"Israel" and its brutal family laws!

Okay, so I did a little looking into this woman and her story. Seems she is sad-face that her husband has to pay child support to his three children by his ex-wife and isn't allowed to leave Israel until the court determines the amount and ensures some sort of guarantee that he is not going to become a deadbeat dad. I'm guessing he is in jail now because he tried to leave the country against his No Exit Order.

I've done some looking into these so-called brutal family laws. Most of what she rants about is factually untrue. (Big surprise!)

But Israel does apparently have the highest requirements for child support in the world, with Sweden the next highest. More evil from Israel. How DARE they demand that parents support their children?!

Kinda tough to do from jail.





Not if you have assets, and apparently he has substantial assets.
 
Don't you have any real rebuttal?
Why would anyone feel an obligation to rebut a YouTube video? Apparently, Freeman has unlimited time to spend scouring the web for his cutting and pasting. You obviously missed it but he is never able to defend his cutting and pasting except to cut and paste something unrelated as his his first cut and paste is challenged.... just as his usual pattern of behavior is displayed in this thread.

Why would the poster feel an obligation to respond then? Pavlovian.
Since you have such an interest in Freeman's YouTube videos, your homework assignment is to provide an essay on its merits.

Okay, pumpkin?

You think I both to watch that shyte? Oh you poor thing.



You just want to attack others mfor responding against the attacks on the Jews, isnt that right adolph
 
Okay, so I did a little looking into this woman and her story. Seems she is sad-face that her husband has to pay child support to his three children by his ex-wife and isn't allowed to leave Israel until the court determines the amount and ensures some sort of guarantee that he is not going to become a deadbeat dad. I'm guessing he is in jail now because he tried to leave the country against his No Exit Order.

I've done some looking into these so-called brutal family laws. Most of what she rants about is factually untrue. (Big surprise!)

But Israel does apparently have the highest requirements for child support in the world, with Sweden the next highest. More evil from Israel. How DARE they demand that parents support their children?!

Kinda tough to do from jail.


Well, NOW he has to serve his prison sentence (two years). You know, for breaking the law. That's usually the way it works.

But before that -- he just had to keep his head down and wait. Or make an agreement with his ex.

Well they won't be gettin' nuthin' now will they.





Yes as his assets are frozen, so the greedy bitch is the one who wont be getting any of it
 
The famous No Exit Order. It's like a trap.
Israelis threatened with jail if they try to leave

The brutality of domestic family laws in Israel has taken more lives than armed conflict. But among the living there is still a sense of despair and desperation as people continue to battle with poverty, parental alienation and a system so corrupted by greed it takes one’s breath away.

Where are the headlines? Where is the indignation of a society which doesn’t even blink when another person is found hanging or has jumped from a building, no longer able to cope with a system which must be exposed for what it really is? It is a money making machine.

Below is an interview with an American citizen, Rick Myers of the state of Oregon, who fell foul of Israeli extortion and has suffered every single day for almost eight years. He is not the only one: there are many foreigners with similar stories, and many thousands of Israelis trapped against their will in the country. He is also in my book, which gives a detailed account of the disintegration of one man, one representing many thousands.

[Marianne Azizi] Give us a little bit of background into your situation.

[Rick Myers] From 1996 until January 2000 I worked in Israel as an expatriate managing a construction project for Intel. My company is based out of Portland Oregon. During my time in Israel, I met Ranya and we eventually married in 1998. Our first son, Dean, was born in September 1999 and then we relocated back to the USA for another project in Arizona.

In 2002, we moved back to Portland, Oregon, and later that year Ranya became pregnant with our second son, Adi.

In February 2003 she asked to go back to Israel to be with her family and deliver our son there, and I said OK. Our son was born in July 2003. I flew there several times to be with them and the more I discussed plans on her return, the more she seemed to resist and wanted to stay longer. After two and a half years of this, she simply refused to return even for a visit.

I am convinced this was the plan all along and that she was coached by an attorney. She didn’t seem to care whether I moved back or not, but what was most important was that the support cheques kept coming and I frequently got requests for increases to the point where I could not afford it.

