Individual mandate mutiny grows while Sen. Rubio embraces tyranny!

[johnwk]

See: Rubio Seeks Obama's Support for Delay of Individual Mandate

"Sen. Marco Rubio is urging President Barack Obama to support his bill that would delay Obamacare’s individual mandate until six months after the program’s malfunctioning website is working normally."


What I would like to ask Senator Rubio, a“conservative’, is: Under what provision of our Constitution is Congress authorized to impose a fine upon a citizen who exercises a fundamental right to purchase health insurance to meet their personal medical and health care needs and not “federally approved” health insurance?

Does the Senator from the great State of Florida disagree with what our Supreme Court has stated? That a legislative act which "impinges upon a fundamental right explicitly or implicitly secured by the Constitution is presumptively unconstitutional." See: Harris v. McRae United States Supreme Court (1980) Also see City of Mobile v. Bolden, 466 U.S. 55, 76, 100 S.Ct. 1490, 64 L.Ed.2d 47 (1980)

And if Senator Rubio agrees with the Court, then why does he agree to allow the federal government to circumvent this fundamental right ”… six months after the program’s malfunctioning website is working normally”?

JWK


"The mere chilling of a Constitutional right by a penalty on its exercise is patently unconstitutional." Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618

 

[Katzndogz]

Because stopping or repealing obamacare is beating a dead horse. Everyone knows that. Now it has to be attacked asymetrically by undermining, interfering and delaying.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It is law. America has some.

 

[johnwk]

Because stopping or repealing obamacare is beating a dead horse. Everyone knows that. Now it has to be attacked asymetrically by undermining, interfering and delaying.

Are you suggesting Senator Cruz was "beating a dead horse"? And instead of using phrases which are designed to cover up what you really want to say, why not simply expressed the truth!

Were we not warned about submitting to tyranny? See H0W TO TREAT UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS OF CONGRESS:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted - is the beginning of the end of the nations ruin.”



JWK



If the America People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There are NO OTHER OPTIONS atm. Should Rubio do nothing and watch Americans be penalized?

 

[Katzndogz]

Because stopping or repealing obamacare is beating a dead horse. Everyone knows that. Now it has to be attacked asymetrically by undermining, interfering and delaying.

Are you suggesting Senator Cruz was "beating a dead horse"? And instead of using phrases which are designed to cover up what you really want to say, why not simply expressed the truth!

Were we not warned about submitting to tyranny? See H0W TO TREAT UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTS OF CONGRESS:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted - is the beginning of the end of the nations ruin.”



JWK



If the America People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?

Clearly the American people are not ready to rise up. The nation is divided. If the people who oppose tyranny rise up, the people who promote tyranny will rise up. A civil war IS the way we are headed, there is almost no way to avoid it now. While that is the BEST solution for a country whose inhabitants now consider each other enemies, we aren't quite at the final point yet.

 

[johnwk]

There are NO OTHER OPTIONS atm. Should Rubio do nothing and watch Americans be penalized?

And they will not be penalized six months after the tyrannical web site is fixed?

JWK



"The mere chilling of a Constitutional right by a penalty on its exercise is patently unconstitutional." Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618

 

[bripat9643]

DOM is also law. So is requiring voter ID.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There are NO OTHER OPTIONS atm. Should Rubio do nothing and watch Americans be penalized?

And they will not be penalized six months after the tyrannical web site is fixed?

JWK



"The mere chilling of a Constitutional right by a penalty on its exercise is patently unconstitutional." Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618

Unlikely since it will be so close to midterms that another extension will likely be granted to give Democrats breathing room. Then in another 6 months we would have a shot at defunding it.

Take what you can get and work for the future. Otherwise your plan would be what?

 

[Vox]

Because stopping or repealing obamacare is beating a dead horse. Everyone knows that. Now it has to be attacked asymetrically by undermining, interfering and delaying.

exactly.
there are different ways to kill it.
slowly

 

[johnwk]

Because stopping or repealing obamacare is beating a dead horse. Everyone knows that. Now it has to be attacked asymetrically by undermining, interfering and delaying.

exactly.
there are different ways to kill it.
slowly

And when was the last time that a federal "entitlement" was killed? We have gotten to where we are today by allowing tyranny to be put upon us inch by inch. Why do you ignore history?


"It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted - is the beginning of the end of the nations ruin.”



JWK



If the America People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?

 

[Geaux4it]

It is law. America has some.

Indeed- Like the border fence

Build it

-Geaux

 

[healthmyths]

why isn't this moved to Healthcare/Insurance/Govt Healthcare?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It is law. America has some.

Indeed- Like the border fence

Build it

-Geaux

Indeed, like MANY laws Obama CHOOSES not to enforce.

 

[Geaux4it]

It is law. America has some.

Indeed- Like the border fence

Build it

-Geaux

Indeed, like MANY laws Obama CHOOSES not to enforce.

The law, its the law, can't change the law....

Well Obama, build the friggin fence genius!

-Geaux

 

[johnwk]

SEE: Delaying the individual mandate won’t fix Obamacare


"With more Democrats joining the mandate-delay caucus, President Obama may have no choice but to go along. But such a delay would do nothing to right the Obamacare train wreck. That’s because hundreds of thousands of Americans are getting letters from their insurers informing them that their policies are being canceled because of Obamacare — and the numbers could soon be in the millions. If you are one of those Americans losing your health insurance on Jan. 1, the last thing you are worried about is some $95 fine. You are furious that you and your family no longer have health insurance because of Obamacare."

JWK


"The mere chilling of a Constitutional right by a penalty on its exercise is patently unconstitutional." Shapiro v. Thompson, 394 U.S. 618