Israeli blockade of Gaza caused Oct 7th

[gipper]

The whole point of providing sources is so that we can confirm your sources. And of course we aren't going to "like" your sources if they are merely silly opinion pieces or if they don't say what you think they say.

The cut and paste clutter is a pain in the ass. As is pasting the same article over and over and over and over again.

At least is an attempt at conversation, rather than vulgar insults going back and forth for hours. But it would be so much easier to have a conversation if you simply typed your thoughts and then SOURCE with a link.

It’s hard to have a civil conversation with immoral uneducated idiots supporting genocide.

 

[Shusha]

It’s hard to have a civil conversation with immoral uneducated idiots supporting genocide.

It's hard to have a civil conversation with those who rely on falsehoods, demonizing rhetoric, and unique definitions of words.

 

[gipper]

It's hard to have a civil conversation with those who rely on falsehoods, demonizing rhetoric, and unique definitions of words.

That’s exactly it. You fucking immoral idiots can’t even recognize a genocide when it’s right in your fucking face.

You’re nothing but a dupe of the Zionist establishment.

 

[BackAgain]

I thought you cons were supposed to be anti-establishment and anti-deep state, yet you fully support the establishment slaughtering the Palestinians using billions of our dollars…

Another disjointed and illogical post from gimp.

….I guess nobody can ever accuse you of being intelligent.

 

[BackAgain]

If the lunar landscape of Gaza and the extermination of the Palestinians doesn't shock you you are incapable of being shocked.

Your remain an asshole.

What you point to is absurd. Dresden did not look so good after it was firebombed. Hiroshima and Nagasaki don’t look good after atomic bombs got dropped on those cities. It’s an outcome of war.

There a no extermination of Palestinians. That’s just a propaganda lie which scumbags like accept and disseminate.

There are Palestinian victims of war. That is a kind of a byproduct of where Hamas chooses to hide. But shitbags like you, fuckstick, some criticize Hamas for their evil behaviors.

You need to gfy.

 

[BackAgain]

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This is a photo my Dad brought home from Germany after the war, these are the SS Guards at Bergen Belsen i have others that are far worse, my Dads army unit was one of those who entered the Camp in April 1945, so i know what NAZIS are and Zionist thugs are NAZIS.

You are a lowlife scumbag. And you are a propagandist.

Why you Nazis accuse others of being what you are is no mystery. You lie for a living.

GFY.

 

[Shusha]

That’s exactly it. You fucking immoral idiots can’t even recognize a genocide when it’s right in your fucking face.

On the contrary, I am perfectly capable of looking objectively at facts, understanding correct definitions of words, and evaluating source material. I am not easily swayed by empty rhetoric and insults. Quite simply, the war in Gaza lacks the necessary conditions to meet the threshold of genocide. It lacks both intent and action.

 

[BackAgain]

It never fails.....
First, they whine: "...you don't provide sources..."
Then, they whine: " I don't like your sources."

You don't need to be sarcastic and snarky. I usually provide sources but then people complained about "cut-and-paste" clutter.

Go figure...


How's this for starters:

- "New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"

New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance

The New York Times is reporting Israel knew about Hamas attack plans over a year before the Oct. 7 operation, but dismissed them as “aspirational."

apnews.com

EXCERPT "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets.

In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7.

Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack." CONTINUED

Then there this:

- “Israeli army to investigate moving of troops from Gaza border 2 days before Oct. 7 attack”

“Troops moved towards West Bank before Hamas launched surprise attack against Israel”

Israeli army to investigate moving of troops from Gaza border 2 days before Oct. 7 attack

Troops moved towards West Bank before Hamas launched surprise attack against Israel - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

EXCERPT “The Israeli army said Monday that it will investigate the moving of commando troops from the Gaza border towards the West Bank two days before the Palestinian group Hamas launched a surprise attack against Israel on Oct. 7. “ CONTINUED

One of your problems is that you and your ilk have crap like the NY Soimes far too much credit. Newsflash: just because the Slimes reports “x” doesn’t make “x” true.