I finally filed for divorce in Israel, as I was told categorically that was where I had to file if I wanted custody rights to my sons. This is what I did and the story turns sideways from there. I did get an Israeli court order that provided me with parental rights to my sons in Israel and America, but that became worthless once her lawyers petitioned a judge to slap me with a No Exit Order.

[Question] What exactly is a No Exit Order?

[Answer] It is a court order preventing someone from leaving Israel. They are easy to obtain but almost impossible to lift. Israeli law is specific with respect to No exit Orders on foreigners. They must not be used on foreigners to secure support but that’s exactly what happened to me and I was stuck in the country for over five weeks and my job in America was in jeopardy.

At this point her lawyers began taunting me and threatening that I would not be allowed to leave Israel unless I agreed to pay whatever amount they demanded, if I ever wanted to get out. At the time, they told my they would accept USD 300,000 lump sum to be paid out immediately and then USD 6,000 per month support until my sons were 18.

They knew I didn’t have the money and also knew my monthly income wouldn’t support these payments, but demanded I get it from my parents who were retired. They even had the balls to suggest my parents sell their Motorhome to get the money!

I had two hearings regarding the No Exit Order and the judge eventually ruled I had to pay a security deposit of USD 100,000 before they would allow me to leave. Not having the money and not being able to support myself in Israel, I found a way out illegally and now cannot go back until I am legally allowed freedom of travel in and out of that country.

An Oregon Judge later ruled that Israel’s treatment of me may have violated my constitutional rights.

[Q] Why didn’t you go to the US Embassy for help at the time?

[A] I did get some help from the US government after I left, but it botched a welfare visit and two embassy officials were arrested. Needless to say, they decided they could no longer help me. They wouldn’t do anything for me when I was trapped as they claimed they couldn’t get involved in “domestic issues”. I have since learned the government travel warnings indicate that, for US citizens travelling to Israel, they are at potential risk of being involuntarily held against their will. Obviously, those warnings absolve the US from helping its own people to be freed.






Most civilised nations have similar laws, and some even jail people if they are thought to run. The UK being one that has remand laws that the courts out in place and send the accused to prison for a set period of time, this period is then taken of their sentence when found guilty. So if you come to the UK dont break any laws as you will lose your passport and end up in prison awaiting trial.
 
I love this kinda nonsense

So Israel has "brutal" family laws.

So whats this about honor killings ??????

Seems to me that the itinerant Arab Muslims in Israel are slaughtering their own children because, oh, say, she wore makeup, or maybe dated a Jewish kid.

So please to explain just how its the Israeli's who have the more "brutal" family laws ;--)

Honor killing is not a law it's not allowed.
 
Marianne Azizi's views of the politics of Israel has altered dramatically since her challenge in Geneva at the UNHRC to try and change a law in Israel. She is a journalist and a campaigner for human rights and specialist in injustice in "israeli" society and family!


Has this Marianne Azizi ever addressed the problem of honor killings of females in the family by "Palestinian" fathers and sons If not, why should she be talking about Israeli family laws?
Upsurge in Palestinian 'honour killings'

Hey cow*boy, try for once to not be offtopic!
 
The famous No Exit Order. It's like a trap.
Israelis threatened with jail if they try to leave

The brutality of domestic family laws in Israel has taken more lives than armed conflict. But among the living there is still a sense of despair and desperation as people continue to battle with poverty, parental alienation and a system so corrupted by greed it takes one’s breath away.

Where are the headlines? Where is the indignation of a society which doesn’t even blink when another person is found hanging or has jumped from a building, no longer able to cope with a system which must be exposed for what it really is? It is a money making machine.

Below is an interview with an American citizen, Rick Myers of the state of Oregon, who fell foul of Israeli extortion and has suffered every single day for almost eight years. He is not the only one: there are many foreigners with similar stories, and many thousands of Israelis trapped against their will in the country. He is also in my book, which gives a detailed account of the disintegration of one man, one representing many thousands.

[Marianne Azizi] Give us a little bit of background into your situation.

