Illegal aliens from china flood florida

[Mac-7]

Aside from national security relevant persons (need permission) - any one else in China is free to travel.

Thats more or less true

China is surprisingly open in some ways

But dont try to sneak too much money with them when they leave

 

[Kruska]

You are using the doctored economic data of a communist dictatorship

The chinese economy is in deep doodoo

Visual Capitalist is a Canadian company
And PPP is the real deal - whilst US$ equated currency stats are factually misleading.

US$ 1000 is around 7300 Rmb

A 2025 Tesla Model 3 - in the USA will cost you around US$ 50,000 - aka 50 month at US$1000 to save.
A 2025 Tesla Model 3 - in China same extras cost's around 270,000 Rmb - aka 37 month at 7300Rmb to save

Price for a carton of eggs in the USA was US$2.51 in December 2023 - and in China US$ 1,54

So how much factual buying power does the US$ aka it's US$ GDP of 27 Trillion in the USA have? compared to China's Rmb (PPP) respectively it's US$ GDP of US$19 Trillion in China?

 

[Kruska]

But dont try to sneak too much money with them when they leave

Annual currency exchange allowance for private Chinese citizens only allow for US$ 8000
If more, or for Chinese business people - special forms and permits are required - e.g. buying a company or property in a foreign country.

For foreigners currency exchange allowance is US$ 50,000 per year.
If more, e.g. selling a property in China - special forms and permits are required, in order to check if taxes have been payed. (Which many foreigners in China have not done). and then experience a bad awakening

 

[Kruska]

55,000 + just at our southern border in 2024.

MAGA bull, trying to highlight a scenario that doesn't exist.

Chinese nationals arriving without authorization at the U.S.-Mexico border jumped to 24,300 in FY 2023 and 38,200 in FY 2024,

Unlike those arriving in the 19th century, post-1965 Chinese immigrants tend to be highly skilled and earn high incomes, with China now ranking as one of the top origin countries for international students and holders of H-1B temporary visas for highly skilled foreign workers. Chinese immigrants also tend to be slightly older than other immigrants and are slightly less likely to be in the labor force.

Chinese Immigrants in the United States

Chinese immigrants comprise the third largest foreign-born group in the United States, although numbers declined slightly following the COVID-19 pandemic's outbreak. Historical arrivals of laborers from China in the 19th century prompted some of the first U.S. immigration restrictions, but...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Chinese legal immigrants to the United States numbered slightly more than 2.4 million as of 2023
So who cares about some 38,200 apprehended illegal PRC citizens at the US-Mexico border in 2024?? - only some China-phobia MAGA.

 

[Unkotare]

That's the law, but not always the reality.

I've seen it with my own two eyes. And, don't forget visa overstays

 

[Unkotare]

I've seen it with my own two eyes. And, don't forget visa overstays

True.

 

[Unkotare]

Most of these CHINESE are NOT from the PRC - and most are not even Chinese but Vietnamese, Cambodians etc. etc.
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And you know this because you've gone there and spoken to them?

 

[Kruska]

And you know this because you've gone there and spoken to them?

Unlike you - I do not base my knowledge and conviction, simply onto Media reports, especially not from one like FOX NEWS

I know a half-dozen or so of Malaysian-Chinese, Indonesian-Chinese and Vietnamese-Chinese citizens that entered the US illegally PERSONALLY - running their business or being employed in Springs-Colorado and Belmont-California

I also know a dozen or so of PRC citizens - that entered the USA legally and invested millions - PERSONALLY

And this posted article stated - believed to be Chinese - you got a confirmation to show for? or what makes you a know it all?
Do YOU - like me, have personal and governmental contacts with embassies of the PRC, in a dozen countries and more?

What according to you have you seen?:
I've seen it with my own two eyes.

And what do PRC travel regulations for PRC citizens have to do with?
And, don't forget visa overstays

 

[Unkotare]

Unlike you - I do not base my knowledge and conviction, simply onto Media reports...

What makes you think I do?

 

[Unkotare]

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I know a half-dozen or so of Malaysian-Chinese, Indonesian-Chinese and Vietnamese-Chinese citizens that entered the US illegally...

And I've known hundreds.

