Is the Bern not typical of most wealth haters?

Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

It is kind of funny what the Democrats have to vote for.

One extreme, an honest guy who isn't rich because he isn't for sale, but completely out to lunch on what creating a job is.

The other, an incredibly corrupt woman who has gotten incredibly wealthy selling influence....and doesn't have a clue what creating a job is like.

At least they have not knowing how to create jobs in common.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

It is kind of funny what the Democrats have to vote for.

One extreme, an honest guy who isn't rich because he isn't for sale, but completely out to lunch on what creating a job is.

The other, an incredibly corrupt woman who has gotten incredibly wealthy selling influence....and doesn't have a clue what creating a job is like.

At least they have not knowing how to create jobs in common.
That's because jobs are left up to individuals running private business..
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

most people don't hate wealth. they hate the growing disparity between haves and have nots.

and no, most people are not socialist so your basic premise is incorrect.

Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Dear god, this guy fits right in. Accuse Accuse and when that doesn't work accuse some more.

U h8 wealth
No I don't
...Yes you do, u h8 it. HATER!

[/quote]Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?[/QUOTE]

Fool ass thinks wealth disparity has something to do with job titles.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

It is kind of funny what the Democrats have to vote for.

One extreme, an honest guy who isn't rich because he isn't for sale, but completely out to lunch on what creating a job is.

The other, an incredibly corrupt woman who has gotten incredibly wealthy selling influence....and doesn't have a clue what creating a job is like.

At least they have not knowing how to create jobs in common.

to be fair, you wouldn't know what making a job is if it bit you.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

well, i think someone who starts with his daddy's wealth pretty much doesn't gauge how he'll do as president. being president is not like being a CEO.

bizarre.
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

most people don't hate wealth. they hate the growing disparity between haves and have nots.

and no, most people are not socialist so your basic premise is incorrect.

Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

again, no. it has to do with policies that are exacerbating the disparities which while they existed, did not exist to the degree they do now.

but keep making up things and then argue against the things you're making up.
 
It's called work ethic disparity. Get it right. Stop embarrassing yourself.

I know the victim card is easier to play but that nasty old reality keeps raising its ugly head.

There is no such thing as wealth disparity. There are lazy deadbeats and there are hard working professionals.

ok dearie. that's why middle class wages have flatlined for three decades while wealth has become concentrated in the top 0.1%

:cuckoo:
 
It's called work ethic disparity. Get it right. Stop embarrassing yourself.

I know the victim card is easier to play but that nasty old reality keeps raising its ugly head.

There is no such thing as wealth disparity. There are lazy deadbeats and there are hard working professionals.

Not only hard working professionals, but people (unlike Bern) who have never risked any of their own money to take a stab at being wealthy or successful themselves.

At the age of 40 (if you are older than that) think of what you were doing with your life, think of what your goals were and what chances you took. Bernie didn't even start earning a steady income until that age.

And if you are not that age as of yet, think of what your goals are once you get there.
Can wee can assume you didn't make it?
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money


Yeah he wants to go government spending by 40%. Free college tuition, this guy is a dyed in the wool confirmed socialist. He would get creamed in a national election.

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I think he's more concerned with giving unestablished people a chance.

Yes he is, and at what cost, the established people?

The thing about Bernie, he's absolutely sincere in what he believes. The problem there is as you said, he has no context to view those who do produce wealth, products and jobs because simply put he's never done it.

He believes in the theory of what he believes, because he doesn't understand that in practice, it's never worked, because it can't in the US. It wouldn't be long at all until he began to look at nationalizing businesses, in order to control them to try and achieve the ends he believes are worth any cost.

Correct, he is absolutely sincere about what he believes, just like the wealth haters on TV, radio and here on USMB. They are all sincere.

But the question I pose is where does their sincerity come from? It comes from failure on their own part, the belief that money just rained down on certain people and not others--even if they never tried.

Either that, or their desire to wield power over others. Liberals would absolutely LOVE to enslave the producers to work for them.
The conservatives offshored the producers. :(
 
I think he's more concerned with giving unestablished people a chance.

Yes he is, and at what cost, the established people?
I don't know. I thinkit should come from mines and forestry. Theyare the people's resources.

Only if those mines or forests are owned by the government. The vast majority of them are not. Do you propose stealing them and killing the owners?
Only with my CIA produced heart attack gun.
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

most people don't hate wealth. they hate the growing disparity between haves and have nots.

and no, most people are not socialist so your basic premise is incorrect.

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Utilizing the government in some vain attempt to correct what you perceive by raising taxes, like the tax that's not a tax ACA plan, will only make things worse.

*****SMILE*****



:)
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

most people don't hate wealth. they hate the growing disparity between haves and have nots.

and no, most people are not socialist so your basic premise is incorrect.
You mean of course the lazy and NON lazy.
I dont work anymore and im not lazy. I actually like doing stuff. I just happen to want a craftsman job, and obviously for me thats a difficult situation.
 
I think he's more concerned with giving unestablished people a chance.

Yes he is, and at what cost, the established people?

The thing about Bernie, he's absolutely sincere in what he believes. The problem there is as you said, he has no context to view those who do produce wealth, products and jobs because simply put he's never done it.

He believes in the theory of what he believes, because he doesn't understand that in practice, it's never worked, because it can't in the US. It wouldn't be long at all until he began to look at nationalizing businesses, in order to control them to try and achieve the ends he believes are worth any cost.

Correct, he is absolutely sincere about what he believes, just like the wealth haters on TV, radio and here on USMB. They are all sincere.

But the question I pose is where does their sincerity come from? It comes from failure on their own part, the belief that money just rained down on certain people and not others--even if they never tried.