[Rick Myers] From 1996 until January 2000 I worked in Israel as an expatriate managing a construction project for Intel. My company is based out of Portland Oregon. During my time in Israel, I met Ranya and we eventually married in 1998. Our first son, Dean, was born in September 1999 and then we relocated back to the USA for another project in Arizona.

In 2002, we moved back to Portland, Oregon, and later that year Ranya became pregnant with our second son, Adi.

In February 2003 she asked to go back to Israel to be with her family and deliver our son there, and I said OK. Our son was born in July 2003. I flew there several times to be with them and the more I discussed plans on her return, the more she seemed to resist and wanted to stay longer. After two and a half years of this, she simply refused to return even for a visit.

I am convinced this was the plan all along and that she was coached by an attorney. She didn’t seem to care whether I moved back or not, but what was most important was that the support cheques kept coming and I frequently got requests for increases to the point where I could not afford it.

I finally filed for divorce in Israel, as I was told categorically that was where I had to file if I wanted custody rights to my sons. This is what I did and the story turns sideways from there. I did get an Israeli court order that provided me with parental rights to my sons in Israel and America, but that became worthless once her lawyers petitioned a judge to slap me with a No Exit Order.

[Question] What exactly is a No Exit Order?

[Answer] It is a court order preventing someone from leaving Israel. They are easy to obtain but almost impossible to lift. Israeli law is specific with respect to No exit Orders on foreigners. They must not be used on foreigners to secure support but that’s exactly what happened to me and I was stuck in the country for over five weeks and my job in America was in jeopardy.

At this point her lawyers began taunting me and threatening that I would not be allowed to leave Israel unless I agreed to pay whatever amount they demanded, if I ever wanted to get out. At the time, they told my they would accept USD 300,000 lump sum to be paid out immediately and then USD 6,000 per month support until my sons were 18.

They knew I didn’t have the money and also knew my monthly income wouldn’t support these payments, but demanded I get it from my parents who were retired. They even had the balls to suggest my parents sell their Motorhome to get the money!

I had two hearings regarding the No Exit Order and the judge eventually ruled I had to pay a security deposit of USD 100,000 before they would allow me to leave. Not having the money and not being able to support myself in Israel, I found a way out illegally and now cannot go back until I am legally allowed freedom of travel in and out of that country.

An Oregon Judge later ruled that Israel’s treatment of me may have violated my constitutional rights.

[Q] Why didn’t you go to the US Embassy for help at the time?

[A] I did get some help from the US government after I left, but it botched a welfare visit and two embassy officials were arrested. Needless to say, they decided they could no longer help me. They wouldn’t do anything for me when I was trapped as they claimed they couldn’t get involved in “domestic issues”. I have since learned the government travel warnings indicate that, for US citizens travelling to Israel, they are at potential risk of being involuntarily held against their will. Obviously, those warnings absolve the US from helping its own people to be freed.

Ahh. You're cutting and pasting from "redress online".

Yes, ladies and gentlemen. There are times when it is appropriate to point and laugh.

most of his sources are laughable, questionable or out right wrong

The poor aris2cake always ready to defend the zionist holy system!

This law is condemned by many NGOs. It's a big scam.

Canadian woman claims she can't leave Israel - The Canadian Jewish News

Conspiracy Planet - Israel/ Zionism - No Exit Orders Make Israel A Concentration Camp
 
How women are stealing men!
False claims in Israeli Family Law destroying the fabric of Society as men suffer human rights abuse

 
Marianne Azizi's views of the politics of Israel has altered dramatically since her challenge in Geneva at the UNHRC to try and change a law in Israel. She is a journalist and a campaigner for human rights and specialist in injustice in "israeli" society and family!


Has this Marianne Azizi ever addressed the problem of honor killings of females in the family by "Palestinian" fathers and sons If not, why should she be talking about Israeli family laws?
Upsurge in Palestinian 'honour killings'

Hey cow*boy, try for once to not be offtopic!


