How Trump's 'drill, baby, drill' pledge is affecting other countries

[JGalt]

In a nutshell, other countries are following President Trump's lead in transitioning away from "green energy", and back to oil, gas, and coal.

How Trump's 'drill, baby, drill' pledge is affecting other countries​

The UN climate summit in the United Arab Emirates in 2023 ended with a call to "transition away from fossil fuels". It was applauded as a historic milestone in global climate action.

Barely a year later, however, there are fears that the global commitment may be losing momentum, as the growth of clean energy transition is slowing down while burning of fossil fuels continues to rise.

And now there is US President Donald Trump's "national energy emergency", embracing fossil fuels and ditching clean energy policies – that has also begun to influence some countries and energy companies already.

In response to Trump's "drill, baby, drill" slogan aimed at ramping up fossil fuel extraction, and the US notifying the UN of its withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement, Indonesia, for instance, has hinted that it may follow suit...

...In South Africa, Africa's biggest economy and a major carbon emitter, a $8.5bn foreign-aided transition project from the coal sector was already moving at a snail's pace, and now there are fears that it may get derailed further...

...Argentina withdrew its negotiators from the COP29 climate meeting in Baku last November, days after Trump won the US presidency. It has since followed Trump's lead in signalling it will withdraw from the Paris Agreement of 2015 - which underpins global efforts to combat climate change...

...India and the US have agreed to significantly increase the supply of American oil and gas to the Indian market...

...A few days after Trump's inauguration, South Korea, the world's third largest liquified natural gas importer, has hinted its intention to buy more American oil and gas aimed at reducing a trade surplus with the US and improving energy security, international media have reported from Seoul....

...Officials with Japan's largest power generator, JERA, have told Reuters they too want to increase purchases of liquified natural gas from the US to diversify supply, as it currently imports half of it from the Asia-Pacific region...

How Trump's 'drill, baby, drill' pledge is affecting other countries

 

[egp320i]

sounds good for us but we need more new gen nukes, the great lakes are a great heatsink, plenty of water for cooling and they don't need to worry about any tidal waves so it's fairly safe

 

[toobfreak]

In a nutshell, other countries are following President Trump's lead in transitioning away from "green energy", and back to oil, gas, and coal.

Well sure. Green energy is a losing proposition. Expensive to develop and not capable of meeting our needs. But still worthy of R&D.
The big push to green energy was its biggest setback--- nations invested hugely in it while letting conventional energy they know they can rely on falter, hitting them twice as hard.

Nations need certain, reliable, complete energy sources like coal, oil, gas, hydro, nuclear and even thermal, and at best, few places are that windy all the time and no place is sunny all the time 24 hours a day.

This relegates green energy as a mere supplant. The real future in energy remains cracking the fusion problem.

 

[egp320i]

Well sure. Green energy is a losing proposition. Expensive to develop and not capable of meeting our needs. But still worthy of R&D.
The big push to green energy was its biggest setback--- nations invested hugely in it while letting conventional energy they know they can rely on falter, hitting them twice as hard.

Nations need certain, reliable, complete energy sources like coal, oil, gas, hydro, nuclear and even thermal, and at best, few places are that windy all the time and no place is sunny all the time 24 hours a day.

This relegates green energy as a mere supplant. The real future in energy remains cracking the fusion problem.

they have a working fusion reactor but it's small, they need to find a way to upscale it to be useful.

as for gas when russia cut off their supply to the EU that really prompted them to look outside of the box

France and Germany fired up some nuke plants, probably some coal as well

if your country depends on russia you are screwing yourself

 

[braalian]

Green Energy should obviously still be researched and should obviously be the ultimate goal.

But the mistake was the drive to implement it before it’s tested and viable.

All rushing it into practice has done is shaken public confidence in the whole concept

 

[Robert W]

sounds good for us but we need more new gen nukes, the great lakes are a great heatsink, plenty of water for cooling and they don't need to worry about any tidal waves so it's fairly safe

That works for customers pretty close to the Great Lakes. But not at all for we in Idaho or my former state of CA. Nukes yes of course, but we are not close to the Great Lakes.

 

[toobfreak]

they have a working fusion reactor but it's small, they need to find a way to upscale it to be useful.

Well, they SAY they've sustained a tiny fusion reaction for 15 minutes, which I suppose is grand considering it was three times hotter than the center of the Sun or about 9,000 times hotter than its surface.

But it has to be damned hot to make up for the fact that we can't generate the pressure the Sun is capable of.

