How Trump's 'drill, baby, drill' pledge is affecting other countries

[martybegan]

I just inspected a part of of the largest Fusion project to date. At 400mwh, it is massive. Supposedly around 2030 it should be operational

MIT spinout Commonwealth Fusion Systems unveils plans for the world’s first fusion power plant

MIT spinout Commonwealth Fusion Systems has announced plans to build the world’s first grid-scale fusion power plant in Chesterfield County, Virginia.

news.mit.edu

Here's hoping, but the key isn't just to generate the heat, it's to turn it into electricity.

 

[elektra]

Here's hoping, but the key isn't just to generate the heat, it's to turn it into electricity.

We know how to turn heat into electricity. We have done that for over a 100 years

 

[egp320i]

guess I can chime in here, ID could have a plant but it's still pristine and nobody wants a plant around, as for CA yes ocean and the ocean is mostly beaches
they could pipe water in, clean it and then re-use it but at some point evaporation will happen and they would need to add more

most people want clean energy but not in their backyard......same with coal

out of sight, out of mind......

 

[Jarlaxle]

true, transmission line probably can only go so far but ID lacks a good water source and CA certainly
I doubt ID wants a nuke plant right outside of sandpoint

Snake River is the obvious place to start.

California has the ocean, Idaho has snow and rivers.

The 2nd largest nuclear plant in the USA is in the Arizona desert where there is no water.

Water is not a concern where the electricity is needed

Nonsense. You need some sort of coolant for current PWR and BWR designs.

This is your field of expertise. I will check out the nuclear plant in AZ. Do you mean water is no problem for nuclear plants?

No, they need some sort of coolant. Ideally, a river, ocean, or large lake.

 

[Robert W]

Snake River is the obvious place to start.



Nonsense. You need some sort of coolant for current PWR and BWR designs.



No, they need some sort of coolant. Ideally, a river, ocean, or large lake.

They need the ocean?

For this small amount of water?
Nuclear power plants use large amounts of water, typically 270–670 gallons per megawatt-hour (MWh). This can vary depending on the plant's efficiency and location.

 

[elektra]

Snake River is the obvious place to start.



Nonsense. You need some sort of coolant for current PWR and BWR designs.



No, they need some sort of coolant. Ideally, a river, ocean, or large lake.

Water is not a concern where the electricity is needed. That does not state water is not used. Had you read all the comments, you would of had an answer.

 

[Jarlaxle]

They need the ocean?

For this small amount of water?
Nuclear power plants use large amounts of water, typically 270–670 gallons per megawatt-hour (MWh). This can vary depending on the plant's efficiency and location.

Did you not read my post?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Water is not a concern where the electricity is needed. That does not state water is not used. Had you read all the comments, you would of had an answer.

I'm sorry, you're posting nonsense. Water ABSOLUTELY IS a concern, claiming otherwise is not correct.

 

[elektra]

I'm sorry, you're posting nonsense. Water ABSOLUTELY IS a concern, claiming otherwise is not correct.

We have 3 extremely large nuclear power plants in the Arizona desert. Until recently it was the largest nuclear site in the USA. That is the driest place I can think of. Water is not a concern.

 

[Jarlaxle]

We have 3 extremely large nuclear power plants in the Arizona desert. Until recently it was the largest nuclear site in the USA. That is the driest place I can think of. Water is not a concern.

I'm sorry, you're posting nonsense. Water ABSOLUTELY IS a concern, claiming otherwise is not correct. It certainly can be overcome, but without a reliable supply of cooling water, there is no nuclear power plant.

 

[elektra]

I'm sorry, you're posting nonsense. Water ABSOLUTELY IS a concern, claiming otherwise is not correct. It certainly can be overcome, but without a reliable supply of cooling water, there is no nuclear power plant.

There are 3 nuclear power plants in the Arizona desert. Tell us how you can claim there is a problem with water

 

[Jarlaxle]

There are 3 nuclear power plants in the Arizona desert. Tell us how you can claim there is a problem with water

Are you playing stupid?

 

[elektra]

Are you playing stupid?

I asked a question you are stating water is a problem for nuclear power and I am asking how come water is not a problem for the 3 largest nuclear power plants is the world when they are in the middle of the desert

You refuse to acknowledge the question and continue your stupidity.

What is your answer.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I asked a question you are stating water is a problem for nuclear power and I am asking how come water is not a problem for the 3 largest nuclear power plants is the world when they are in the middle of the desert

You refuse to acknowledge the question and continue your stupidity.

What is your answer.

Put down the baseball bat, your straw man is dead. I'll try to use small words: without a reliable source of cooling water, you cannot build a conventional nuclear power plant.

 

[Moonglow]

In a nutshell, other countries are following President Trump's lead in transitioning away from "green energy", and back to oil, gas, and coal.

How Trump's 'drill, baby, drill' pledge is affecting other countries​

The UN climate summit in the United Arab Emirates in 2023 ended with a call to "transition away from fossil fuels". It was applauded as a historic milestone in global climate action.

Barely a year later, however, there are fears that the global commitment may be losing momentum, as the growth of clean energy transition is slowing down while burning of fossil fuels continues to rise.

And now there is US President Donald Trump's "national energy emergency", embracing fossil fuels and ditching clean energy policies – that has also begun to influence some countries and energy companies already.

In response to Trump's "drill, baby, drill" slogan aimed at ramping up fossil fuel extraction, and the US notifying the UN of its withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement, Indonesia, for instance, has hinted that it may follow suit...

...In South Africa, Africa's biggest economy and a major carbon emitter, a $8.5bn foreign-aided transition project from the coal sector was already moving at a snail's pace, and now there are fears that it may get derailed further...

...Argentina withdrew its negotiators from the COP29 climate meeting in Baku last November, days after Trump won the US presidency. It has since followed Trump's lead in signalling it will withdraw from the Paris Agreement of 2015 - which underpins global efforts to combat climate change...

...India and the US have agreed to significantly increase the supply of American oil and gas to the Indian market...

...A few days after Trump's inauguration, South Korea, the world's third largest liquified natural gas importer, has hinted its intention to buy more American oil and gas aimed at reducing a trade surplus with the US and improving energy security, international media have reported from Seoul....

...Officials with Japan's largest power generator, JERA, have told Reuters they too want to increase purchases of liquified natural gas from the US to diversify supply, as it currently imports half of it from the Asia-Pacific region...

How Trump's 'drill, baby, drill' pledge is affecting other countries

Yet production has not increased.

 

[elektra]

Put down the baseball bat, your straw man is dead. I'll try to use small words: without a reliable source of cooling water, you cannot build a conventional nuclear power plant.

It is a legitimate question
How do the three largest nuclear power plants operate in the desert

If you answered the question, you would be agreeing with my original statement

Of course, your reply now does not have anything to do with my original comment. As did none of your replies

 

[Moonglow]

We have 3 extremely large nuclear power plants in the Arizona desert. Until recently it was the largest nuclear site in the USA. That is the driest place I can think of. Water is not a concern.

The plant uses treated wastewater from nearby cities and towns for cooling.

 

[elektra]

The plant uses treated wastewater from nearby cities and towns for cooling.

I know, I worked at all 3 for years

Like I stated, water is not a concern.

Water is a concern for solar power plants

 

[Jarlaxle]

It is a legitimate question
How do the three largest nuclear power plants operate in the desert

If you answered the question, you would be agreeing with my original statement

Of course, your reply now does not have anything to do with my original comment. As did none of your replies

Again, are you playing stupid?