One good turn deserves another. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Since the topic of this Board, in general, is Israeli-Palestinian relations, then injustices in Palestinian families must be explored as well. Take a look at the title of this Board. It's strange that your heart bleeds for Arabs who suffer under Israelis, but not Arabs who suffer under other Arabs, and especially under their own family members.
 
I love this kinda nonsense

So Israel has "brutal" family laws.

So whats this about honor killings ??????

Seems to me that the itinerant Arab Muslims in Israel are slaughtering their own children because, oh, say, she wore makeup, or maybe dated a Jewish kid.

So please to explain just how its the Israeli's who have the more "brutal" family laws ;--)

Honor killing is not a law it's not allowed.





Niether is it punished unless you do it outside of an islamic nation. The first case I heard of in the UK was that of a 3rd generation muslim man who married a 2nd generation muslim woman and when he was sick of her he killed her. His defence was " IN MY OWN COUNTRY I AM ALLOWED TO DO THIS, SHE BROUGHT DISHONOUR ON MY FAMILY "
 
Marianne Azizi's views of the politics of Israel has altered dramatically since her challenge in Geneva at the UNHRC to try and change a law in Israel. She is a journalist and a campaigner for human rights and specialist in injustice in "israeli" society and family!


Has this Marianne Azizi ever addressed the problem of honor killings of females in the family by "Palestinian" fathers and sons If not, why should she be talking about Israeli family laws?
Upsurge in Palestinian 'honour killings'

Hey cow*boy, try for once to not be offtopic!







When will you obey your own rules then ?
 
The famous No Exit Order. It's like a trap.
Israelis threatened with jail if they try to leave

The brutality of domestic family laws in Israel has taken more lives than armed conflict. But among the living there is still a sense of despair and desperation as people continue to battle with poverty, parental alienation and a system so corrupted by greed it takes one’s breath away.

Where are the headlines? Where is the indignation of a society which doesn’t even blink when another person is found hanging or has jumped from a building, no longer able to cope with a system which must be exposed for what it really is? It is a money making machine.

Below is an interview with an American citizen, Rick Myers of the state of Oregon, who fell foul of Israeli extortion and has suffered every single day for almost eight years. He is not the only one: there are many foreigners with similar stories, and many thousands of Israelis trapped against their will in the country. He is also in my book, which gives a detailed account of the disintegration of one man, one representing many thousands.

[Marianne Azizi] Give us a little bit of background into your situation.

[Rick Myers] From 1996 until January 2000 I worked in Israel as an expatriate managing a construction project for Intel. My company is based out of Portland Oregon. During my time in Israel, I met Ranya and we eventually married in 1998. Our first son, Dean, was born in September 1999 and then we relocated back to the USA for another project in Arizona.

In 2002, we moved back to Portland, Oregon, and later that year Ranya became pregnant with our second son, Adi.

In February 2003 she asked to go back to Israel to be with her family and deliver our son there, and I said OK. Our son was born in July 2003. I flew there several times to be with them and the more I discussed plans on her return, the more she seemed to resist and wanted to stay longer. After two and a half years of this, she simply refused to return even for a visit.

I am convinced this was the plan all along and that she was coached by an attorney. She didn’t seem to care whether I moved back or not, but what was most important was that the support cheques kept coming and I frequently got requests for increases to the point where I could not afford it.

I finally filed for divorce in Israel, as I was told categorically that was where I had to file if I wanted custody rights to my sons. This is what I did and the story turns sideways from there. I did get an Israeli court order that provided me with parental rights to my sons in Israel and America, but that became worthless once her lawyers petitioned a judge to slap me with a No Exit Order.

[Question] What exactly is a No Exit Order?

[Answer] It is a court order preventing someone from leaving Israel. They are easy to obtain but almost impossible to lift. Israeli law is specific with respect to No exit Orders on foreigners. They must not be used on foreigners to secure support but that’s exactly what happened to me and I was stuck in the country for over five weeks and my job in America was in jeopardy.

At this point her lawyers began taunting me and threatening that I would not be allowed to leave Israel unless I agreed to pay whatever amount they demanded, if I ever wanted to get out. At the time, they told my they would accept USD 300,000 lump sum to be paid out immediately and then USD 6,000 per month support until my sons were 18.

