CDZ Is the U.S. involved in too many wars?

[Holos]

Americas | United Nations

That's not the United States of America, that seems to be referring to America the Continent.

The United States of America is a Country constituent of America the Continent.

America the Continent is constituted of many nation-states, in similarity to our consideration of the whole planet, each Continent with their Countries abiding by their own legislature and given federal powers (laws).

The UN link is referring both to the Continent and to the Country in its text, both Continent and Country alternatively referred to as "America" in popular, colloquial language.

Also, in common verbatim often both Continent and Country are referred to as "America" when there is a large enough target audience considering multiple avenues of interest.

Just putting this out there, but you seem to use words that you don't understand.

Do you have a suggestion?

Because I could probably tell you the exact same.

Sure, study more English?

Do you have some for me?

 

[GaryDog]

That's not the United States of America, that seems to be referring to America the Continent.

The United States of America is a Country constituent of America the Continent.

America the Continent is constituted of many nation-states, in similarity to our consideration of the whole planet, each Continent with their Countries abiding by their own legislature and given federal powers (laws).

The UN link is referring both to the Continent and to the Country in its text, both Continent and Country alternatively referred to as "America" in popular, colloquial language.

Also, in common verbatim often both Continent and Country are referred to as "America" when there is a large enough target audience considering multiple avenues of interest.

Just putting this out there, but you seem to use words that you don't understand.

Do you have a suggestion?

Because I could probably tell you the exact same.

Sure, study more English?

Do you have some for me?

Do I have some English? Uh, it's my one and only fluent language, so yes.

United States = USA. Period. You seem to be making some distinction there. There isn't any.

There is no "America" continent. There is North America and South America. More generally, however, people refer to the western hemisphere as "The Americas." No one refers to any continent, anywhere, as "USA" or United States. That is the specific name of the nation-state.

 

[Holos]

Americas | United Nations

That's not the United States of America, that seems to be referring to America the Continent.

The United States of America is a Country constituent of America the Continent.

America the Continent is constituted of many nation-states, in similarity to our consideration of the whole planet, each Continent with their Countries abiding by their own legislature and given federal powers (laws).

The UN link is referring both to the Continent and to the Country in its text, both Continent and Country alternatively referred to as "America" in popular, colloquial language.

Also, in common verbatim often both Continent and Country are referred to as "America" when there is a large enough target audience considering multiple avenues of interest.

Just putting this out there, but you seem to use words that you don't understand.

Do you have a suggestion?

Because I could probably tell you the exact same.

Sure, study more English?

Forward me any document.

The shore is a good ward, we are sure about its geographical location.

The study is steady, we continue improving progressively, despite sturdiness.

The moor is more than the marrow of tomorrow, next month we may make a nice 'm'-ale of our bloods, saps and waters.

Do we have more English? Could be physics, could be chemistry, could be biology, could be literature, could be computer science.

I take your suggestion seriously, that is, in series.

 

[Holos]

United States = USA. Period. You seem to be making some distinction there. There isn't any.

It's not me making the distinction, it's the language used in the computer - functional by mechanical and mathematical exactness.

What's your Period for, if you only need a single character? .

There are plenty.

 

[GaryDog]

Are you a Nigerian prince?

 

[Holos]

Why would anyone be involved in wars when any and all benefits can and have been established by cooperation (copper-ratio)? If it was only three fourths of a ward that anyone was interested in, they wouldn't get a single fourth to be where they started.

To strive for 3/4ths when 1 is always 4/4ths is to always have less than a whole 1.

 

[Spare_change]

All they need to do, is conquer the oil wells, fortify the hell out of them and let the rest of the world do what it will.

I'm glad that you agree that the U.S. is involved in too many wars, but how about lessening its dependence on foreign oil instead of 'conquering the oil wells'?

We would do that .... but the Democrats won't let us.

You're saying that Republicans are the doves ?

Where do you propose to get the energy if we don't frack, use coal, or explore government lands?