 

[gipper]

On the contrary, I am perfectly capable of looking objectively at facts, understanding correct definitions of words, and evaluating source material. I am not easily swayed by empty rhetoric and insults. Quite simply, the war in Gaza lacks the necessary conditions to meet the threshold of genocide. It lacks both intent and action.

Lol. Dupe all the way.

Fucking Zionists. If you’re an American, I consider you a traitor.

 

[gipper]

You are a lowlife scumbag. And you are a propagandist.

Why you Nazis accuse others of being what you are is no mystery. You lie for a living.

GFY.

Jesus DumbAgain, could you be any more dumb?

 

[BackAgain]

Are you saying there wasn't"t a 16 year blockade?

Or are you such a dumbass who thinks it has no effect on the residents?

If Canada had the ability to wage war against us, we would of course blockade them too. If it had to last 19 years, so be it.

Are you such a complete moron that you believe a nation is required to forfeit its right of self defense?

 

[BackAgain]

When ethical Jews (1), (2) and most Americans(3) regard the systematic extermination of mainly women and children as a genocide, it's time to put down the Kosher Kool-Aid and smell the coffee. (Sorry about the double metaphors)

During the '73 War, I was in Southern Lebanon living in and around Palestinian refugee camps where I heard the side to the Nakba narrative that is censored by our pro Israel, Western MSM to Western readers who are subjected to only the Israeli narrative.

Over the decades of relentless pro Israel bias and Holocaust exploitation (5) has apparently had the subliminal effect of subtly brainwashing those who are exposed to only one side of the century old Levantine hostilities.

By any measure the indiscriminate bombing of homeless, starving, sick and traumatized refugees can only be called mass murder and the fact that the same land theft and mass murder has been going on for about 100 years can only be called a genocide.

I hope I've provided enough sources to support my point.


(1). “A Textbook Case of Genocide”

“Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?”

A Textbook Case of Genocide

Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

jewishcurrents.org

EXCERPTS “Israel’s campaign to displace Gazans—and potentially expel them altogether into Egypt—is yet another chapter in the Nakba, in which an estimated 750,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes during the 1948 war that led to the creation of the State of Israel. But the assault on Gaza can also be understood in other terms: as a textbook case of genocide unfolding in front of our eyes. I say this as a scholar of genocide, who has spent many years writing about Israeli mass violence against Palestinians. I have written about settler colonialism and Jewish supremacy in Israel, the distortion of the Holocaust to boost the Israeli arms industry, the weaponization of antisemitism accusations to justify Israeli violence against Palestinians, and the racist regime of Israeli apartheid. “

“Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant declared it in no uncertain terms on October 9th: “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.”

Indeed, Israel’s genocidal assault on Gaza is quite explicit, open, and unashamed. Perpetrators of genocide usually do not express their intentions so clearly,

Israel’s goal is to destroy the Palestinians of Gaza. And those of us watching around the world are derelict in our responsibility to prevent them from doing so.” CONTINUED



(2). “Jews Against Genocide statement and action”

Jews Against Genocide statement and action | IJAN

www.ijan.org

EXCERPT “We, Jews Against Genocide, came to Yad Vashem, Israel’s memorial of the genocide committed against Jews, to honor the Palestinian children who are dying in a genocide committed by Jews.

We brought dolls to symbolise the children of Gaza, and tried to bring a glimpse of the horror that Gazan’s face, to Israel’s doorstep. We hope to show Israel, and the world, the absurd reality of using the memory of one genocide to justify another.” CONTINUED



(3). "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"

The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds

Approval for Israel’s attack on Gaza has plummeted by 14 percent since November.

truthout.org

EXCERPT "New polling finds that the majority of the American public now say that they disapprove of Israel’s genocidal siege of Gaza. Approval of the assault has plummeted over the course of a few months as Israel slaughtered at least 33,000 Palestinians and continues its destruction of Gaza with impunity.