 

[toobfreak]

Green Energy should obviously still be researched and should obviously be the ultimate goal.
But the mistake was the drive to implement it before it’s tested and viable.
All rushing it into practice has done is shaken public confidence in the whole concept

Another win for Joe Biden. But solar and wind will never be the great successes they promised because sunlight and wind are only "free" after huge technical cost and investment.

 

[sparky]

'green energy' is an oxymoron......~S~

 

[elektra]

Green energy sucks and always will. A solar panel on your camper is nice. Solar panels can't run a country, they don't help one bit.

 

[egp320i]

That works for customers pretty close to the Great Lakes. But not at all for we in Idaho or my former state of CA. Nukes yes of course, but we are not close to the Great Lakes.

true, transmission line probably can only go so far but ID lacks a good water source and CA certainly
I doubt ID wants a nuke plant right outside of sandpoint

 

[egp320i]

Green energy sucks and always will. A solar panel on your camper is nice. Solar panels can't run a country, they don't help one bit.

right, solar panel to charge you camper of phone sure but when you try to upscale it by taking thousands of acres, that is dumb.
now if people want put them on their homes to cut down on power or even sell it sure
put them on structures that already exist, not across farm land that we kind need for food

 

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[elektra]

That works for customers pretty close to the Great Lakes. But not at all for we in Idaho or my former state of CA. Nukes yes of course, but we are not close to the Great Lakes.

California has the ocean, Idaho has snow and rivers.

The 2nd largest nuclear plant in the USA is in the Arizona desert where there is no water.

Water is not a concern where the electricity is needed

 

[Robert W]

California has the ocean, Idaho has snow and rivers.

The 2nd largest nuclear plant in the USA is in the Arizona desert where there is no water.

Water is not a concern where the electricity is needed

This is your field of expertise. I will check out the nuclear plant in AZ. Do you mean water is no problem for nuclear plants?

 

[Robert W]

true, transmission line probably can only go so far but ID lacks a good water source and CA certainly
I doubt ID wants a nuke plant right outside of sandpoint

From Governor Little:
Nuclear energy is a carbon-free power source. Idaho has no commercial-scale nuclear power generation plants; however, nuclear power has a rich history in Idaho, notably at Idaho National Laboratory (INL), established in 1949. In fact, INL was the site of the first use of nuclear fission to produce a useable quantity of electricity, and in 1955, the Borax III reactor provided electricity to the town of Arco, ID. Although temporary, this was the first time that a nuclear reactor powered an entire US community. INL is part of the U.S. Department of Energy’s complex of 17 national laboratories and is the lead laboratory on integrating nuclear energy research, development, demonstration and deployment.


INL will be the location of NuScale Power LLC’s small modular reactor (SMR) plant that could hold 12 modules and start generating power by 2029. The Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems (UAMPS) will own the plant. The NuScale Power project will help advanced the Carbon Free Power Project (CFPP). The CFPP will be located at INL and is the first NuScale Power SMR plant to begin operation in the United States. The plant will generate 462 megawatts of electricity. [2]

Nuclear

The Idaho Governor’s Office of Energy and Mineral Resources (OEMR) is responsible for coordinating energy and mineral resource planning and policy development for the State. OEMR works with state and federal stakeholders to develop and utilize Idaho’s energy and mineral resources in an...

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[Cellblock2429]

sounds good for us but we need more new gen nukes, the great lakes are a great heatsink, plenty of water for cooling and they don't need to worry about any tidal waves so it's fairly safe

/---/ Moron Gov Andy Cuomo closed our Indian Point Nuke plant when he took office. We lost 25% of our generating power, and it will still take decades to remedy the plant at a cost of $$$$$$$$$$$ we don't have.

 

[elektra]

This is your field of expertise. I will check out the nuclear plant in AZ. Do you mean water is no problem for nuclear plants?

They use waste water, sewage water from the nearby city

 

[martybegan]

Well, they SAY they've sustained a tiny fusion reaction for 15 minutes, which I suppose is grand considering it was three times hotter than the center of the Sun or about 9,000 times hotter than its surface.

But it has to be damned hot to make up for the fact that we can't generate the pressure the Sun is capable of.

Fusion has been 30 years away for the past 40 years.

 

[elektra]

Fusion has been 30 years away for the past 40 years.

I just inspected a part of of the largest Fusion project to date. At 400mwh, it is massive. Supposedly around 2030 it should be operational

MIT spinout Commonwealth Fusion Systems unveils plans for the world’s first fusion power plant

MIT spinout Commonwealth Fusion Systems has announced plans to build the world’s first grid-scale fusion power plant in Chesterfield County, Virginia.

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