Hydropower, wind power, solar panels and biomass are the known contenders:
Renewable energy is not enough: it needs to be sustainable

The prospect of Cold Fusion is also making a comeback:
Why do scientists dismiss the possibility of cold fusion? | Aeon Essays

In Cold Fusion 2.0, Who's Scamming Whom? | Popular Mechanics

Congress Is Suddenly Interested in Cold Fusion | Popular Mechanics

What is Cold Fusion? | COLD FUSION NOW!

All of which are either fantasy, prohibitively expensive, or energy inefficient.

You may want to check out the following article...
How America Could Get Rich by Going Green

I suggest you review Donald Trump's energy/economic plan ... it will work.

I have reviewed his economic plan, and so have many others. Here's the Washington Post's take:
Trump’s applause-line economic plan was a disaster

Moody's felt the same way:
Trump’s Economic Plan Would Be a Disaster for the US Economy: Moody’s

NPR critiques his recent economic speech in great detail here, in case you're interested:
FACT CHECK: Donald Trump Unveils His Economic Plan In Major Detroit Speech

Google works, huh? Of course, you didn't bother to ACTUALLY read the articles, did you?

The first one - get rich by going green - laments that China is taking advantage by developing green technology. Gee .. so what? The only country interested in going green is the US, and we've proven that while there is money to be made taking government subsidies, green energy is a losing situation.

Your own article claims that Rutgers U is getting 10% of its energy from 7,000 solar panels. The COST of an installed solar system is about $7-$9 per KW. Rutgers is spending $10.1 million to install the system. Then, they claim, they will realize a $200-300,000 annual savings in energy costs. That means that the system has to operate for 50 years to reach its break even point. Of course, that ignores the fact that the maximum warranty you can get on a solar system is 25 years. By the way, the numbers come from Rutgers own news release. Rutgers University Breaks Ground for Largest Campus Solar Energy Facility in Nation | Media Relations

Cost effective? Hardly.

There are only two groups getting rich on green energy - companies who take advantage of government subsidies (and then declare bankruptcy) and the Chinese who are playing our latest fad.

Now, as for the rest of your "proof" - you offer up an opinion piece from the Washington Post - you know, the paper that was so blatantly biased against Trump that they were kicked out of campaign coverage. Hardly a sterling source - especially when you consider that Rob Garver, the author, is a renowned liberalist and avid Clinton supporter. THAT is the best you can do?

Then, you make a big deal about the NPR fact check on Trump's speech. Of course, you didn't actually read it, because if you had, you would see that, in the main, the concurred with Trump's facts, and even when they disagreed, it was about an opinion or policy, not a statement of 'fact'.

Tsk, tsk ... so amateurish .... so google .... so much a waste of time.

 

[Treeshepherd]

We did the invasion thing. Now we're sustaining the chaos with surrogates and drones.

But the oil isn't worth as much as it was 5 years ago. That market is glutted. Nations like Saudi Arabia and Iraq aren't as important to us economically.

 

[Spare_change]

We did the invasion thing. Now we're sustaining the chaos with surrogates and drones.

But the oil isn't worth as much as it was 5 years ago. That market is glutted. Nations like Saudi Arabia and Iraq aren't as important to us economically.

They are .... as long as the Dems keep preventing domestic oil production. It's only a matter of time before they put the squeeze on us, and we have to jump through our ass trying to gear up domestic production (at a highly inflated and ruinous cost, of course)

 

[Treeshepherd]

We did the invasion thing. Now we're sustaining the chaos with surrogates and drones.

But the oil isn't worth as much as it was 5 years ago. That market is glutted. Nations like Saudi Arabia and Iraq aren't as important to us economically.

They are .... as long as the Dems keep preventing domestic oil production. It's only a matter of time before they put the squeeze on us, and we have to jump through our ass trying to gear up domestic production (at a highly inflated and ruinous cost, of course)

The US is pumping in a range of 8 to 10 million barrels of oil per day. Meanwhile California residents are installing solar at an escalating pace. California businesses like Google and Apple are investing in wind and solar. Cars are more efficient. Homes and businesses are more efficient.