Either that, or their desire to wield power over others. Liberals would absolutely LOVE to enslave the producers to work for them.
The conservatives offshored the producers. :(

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John Kerry's wife owns one of the first corporations to be offshored when those Free Trade acts were sign by Mr Bill Clinton.

*****SMILE*****



:)
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

most people don't hate wealth. they hate the growing disparity between haves and have nots.

and no, most people are not socialist so your basic premise is incorrect.

Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

again, no. it has to do with policies that are exacerbating the disparities which while they existed, did not exist to the degree they do now.

but keep making up things and then argue against the things you're making up.

What policies? There is no policy that could make the gap any larger or smaller or even start the gap in the first place. Government doesn't decide on how much we should make outside messing around with minimum wages.
 
When debating wealth haters, it's always been my contention that they are wealth haters because they've never made a personal investment in their lives. They hate the money the wealthy have less than they hate the perseverance in their personalities that gave them such financial success.

And of course, many on the left who were never even successful working a full-time job feel the same way. They often blame the rich for their demise instead of themselves. These people believe we live in a bubble, and within our bubble, there is only so much money. Therefore, when one has too much, it's the reason others have too little.

That brings us to Bern baby Bern. As it turns out, he never had a steady paycheck until the age of 40, and it was government paychecks at that. While he is totally open about his upbringing in poverty, it seems he never tested private market to try and get a piece of that pie for himself.

Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money

most people don't hate wealth. they hate the growing disparity between haves and have nots.

and no, most people are not socialist so your basic premise is incorrect.

Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

again, no. it has to do with policies that are exacerbating the disparities which while they existed, did not exist to the degree they do now.

but keep making up things and then argue against the things you're making up.

What policies? There is no policy that could make the gap any larger or smaller or even start the gap in the first place. Government doesn't decide on how much we should make outside messing around with minimum wages.


Questions to every business owner on here, or those who work for themselves--------->

1. When starting out on this, your current successful endeavor, how many hours did you put in per week (average) the 1st 2 years?

2. How much income did you get on average per week from your endeavor, the 1st 2 years?

3. How many times (from memory) did you think you might not make it in the 1st 2 years, and consider all the work you had done may not have let you succeed?

4. If you have hired an employee,(s) how many of them did you go through before you found 1 worth keeping?

5. What was the actual cost to YOU to hire an employee.............not their direct compensation mind you............but their compensation PLUS what it cost you in government interference to have you employ them?

Now, I want to go back to question 1 if I may, and make this statement.----->

If it takes this many hours (the hours our posters put in averaged out) then you can theoretically deduct 20% from that number, and that would be compensation for an employee. How do we come to that number? Easy! Most employers will NOT hire an employee unless they get a profit BEFORE taxes from said employees labor, of between 13 and 19%.

Now look at question 2! The owner of that business probably did NOT even get an employees compensation for at least 2 years, lol. And I betcha, most people would say it was longer than that.

Point of this exercise is------------> It takes a special kind of person to do this, never knowing if they will EVER make a ton of money, put their families lives on hold, put their wealth and sweat equity into something that may, or may not succeed, hire people who do not have the intestinal fortitude to do it themselves giving them gainful employment, and the answer from the left when all of it finally pays off is (and the failure rate is much higher than the success rate, which means your spouse is probably going to divorce you)...........to screw them!

In the new America, some how, that is fair! Go figure.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

It is kind of funny what the Democrats have to vote for.

One extreme, an honest guy who isn't rich because he isn't for sale, but completely out to lunch on what creating a job is.

The other, an incredibly corrupt woman who has gotten incredibly wealthy selling influence....and doesn't have a clue what creating a job is like.

At least they have not knowing how to create jobs in common.
That's because jobs are left up to individuals running private business..

Well private industry does create every cent of wealth in this country.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

It is kind of funny what the Democrats have to vote for.

One extreme, an honest guy who isn't rich because he isn't for sale, but completely out to lunch on what creating a job is.

The other, an incredibly corrupt woman who has gotten incredibly wealthy selling influence....and doesn't have a clue what creating a job is like.

At least they have not knowing how to create jobs in common.

to be fair, you wouldn't know what making a job is if it bit you.

The hundreds of buildings I've designed and built, and thousands of people both I, and the people who needed them built will call you a fool. But I'm sure you get that a lot.
 
Sure people hate the wealthy. Many on the left do. It's why they are attacked with such vitriol here and other places.

Wealth disparity? Well if there is this wealth disparity, then somebody or some people have to be in charge, wouldn't you agree? And if so, who are these people?

Many on the left ARE wealthy.

You should do your simple trollposting on a message board where people haven't already seen this sort of nonsense 7 years ago.

How is this trolling?

The truth hurts, doesn't it? The fact that your number two (and number one in some places) contender never invested a dime of his money and is the poorest of Congress really upsets you people. The fact that this loser never earned a steady paycheck until he was well into his middle-age.

He is very typical of wealth haters. Jealous of the actions others have taken that he didn't have the guts to take himself.

It is kind of funny what the Democrats have to vote for.

One extreme, an honest guy who isn't rich because he isn't for sale, but completely out to lunch on what creating a job is.

The other, an incredibly corrupt woman who has gotten incredibly wealthy selling influence....and doesn't have a clue what creating a job is like.

At least they have not knowing how to create jobs in common.

to be fair, you wouldn't know what making a job is if it bit you.

The hundreds of buildings I've designed and built, and thousands of people both I, and the people who needed them built will call you a fool. But I'm sure you get that a lot.

Assuming I believed you, how many of those were gubmint contracts? And how many mortgages were obtained when bush crashed the economy?

And no I don't. Typically only from low IQ low information rightwingnuts.
 

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