They knew I didn’t have the money and also knew my monthly income wouldn’t support these payments, but demanded I get it from my parents who were retired. They even had the balls to suggest my parents sell their Motorhome to get the money!

I had two hearings regarding the No Exit Order and the judge eventually ruled I had to pay a security deposit of USD 100,000 before they would allow me to leave. Not having the money and not being able to support myself in Israel, I found a way out illegally and now cannot go back until I am legally allowed freedom of travel in and out of that country.

An Oregon Judge later ruled that Israel’s treatment of me may have violated my constitutional rights.

[Q] Why didn’t you go to the US Embassy for help at the time?

[A] I did get some help from the US government after I left, but it botched a welfare visit and two embassy officials were arrested. Needless to say, they decided they could no longer help me. They wouldn’t do anything for me when I was trapped as they claimed they couldn’t get involved in “domestic issues”. I have since learned the government travel warnings indicate that, for US citizens travelling to Israel, they are at potential risk of being involuntarily held against their will. Obviously, those warnings absolve the US from helping its own people to be freed.

Ahh. You're cutting and pasting from "redress online".

Yes, ladies and gentlemen. There are times when it is appropriate to point and laugh.

most of his sources are laughable, questionable or out right wrong

The poor aris2cake always ready to defend the zionist holy system!

This law is condemned by many NGOs. It's a big scam.

Canadian woman claims she can't leave Israel - The Canadian Jewish News

Conspiracy Planet - Israel/ Zionism - No Exit Orders Make Israel A Concentration Camp






Off topic again freeman ?
 
The famous No Exit Order. It's like a trap.
Israelis threatened with jail if they try to leave

The brutality of domestic family laws in Israel has taken more lives than armed conflict. But among the living there is still a sense of despair and desperation as people continue to battle with poverty, parental alienation and a system so corrupted by greed it takes one’s breath away.

Where are the headlines? Where is the indignation of a society which doesn’t even blink when another person is found hanging or has jumped from a building, no longer able to cope with a system which must be exposed for what it really is? It is a money making machine.

Below is an interview with an American citizen, Rick Myers of the state of Oregon, who fell foul of Israeli extortion and has suffered every single day for almost eight years. He is not the only one: there are many foreigners with similar stories, and many thousands of Israelis trapped against their will in the country. He is also in my book, which gives a detailed account of the disintegration of one man, one representing many thousands.

[Marianne Azizi] Give us a little bit of background into your situation.

[Rick Myers] From 1996 until January 2000 I worked in Israel as an expatriate managing a construction project for Intel. My company is based out of Portland Oregon. During my time in Israel, I met Ranya and we eventually married in 1998. Our first son, Dean, was born in September 1999 and then we relocated back to the USA for another project in Arizona.

In 2002, we moved back to Portland, Oregon, and later that year Ranya became pregnant with our second son, Adi.

In February 2003 she asked to go back to Israel to be with her family and deliver our son there, and I said OK. Our son was born in July 2003. I flew there several times to be with them and the more I discussed plans on her return, the more she seemed to resist and wanted to stay longer. After two and a half years of this, she simply refused to return even for a visit.

I am convinced this was the plan all along and that she was coached by an attorney. She didn’t seem to care whether I moved back or not, but what was most important was that the support cheques kept coming and I frequently got requests for increases to the point where I could not afford it.

I finally filed for divorce in Israel, as I was told categorically that was where I had to file if I wanted custody rights to my sons. This is what I did and the story turns sideways from there. I did get an Israeli court order that provided me with parental rights to my sons in Israel and America, but that became worthless once her lawyers petitioned a judge to slap me with a No Exit Order.

[Question] What exactly is a No Exit Order?

[Answer] It is a court order preventing someone from leaving Israel. They are easy to obtain but almost impossible to lift. Israeli law is specific with respect to No exit Orders on foreigners. They must not be used on foreigners to secure support but that’s exactly what happened to me and I was stuck in the country for over five weeks and my job in America was in jeopardy.