According to a Gallup survey conducted last month, 55 percent of Americans say that they disapprove of Israel’s “military action” in Gaza — up from a minority of 45 percent in a November Gallup poll." CONTINUED


(4) “Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

EXCERPT “Mainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ‘us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with,... CONTINUED



(5). "Israel using Holocaust as a cover for Gaza genocide: Holocaust survivor"

"Israel is manipulating the memory of the Holocaust ‘as a justification for perpetrating the same in Gaza as a genocide against Palestinians,’ says Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos"

Israel using Holocaust as a cover for Gaza genocide: Holocaust survivor

Israel is manipulating the memory of the Holocaust ‘as a justification for perpetrating the same in Gaza as a genocide against Palestinians,’ says Holocaust survivor Stephen Kapos - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

EXCERPTS. “- Israel has made clear it wants to ‘obliterate Gaza as a place to live at all’ and is now in ‘the last stages of ethnic cleansing by means of genocide,’ Kapos tells Anadolu

- Israel and its supporters want to ‘conflate being Jewish with support for Israel and Zionism’ but that is ‘a lie and complete untruth,’ says Kapos

"LONDON

"Israel is manipulating the memory of the Holocaust as a cover to carry out the same atrocities in Gaza, according to a Holocaust survivor.

Stephen Kapos, an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor from Budapest, believes there is no doubt that Israel is committing a “genocide” in the Gaza Strip.

“I am here because I protest against the use of the memory of the Holocaust as a cover and as a justification for perpetrating the same in Gaza as a genocide against the Palestinian people,” Kapos, who lost most of his family in the Holocaust, told Anadolu at a recent pro-Palestine rally in London.” CONTINUED

You fail from the outset.

What is happening in Gaza may be horrific but that does not translate into genocide.

Words have meaning.

 

[BackAgain]

Jesus DumbAgain, could you be any more dumb?

I suppose I could be your level of dumb.

But it would require a full lobotomy.

 

[BackAgain]

Lol. Dupe all the way.

Fucking Zionists. If you’re an American, I consider you a traitor.

You’re an asshole. So nobody gives a shit what you “consider.”

 

[Deadstick]

You are a lowlife scumbag. And you are a propagandist.

Why you Nazis accuse others of being what you are is no mystery. You lie for a living.

GFY.

No you are the Nazi it's the only explanation for you supporting Genocide in Gaza, thousands of Palestinians in rape prisons open season on Children 24/7 bombing for 14 months in Gaza settler pogroms in the West bank, now a land grab in Syria, case closed moron you are as much a Nazi as those SS bastards in the photo i posted.

 

[BackAgain]

No you are the Nazi it's the only explanation for you supporting Genocide in Gaza,

I don’t. There is no such “genocide” there, fuckstick.

You remain the Nazi.

 

[Deadstick]

I don’t. There is no such “genocide” there, fuckstick.

You remain the Nazi.

You just proved what i said Nazi no Genocide in Gaza, it's in plain sight for the World to see you disgusting creature.

 

[BackAgain]

You just proved what i said Nazi no Genocide in Gaza, it's in plain sight for the World to see you disgusting creature.

There is no genocide in Gaza.

Words have meaning, you Nazi twat.

 

[Deadstick]

That’s exactly it. You fucking immoral idiots can’t even recognize a genocide when it’s right in your fucking face.

You’re nothing but a dupe of the Zionist establishment.

It's far worse than that, they do recognize it and agree with the murder just like many German Nazi fanatics, never again my arse.

 

[Shusha]

No you are the Nazi it's the only explanation for you supporting Genocide in Gaza, thousands of Palestinians in rape prisons open season on Children 24/7 bombing for 14 months in Gaza settler pogroms in the West bank, now a land grab in Syria, case closed moron you are as much a Nazi as those SS bastards in the photo i posted.

All of this is nonsense rhetoric. "Open season on children" and "rape prisons" and "Nazi" are not reasonable arguments. It's just demonizing language. If it is so obviously a genocide, you shouldn't have to use such language. You should be able to show us the objective truths and facts. But you can't. Because the objective truths and facts are against you. Even Ireland has admitted that it needs to expand the definition of genocide in order to make Israel guilty of it. Which simply proves that Israel's actions don't meet the existing definition.