said a sergeant informed the Gideons that the Bible distribution program was about to come to a end.

“I tried to get a hold of the colonel but he would not return my call,” he said.

So Fredenburg instructed the volunteers to continue distributing the Bibles until they received official orders. Those orders came on Wednesday. The Gideons would no longer be allowed to give the recruits God’s Word, he said.

“I contacted one of my guys and asked him to get the Bibles out,” he told me. “He went over and got all the Bibles – and we’re out.”

Just like that. The Gideons were never told why.

Johnson said there is a command-wide policy regulating any organization that’s not a member of the federal government. Those organizations are referred to as non-federal entities.

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[Manchester]

Loss of tradition, loss of God, loss of morals...

I know, I know...what if a Muslim wants to hand out the Koran or pussies like shootspeeders and matthew want to hand out racist nonsense.

I argue that we are a Christian nation...I know many on the left vehemently disagree. Either way, I'd rather live in a country that respects her Christian roots and practices.

I disagree entirely about the christian nation bit but as a nation with freedom of religion I don't see why gideons shouldn't hand out bibles just as I don't see why Imams shouldn't hand out Korans, Rabbis shouldn't hand out Torahs or Buddhists hand out whatever it is that Buddhists read.

 

[Nutz]

Loss of tradition, loss of God, loss of morals...

I know, I know...what if a Muslim wants to hand out the Koran or pussies like shootspeeders and matthew want to hand out racist nonsense.

I argue that we are a Christian nation...I know many on the left vehemently disagree. Either way, I'd rather live in a country that respects her Christian roots and practices.

I disagree entirely about the christian nation bit but as a nation with freedom of religion I don't see why gideons shouldn't hand out bibles just as I don't see why Imams shouldn't hand out Korans, Rabbis shouldn't hand out Torahs or Buddhists hand out whatever it is that Buddhists read.

I can appreciate that, nonetheless, why would anyone want to keep a bible away from newly enlisted soldier...a man or woman who is going to put their life on the line. This has been going on for more than a decade...why stop it now.

We are a Christian nation built on Christian principles. Offering a bible to those who are putting themselves in harms way to protect our freedoms is the least we can do. Regretfully, the God haters don't like this.

 

[NLT]

I recieved and pocket bible when I enlisted in the Navy.No body forced you to take it and no body preached at you. This is Obamas Military now, no religion is tolerated, I bet he bans Chaplins next.

 

[JoeB131]

I recieved and pocket bible when I enlisted in the Navy.No body forced you to take it and no body preached at you. This is Obamas Military now, no religion is tolerated, I bet he bans Chaplins next.

Yeah, they totally need to ban these from the military

Okay, serious answer time. the USAF Academy has had a very bad record of letting the religious nuts proselytize on Campus.

So I don't really have a problem with this.

 

[Howey]

I recieved and pocket bible when I enlisted in the Navy.No body forced you to take it and no body preached at you. This is Obamas Military now, no religion is tolerated, I bet he bans Chaplins next.

Yeah, they totally need to ban these from the military

Okay, serious answer time. the USAF Academy has had a very bad record of letting the religious nuts proselytize on Campus.

So I don't really have a problem with this.

When I was in the AF we had some freak leaving those Jesus spam tracts everywhere. When I caught him in the act I was able to enjoy kicking his ass out after the court martial. Poor soul, 14 years in the military down the tubes.

Added. That was in 1982.

Damn you Reagan!

 

[NLT]

I recieved and pocket bible when I enlisted in the Navy.No body forced you to take it and no body preached at you. This is Obamas Military now, no religion is tolerated, I bet he bans Chaplins next.

Yeah, they totally need to ban these from the military

Okay, serious answer time. the USAF Academy has had a very bad record of letting the religious nuts proselytize on Campus.

So I don't really have a problem with this.

When I was in the AF we had some freak leaving those Jesus spam tracts everywhere. When I caught him in the act I was able to enjoy kicking his ass out after the court martial. Poor soul, 14 years in the military down the tubes.

Added. That was in 1982.

Damn you Reagan!

 

[Nutz]

I recieved and pocket bible when I enlisted in the Navy.No body forced you to take it and no body preached at you. This is Obamas Military now, no religion is tolerated, I bet he bans Chaplins next.

Yeah, they totally need to ban these from the military

Okay, serious answer time. the USAF Academy has had a very bad record of letting the religious nuts proselytize on Campus.

So I don't really have a problem with this.

When I was in the AF we had some freak leaving those Jesus spam tracts everywhere. When I caught him in the act I was able to enjoy kicking his ass out after the court martial. Poor soul, 14 years in the military down the tubes.

Added. That was in 1982.

Damn you Reagan!

Absolutely shameful that you take pride in kicking veteran out of the military because of your hate of God.

Pathetic! How do you take pleasure in destroying someone's career who is only guilty of caring for lost souls?

 

[NLT]

Yeah, they totally need to ban these from the military

Okay, serious answer time. the USAF Academy has had a very bad record of letting the religious nuts proselytize on Campus.

So I don't really have a problem with this.

When I was in the AF we had some freak leaving those Jesus spam tracts everywhere. When I caught him in the act I was able to enjoy kicking his ass out after the court martial. Poor soul, 14 years in the military down the tubes.

Added. That was in 1982.

Damn you Reagan!

Absolutely shameful that you take pride in kicking veteran out of the military because of your hate of God.

Pathetic! How do you take pleasure in destroying someone's career who is only guilty of caring for lost souls?

He is lying, you dont get kicked out of the AF for handing out religious tracts, especially in the early 80's. He lies just as bad as bodey does.

 

[Nutz]

When I was in the AF we had some freak leaving those Jesus spam tracts everywhere. When I caught him in the act I was able to enjoy kicking his ass out after the court martial. Poor soul, 14 years in the military down the tubes.

Added. That was in 1982.

Damn you Reagan!

Absolutely shameful that you take pride in kicking veteran out of the military because of your hate of God.

Pathetic! How do you take pleasure in destroying someone's career who is only guilty of caring for lost souls?

He is lying, you dont get kicked out of the AF for handing out religious tracts, especially in the early 80's. He lies just as bad as bodey does.

That wouldn't surprise me.

 

[JoeB131]

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Okay, serious answer time. the USAF Academy has had a very bad record of letting the religious nuts proselytize on Campus.

So I don't really have a problem with this.

When I was in the AF we had some freak leaving those Jesus spam tracts everywhere. When I caught him in the act I was able to enjoy kicking his ass out after the court martial. Poor soul, 14 years in the military down the tubes.

Added. That was in 1982.

Damn you Reagan!

You don't mean "Chick Tracts", do you? Those are some of the greatest sources of unintentional comedy ever.

 

[hjmick]

Well, at least we still have the hotel rooms...