At this point her lawyers began taunting me and threatening that I would not be allowed to leave Israel unless I agreed to pay whatever amount they demanded, if I ever wanted to get out. At the time, they told my they would accept USD 300,000 lump sum to be paid out immediately and then USD 6,000 per month support until my sons were 18.

They knew I didn’t have the money and also knew my monthly income wouldn’t support these payments, but demanded I get it from my parents who were retired. They even had the balls to suggest my parents sell their Motorhome to get the money!

I had two hearings regarding the No Exit Order and the judge eventually ruled I had to pay a security deposit of USD 100,000 before they would allow me to leave. Not having the money and not being able to support myself in Israel, I found a way out illegally and now cannot go back until I am legally allowed freedom of travel in and out of that country.

An Oregon Judge later ruled that Israel’s treatment of me may have violated my constitutional rights.

[Q] Why didn’t you go to the US Embassy for help at the time?

[A] I did get some help from the US government after I left, but it botched a welfare visit and two embassy officials were arrested. Needless to say, they decided they could no longer help me. They wouldn’t do anything for me when I was trapped as they claimed they couldn’t get involved in “domestic issues”. I have since learned the government travel warnings indicate that, for US citizens travelling to Israel, they are at potential risk of being involuntarily held against their will. Obviously, those warnings absolve the US from helping its own people to be freed.

Ahh. You're cutting and pasting from "redress online".

Yes, ladies and gentlemen. There are times when it is appropriate to point and laugh.

most of his sources are laughable, questionable or out right wrong

The poor aris2cake always ready to defend the zionist holy system!

This law is condemned by many NGOs. It's a big scam.

Canadian woman claims she can't leave Israel - The Canadian Jewish News

Conspiracy Planet - Israel/ Zionism - No Exit Orders Make Israel A Concentration Camp

A year ago....
you know Israel is her country of birth?

even her fund site is no longer up.

do you bother to follow up any "defaming" story about Israel or jews?

Do you realize that most airlines will not take a woman in her last two months of pregnancy? Or that anyone can call child services to file a complaint? They have no option, it must be investigated and the parent(s) are minimally on probation for six months.

My daughter when very young got a friction burn from bareback riding inside of her thigh. She was always at the neighbor's with the horse. We took her to the doctor and had to go through the "process". Our second had hearing and speech problems from ear infections, again child services came checking on her regularly till speech therapy helped her catch up with where she should be. She learned to read lips so we did not realize she had trouble hearing when she as a year to 18 months old. My kids had a hereditary formation in their ear and they all had ear infections and had to have tubes more than once. Had nothing to do with abuse or not getting proper health care. This is SOP for any question about why children have an injury or long term problem. Doctors, nurse, schools, day care are obligated to make reports and child services have to check it out. We had no problem about it, but it was a bit strange being a probation for six months, having someone "looking over our shoulder" judging how we cared for our children.

Six months, a year, why should Israel be so different in caring for their children? Many states, you can't take your children to anther state without the spouses permission. Children can be given to grandparents or other family for many reason. Courts step in for the best interest of the child. Sometimes the parent is not the best place for the child to be, at that time.

Not your place to interfere without all the facts and understanding of child services and the laws. You want to judge harsh rules against mothers where they children are concerned? Try muslim countries instead. You are not jewish or Israeli, you don't even try to get all the information or understand the laws there. Why should you judge? You don't care about similar situations in other countries or even in the US.

You did not even know the outcome of Hana's story.

You are just hate mongering, trying to cause trouble based on some unreliable or bias web sites. Shoo fly, go find a spoiled muslim meat to feed on.
 
How women are stealing men!
False claims in Israeli Family Law destroying the fabric of Society as men suffer human rights abuse







And again off topic


We are talking about the family laws, not palestinians persecuted by "israelis"!

Do you find the No Exit law just?






Yes as it stops criminals evading justice, and going to other countries that have no extradition agreements with the person's nation.

So why are you going of topic all the time, is it because your posts are being destroyed with evidence you cant fight against.
 
Kamal Foroughi, 76, has spent the last five years in Iran’s notorious Evin prison
 

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