Oil becomes less and less important every day. That's the main reason why the US oil industry has slashed $1 trillion in investment for the years 2015 thru 2020.

Worldwide investment in the development of oil and gas resources from 2015 to 2020 will be 22 percent, or $740 billion, lower than anticipated before prices plunged in 2014

Oil Industry to Cut $1 Trillion in Spending After Price Fall

 

[Spare_change]

We did the invasion thing. Now we're sustaining the chaos with surrogates and drones.

But the oil isn't worth as much as it was 5 years ago. That market is glutted. Nations like Saudi Arabia and Iraq aren't as important to us economically.

They are .... as long as the Dems keep preventing domestic oil production. It's only a matter of time before they put the squeeze on us, and we have to jump through our ass trying to gear up domestic production (at a highly inflated and ruinous cost, of course)

The US is pumping in a range of 8 to 10 million barrels of oil per day. Meanwhile California residents are installing solar at an escalating pace. California businesses like Google and Apple are investing in wind and solar. Cars are more efficient. Homes and businesses are more efficient.

Oil becomes less and less important every day. That's the main reason why the US oil industry has slashed $1 trillion in investment for the years 2015 thru 2020.

Worldwide investment in the development of oil and gas resources from 2015 to 2020 will be 22 percent, or $740 billion, lower than anticipated before prices plunged in 2014

Oil Industry to Cut $1 Trillion in Spending After Price Fall

... and exactly what impact does government subsidies have on the decision to invest in green energy?

We know that it isn't profitable, no model has ever been produced to show that it can be profitable without government subsidy.

It's whistling in the wind (pardon the expression)

 

[Treeshepherd]

We did the invasion thing. Now we're sustaining the chaos with surrogates and drones.

But the oil isn't worth as much as it was 5 years ago. That market is glutted. Nations like Saudi Arabia and Iraq aren't as important to us economically.

They are .... as long as the Dems keep preventing domestic oil production. It's only a matter of time before they put the squeeze on us, and we have to jump through our ass trying to gear up domestic production (at a highly inflated and ruinous cost, of course)

The US is pumping in a range of 8 to 10 million barrels of oil per day. Meanwhile California residents are installing solar at an escalating pace. California businesses like Google and Apple are investing in wind and solar. Cars are more efficient. Homes and businesses are more efficient.

Oil becomes less and less important every day. That's the main reason why the US oil industry has slashed $1 trillion in investment for the years 2015 thru 2020.

Worldwide investment in the development of oil and gas resources from 2015 to 2020 will be 22 percent, or $740 billion, lower than anticipated before prices plunged in 2014

Oil Industry to Cut $1 Trillion in Spending After Price Fall

... and exactly what impact does government subsidies have on the decision to invest in green energy?

We know that it isn't profitable, no model has ever been produced to show that it can be profitable without government subsidy.

It's whistling in the wind (pardon the expression)

Subsidies have been a major factor in the proliferation of solar. The federal tax credit has been extended thru 2019 when it's scheduled to be reduced in stages.

At the same time the US gives farmers fuel subsidies for buying diesel and gas worth $1 billion. The govt buys $1 billion worth of fuel for the strategic petroleum reserve. And we shell out over a half billion for low income people to heat their homes. I've not sure how much we've spent on military strategies to keep foreign oil flowing from places like Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

More to the point of the OP, international subsidies have been estimated at $750 billion to $1 trillion and we import some of that cheap oil. The question is, how long will that persist?

Certainly oil will persist as a backbone of the economy for many years. The price of oil will continue to rise and fall. In the long run, I believe oil will become less of a factor in terms of being the keystone of our military strategy. There's just too much oil flowing out of Canada, Mexico, Central America, South America and Northern Europe (not to mention domestically) to motivate us to go to war over it. And alternatives become cheaper by the day. The price of large-scale solar is now on par with natural gas. The machines that run on petroleum are becoming more and more efficient. You don't see too many Oldsmobiles on the roads these days.