 

[Unkotare]

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I also know a dozen or so of PRC citizens - that entered the USA legally and invested millions - PERSONALLY
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And I've known thousands.

 

[Unkotare]

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What according to you have you seen?:
I've seen it with my own two eyes.
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You said no one can leave China without permission. I said that is the law but not always the reality. I have seen with my own two eyes Chinese citizens leave China without permission.

 

[Unkotare]

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And what do PRC travel regulations for PRC citizens have to do with?
And, don't forget visa overstays

Seems likely the great majority of Chinese citizens in the US illegally are due to visa overstays.

 

[Unkotare]

And you know this because you've gone there and spoken to them?

Well? Have you?

 

[Zincwarrior]

I guess you will like this then.
ICE is starting to go door to door in major apartment complexes.

With ICE agents going door-to-door in Colorado, residents are on edge: Reporter's notebook

ABC News followed federal immigration agents in a Denver door-to-door raid of suspected undocumented immigrants.

abcnews.go.com

But when our team arrived on scene at an apartment complex in southeast Denver Wednesday morning after the early-morning tip, we saw a different scene than what we are being told in public statements from ICE, DEA and similar law enforcement agencies. We watched as dozens of federal agents went door-to-door, questioning residents at every apartment in the massive complex, asking for identification and if they had drugs or guns inside their unit.

One woman gave me her video doorbell camera footage showing two agents, one of them wearing a vest that displayed Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) markings, knock on her door and ask if she had guns or drugs inside the house and if they could "come in and check." The woman answered no to each question before the agent said thank you and left for the next apartment.

The resident told us the agents did not present a warrant or explain why they were there. Several residents with whom we spoke told us that the agents did not skip a single residence in the complex.

 

[Kruska]

You said no one can leave China without permission.

I never said nor posted that - check my answer post #18

I said that is the law but not always the reality.

There is no such law in China for the general public - aside as already mentioned by me, persons who are involved with national security concerns to the PRC or are employed in the PRC's governmental service. Right down to e.g. a Kindergarten teacher.

I have seen with my own two eyes Chinese citizens leave China without permission.

Bullshit: You obviously have never been to China nor are you in any way familiar nor related- involved with the PRC's security apparatus.

THERE IS NO WAY - that a PRC citizen that would require a permission to travel abroad - could avoid detection at Immigration nor Customs in the PRC. Every single e.g. flight-booking with an exit port in the PRC is run through the State Security data banks, upon e.g. a flight confirmation - way before that person would reach e.g. an airport. Every single person employed by the governmnet is listed in the respective Security data-systems.

The only "theoretical" possibility would be for a "listed" PRC citizen to travel to e.g. Russia (with a permission) and then to book a flight from Russia to e.g. a visa free country in e.g. Central America. In which case the PRC authorities might very well take known actions against that persons family-members. (unless that person is a criminal or engaged in subversive activities) who the hell would place his family and relatives in such a position.??

PRC citizens that breached the visa date line in e.g. Germany and dozens of other countries - are reported to the Chinese Embassy. (due to bilateral agreements) and would thus face repercussions in the PRC - see above.

Now go an tell your fantasy stories to those who want to listen to you - and spare me your nonsense claims.

 

[Unkotare]

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There is no such law in China for the general public -...

Yes there is. In fact, people cannot move address within the country without a special permit.

 

[Unkotare]

...You obviously have never been to China ...

I lived there for two years, and I've been working with families there and here for over 30 years.

Next?

 

[Unkotare]

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THERE IS NO WAY - that a PRC citizen that would require a permission to travel abroad - could avoid detection at Immigration nor Customs in the PRC. Every single e.g. flight-booking with an exit port in the PRC is run through the State Security data banks, upon e.g. a flight confirmation - way before that person would reach e.g. an airport. Every single person employed by the governmnet [sic] is listed in the respective Security data-systems.
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Flying is not the only way to leave the country, and not everyone leaves via an immigration or customs port.

You really are dimwitted, aren't you?

 

[Unkotare]

I lived there for two years, and I've been working with families there and here for over 30 years.

Next?

Seems like Kaptain Krunch wants to pretend he has experience, but is in fact talking out his ass.