Solar power is on pace for the first time this year to contribute more new electricity to the grid than will any other form of energy—a feat driven more by economics than green mandates.

The cost of electricity from large-scale solar installations now is comparable to and sometimes cheaper than natural gas-fired power, even without incentives aimed at promoting environmentally friendly power, according to industry players and outside cost studies.
-Fortune Magazine

Water is another story and a major source of conflict in the Middle East but we'll probably let them sort that out for themselves as we don't need to import it.

 

[Spare_change]

We did the invasion thing. Now we're sustaining the chaos with surrogates and drones.

But the oil isn't worth as much as it was 5 years ago. That market is glutted. Nations like Saudi Arabia and Iraq aren't as important to us economically.

They are .... as long as the Dems keep preventing domestic oil production. It's only a matter of time before they put the squeeze on us, and we have to jump through our ass trying to gear up domestic production (at a highly inflated and ruinous cost, of course)

The US is pumping in a range of 8 to 10 million barrels of oil per day. Meanwhile California residents are installing solar at an escalating pace. California businesses like Google and Apple are investing in wind and solar. Cars are more efficient. Homes and businesses are more efficient.

Oil becomes less and less important every day. That's the main reason why the US oil industry has slashed $1 trillion in investment for the years 2015 thru 2020.

Worldwide investment in the development of oil and gas resources from 2015 to 2020 will be 22 percent, or $740 billion, lower than anticipated before prices plunged in 2014

Oil Industry to Cut $1 Trillion in Spending After Price Fall

... and exactly what impact does government subsidies have on the decision to invest in green energy?

We know that it isn't profitable, no model has ever been produced to show that it can be profitable without government subsidy.

It's whistling in the wind (pardon the expression)

Subsidies have been a major factor in the proliferation of solar. The federal tax credit has been extended thru 2019 when it's scheduled to be reduced in stages.

At the same time the US gives farmers fuel subsidies for buying diesel and gas worth $1 billion. The govt buys $1 billion worth of fuel for the strategic petroleum reserve. And we shell out over a half billion for low income people to heat their homes. I've not sure how much we've spent on military strategies to keep foreign oil flowing from places like Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

More to the point of the OP, international subsidies have been estimated at $750 billion to $1 trillion and we import some of that cheap oil. The question is, how long will that persist?

Certainly oil will persist as a backbone of the economy for many years. The price of oil will continue to rise and fall. In the long run, I believe oil will become less of a factor in terms of being the keystone of our military strategy. There's just too much oil flowing out of Canada, Mexico, Central America, South America and Northern Europe (not to mention domestically) to motivate us to go to war over it. And alternatives become cheaper by the day. The price of large-scale solar is now on par with natural gas. The machines that run on petroleum are becoming more and more efficient. You don't see too many Oldsmobiles on the roads these days.

Solar power is on pace for the first time this year to contribute more new electricity to the grid than will any other form of energy—a feat driven more by economics than green mandates.

The cost of electricity from large-scale solar installations now is comparable to and sometimes cheaper than natural gas-fired power, even without incentives aimed at promoting environmentally friendly power, according to industry players and outside cost studies.
-Fortune Magazine

Water is another story and a major source of conflict in the Middle East but we'll probably let them sort that out for themselves as we don't need to import it.

So, to summarize, we KNOW that green energy research is a money loser ... we KNOW that implementing green energy is a money loser .... we KNOW that if there weren't government subsidies, neither research nor implementation would be practicable ... we KNOW that, despite all the hoopla surrounding green energy, it is impractical as an energy source ... we KNOW that fossil fuels will be the backbone of our energy use and consumption for the next 100 years ... we KNOW that, despite all this, our current administration has effectively destroyed a domestic energy production industry ... we KNOW that the current president said that the only way to get rid of fossil fuels is to tax them into oblivion ... we KNOW that, while oil production on private lands has increased over the past 8 years (a fact our current administration takes false credit for), our oil production on federal lands has actually been choked off through the illegal regulatory tactics of the EPA.

We KNOW a lot of things ... what we don't known is how to make it fiscally viable.